That is why so many fans clamored for him when he left during the Orange Island saga.
Its a tough argument to say, or imply for that matter, that Brock is washed up. I like Cilan a lot but I, and I wager a lot of other fans, wouldn't mind seeing Brock come back sporadically, after this saga is over, or even both.
That is why so many fans clamored for him when he left during the Orange Island saga.
Its a tough argument to say, or imply for that matter, that Brock is washed up. I like Cilan a lot but I, and I wager a lot of other fans, wouldn't mind seeing Brock come back sporadically, after this saga is over, or even both.
By the end of DP, he had been there for 13 years and over 600 episodes. Obviously people aren't going to like him as much when he's now been around for 600 episodes doing very little in 90% of the eps he was in.
I dunno, Brock was pretty disliked throughout most of DP. In fact I remember when the DP cast was revealed for the first time, a lot of people were actually disappointed that Brock was coming back again. At the time people thought he was going to leave when AG ended. I remember people wondering why the writers would bring him back again, since even back in AG people were starting to grow tired of him. It was only that DP kicked things up to eleven, and alienated him even more among the group.
By the time we got into late AG it became obvious he was starting to get tired, and once we got into DP it literally felt like he had no purpose in the series anymore. Replace him with any other guy who explains battle strategies, like Cilan, Max or even Tracey did, and that was most of Brock's role in DP.
I feel like Brock took a backseat after the Johto Journeys. I remember whenver there was a crisis he would be able to send out 3-4 Pokemon to help out that were still interesting Pokemon that were good at battling such as Forretress, Crobat, Onix, Geodude, Vulpix, etc. He also took charge more often in making plans to save Pokemon and such.
During DP he was more of a cheerleader and a way to incorporate the game rules into the show by describing Pokemon's special abilities and talking about type advantages. When did Ash ever care about type advantages? Brock didn't care nearly as much about them either during the first 2 regions. AG I really fell out of. I don't remember half of what he did because I didn't watch half the series at that point.
The way I see it, towards the end of AG and DP images like this didn't happen nearly enough to justify Brock as a funny character:
http://www.projectbag.com/pokemon/pics/brock02.jpg
Overall, I miss him. But only first and second Gen him since he was a trainer/breeder too. He kinda lost that aspect in AG/DP.
Wouldn't you like to see something more to Brock than a one note gag?
Cilan's quirk with his is that it's extremely versatile, he could be a friggin' Dragon Wrestling Sommelier if the opportunity arose.
Brook adds a much funnier tone to the series, where as im not saying i dont like Cilan, but he isnt as funny.
I think the series with Ash, Brook and Misty in where the best, as these three gave the series its best jokes and gags. Like Mistys bike for example
Brook adds a much funnier tone to the series, where as im not saying i dont like Cilan, but he isnt as funny.
I think the series with Ash, Brook and Misty in where the best, as these three gave the series its best jokes and gags. Like Mistys bike for example
I feel like Brock took a backseat after the Johto Journeys. I remember whenver there was a crisis he would be able to send out 3-4 Pokemon to help out that were still interesting Pokemon that were good at battling such as Forretress, Crobat, Onix, Geodude, Vulpix, etc. He also took charge more often in making plans to save Pokemon and such.
You hardly ever saw Brock use any of his pokemon besides Onix anyway.
Crobat was such a waste of a good pokemon. In all 3 forms it literally did nothing and barely appeared. Vulpix is only used a few times before its given away. Foretress was on Brock's roster throughout the entire span of AG and did next to nothing.
I'd wager to say only Onix, Croagunk and maybe Geodude got good screentime. Sudowoodo/Happiny maybe a bit too.
The original trio was stale in Johto which is why the writers never went back to it in any of the following arcs.
i see no problem with this?
starshapes said:What I usually find is that people who don't like AG or DP didn't watch all that much of it or are too nostalgic about the first seasons, which I absolutely love by the way . Brock had interesting development in DP, for instance, he was matched up to Uxie in the Lake Trio, which, if I'm not mistaken, was the first time he was personally matched up to a legendary Pokemon.
I love it when people don't understand method of substitution.
I see no problem with Cilan talking about food. Yet so many list it as the sole reason to hate him anyway.
You have to admit though that no matter how much Brock did in DP, he was still a stick in comparison to Dawn. The DP trio has always been imbalanced and that's what annoyed me the most about Brock's continued presence on the show.
Well then every trio has been "unbalanced". May and Dawn were Ash's co-stars and Misty and Iris happen to be supporting cast members. That is because the show wanted to broaden its appeal so it made the contest girls co-stars. If I'm not mistaken, the term is right from the Pokemon website.
I don't think Cilan fits into the BW trio, Brock is definately needed. Although I don't know what Pokemon will punch him with poison when he falls in love, cause I don't reckon he'll use his Croagunk. BW needs Brock !!!!
I don't think Cilan fits into the BW trio, Brock is definately needed. Although I don't know what Pokemon will punch him with poison when he falls in love, cause I don't reckon he'll use his Croagunk. BW needs Brock !!!!