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[Donamite Part 4] BW075: Decisive Battle Donamite! Throh vs Sawk!!

Discussion in 'Animé Spoilers' started by slowkingsley, Mar 8, 2012.

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  1. fasola91

    fasola91 B0$$

    I don't think it will be boring, but I think it will definitely be kinda short.
     
  2. Caseydia

    Caseydia Ace Trainer

    People are just mad that Ash didn't face Bel instead of getting beat by somone else. That's all it is. Since day one people were having high doubts of Ash losing her so it's not the fact that Scraggy lost, it's the fact that Bianca lost.
     
  3. Faker500

    Faker500 Trolls aren't funny!

    It shouldn't matter since Scraggy has finally proven itself in a short amount of time. And people say Ash's Pokemon don't get development. Best development is in Best Wishes Baby!
     
  4. wildheart90

    wildheart90 Awesome

    YES!!! this is gonna be the best battle ever! I really hope Throh is voiced and animated as well as Sawk is.

    I am also glad I got most my predictions right except for Bianca/Georgia

    IN FIGHT! IN FIGHT! IN FIGHT!
     
  5. Pepsi_Plunge

    Pepsi_Plunge Dojyaaa~~aan

    If it has the same lenght as Pikachu vs Excadrill that is good enough, Sawk and Troh are pokemon with good durability/endurance/stamina.
     
  6. GalladeRocks

    GalladeRocks Son of a Beach

    Huh. I haven't been this surprised since Ash's Snorunt evolved. Neither Ash or Bianca makes it to the finals? I would never have bet on that in a million years. At least I guessed the final four right :p

    Honestly, I have no idea who to predict to win. Stephan is the recurring rival, but Masaomi seems to be some big powerhouse deal who is blowing everyone else out of the water. I can't possibly guess which one will win, I could see it going either way. But with Bianca losing to Stephan twice now, I think now more than ever that she'll be the one to beat him at the League.
     
  7. fasola91

    fasola91 B0$$

    I'm pretty sure Stephan wins. At the end of the episode that just airs doesn't he wish that he wins?
     
  8. GalladeRocks

    GalladeRocks Son of a Beach

    Not sure. But if that's true, then I'm definitely guessing it will be Stephan.
     
  9. Sapphire Kirby

    Sapphire Kirby Evaluation time!

    I think you mean "The best developement in Best Wishes is the baby." Scraggy and, to an extent, Oshawott are Ash's only Pokemon this saga that are dynamic characters. 2/10 isn't exactly a ratio to be proud of.

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    Anyways, I'm reserving my judgement for Sawk vs Throh until the episode airs. While Iwane is a great animator, he isn't the story writer. An episode can be greatly animated but have a bad plot after all. I hope both Sawk and Throh don't share any moves, as I'm not sure how much I'd like to watch a mirror match. Both Stephan and Masaomi having stratigy would be another plus for me.

    If Masaomi isn't going to appear after the tournament, then I hope Stephan wins. If Masaomi does reappear, then I'm not sure; a tournament is a better way to introduce a future rival/league challenger than the way Tobias was introduced at least.

    No if we only had Watchog man Jimmy Ray...
     
  10. GalladeRocks

    GalladeRocks Son of a Beach

    Krokorok and Snivy have done pretty well in that field as well. I personally believe that Best Wishes has been a horribly disliked saga for all the wrong reasons. If you're going to dislike it, make it be for good reasons . . . like the serious new Team Rocket. Bring back funny Team Rocket, and we've got one of the best sagas . . . then again, I'm a romanticist who loves all of the sagas about equally.
     
  11. Sapphire Kirby

    Sapphire Kirby Evaluation time!

    I guess I'll give you the Krok, but I feel Snivy hasn't really changed much sense the start of the saga (Snivy is a great Pokemon with an excellent personally, though. I'm a fan Snivy). I'm not hating BW for character developement by the way, I'm just saying that it might not be one of the saga's strongest points.

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    On topic: How odd is it that both times Bianca entered Don George sponsered tournaments she loses to Stephan? I wonder if there is a reason for this; maybe she beats him in afuture tournament? Either way, I hope the battle isn't too short. I'd be dissapointed if Bianca got so far only to have her loss skimmed over to make time for the finals (think Jessie vs Dawn at the Grand Festival).
     
  12. AgentPierce

    AgentPierce Mad science FTW!

    Best Wishes is disliked because this fandom actually likes the stagnant, predictable junk that came before it, and hate change of any kind.

