HatersGonnaHate
You mad?
It was in pain and struggling. It didn’t have much left. Once Iris spoke to its soul, it completely woke up. It definitely made a difference.
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Dragon Battle! Ash VS Iris!! (1154)
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It was in pain and struggling. It didn’t have much left. Once Iris spoke to its soul, it completely woke up. It definitely made a difference.
ibelinssj
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Clearly we saw different anime. I have watch it 3 times.
ibelinssj
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Not Ash who just stood there? Ash was being courteous, allowing Iris to talk, if it was someone like Paul, he will seize this chance to attack
ibelinssj
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HatersGonnaHate
You mad?
I’ve watched it more. It was willing to keep fighting for Ash but it completely reenergized after what Iris did. I think it was written this way on purpose so it wouldn’t be a clean win for Ash.
HatersGonnaHate
You mad?
Also I do think Iris could