    No, serious new Team Rocket is one of the things that makes Best Wishes GOOD.

    You want "funny" Team Rocket? Go back and watch any of the 600 past episodes. In the present, we need something new.
     
    Last edited: Mar 9, 2012
  13. Sapphire Kirby

    Sapphire Kirby Evaluation time!

    Citation please? You are speaking your oppinion as if it were a fact. And why are you generalizing the fandom? Everyone has their own oppinion and treating everyone as a being with a single conciousness is silly. Plus, since you are part of the fandom and like Best Wishes, you already render your own statement false.

    Again, why shout your oppinions as fact? Just because you don't agree doesn't mean his oppinion should be treated as a false lie. I'll stop now, since I'm off topic and can't think of anything that is on topic.
     
  14. G50

    G50 No longer posting

    It seems that they may have to rush a bit either with the Semi-Finals or the final itself. To fit three battles in less than 30 mins is challenging, and maybe 1 of the 3 battles will be very short instead of the length it should be.

    Ash will probably get a lot more focus in the possible 3rd tournament instead, and maybe win that one. It's up in the air as to which trainer wins the final battle, but I wouldn't be shocked if Masaomi wins instead.

    It won't be boring at all, I agree. They will likely showcase Sawk and Throh in a way that everyone will be excited about instead of bored. It will probably be close and come down to only one of them standing back up in the end. (like Blaziken vs Charizard)-like ending to the battle.
     
  15. ShinyCharyZard

    ShinyCharyZard Honesty=Infractions

    So please correct me if I'm wrong, but are these the match-ups then?

    Round 1
    Scraggy vs Simisage
    Simipour vs Simisear
    Pansage vs Gothorita
    Sawk vs Seismitoad
    Bisharp vs Druddigon
    Emboar vs Conkeldurr
    Excadrill vs Dewott
    Throh vs Mienshao

    Round 2
    Scraggy vs Simipour
    Sawk vs Pansage
    Throh vs Excadrill
    Emboar vs Bisharp

    Round 3 - Semi's
    Throh vs Scraggy
    Sawk vs Emboar

    Round 4 - Final
    Throh vs Sawk

    I personally like the way they've set it out to make Stephan look better, but they could've quite nicely put the Sawk vs Throh battle in the semi's or something, then let Scraggy take the win after properly mastering Focus Blast, which it would've struggled with for the last 3 rounds..

    Round 2
    Throh vs Excadrill
    Sawk vs Emboar
    Scraggy vs Simipour
    Bisharp vs Pansage

    Round 3 - Semi's
    Throh vs Sawk
    Scraggy vs Bisharp

    Round 4 - Finals
    Scraggy vs Throh

    That way, Bianca would still show improvement, Stephan would still get his Throh battle, Scraggy would believably beat a Dark/Steel type thanks to its own typing and would then even go on to master a move and take the spot as Donamite Champion, making up for its 53(?) episodes of doing.. well, not much..
     
  16. WaterShuriken

    WaterShuriken Well-Known Member

    Yes that is how it is. Funny how we know how the tourney will go even before it starts.
     
  17. Banana Knight Arthur

    Banana Knight Arthur NEGATIVE MINUS

    That's usually the case.

    We knew the matchups completely last time too, prior to the beginning of the Don Battle.

    At least this will span 4 weeks, unlike the Don Battle, which took 6 weeks(2 weeks break between the first and second, and second and third episodes)
     
  18. G50

    G50 No longer posting

    The 6 weeks long Tournament was definitely a pain... It would've been a bigger pain if it'd happen here that's for sure.

    Knowing the matchups and winners, I wish they wouldn't have done that the 2nd time around; so much has been revealed that there really can't be a surprise occuring, unless Blaze or Guts is activated in the tournament.

    Thanks to Adyniz for these pics -
    http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/attachm...-a78d1aadcbef7609bfda07272edda3cc7dd99e2b.jpg
    http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/attachm...-0f7660fbfbedab647792d378f736afc378311e1b.jpg
     
    Last edited: Mar 9, 2012
  19. Crazed Apple

    Crazed Apple Dondake~!!

    Lolz I'm guessing you missed out on the sinnoh saga
    I like the serious Team Rocket better....but that's just me And thousands of others
    I don't mind this one being shorter. At least all the battles shown are action packed...and there's no one shot battles....
     
  20. G50

    G50 No longer posting

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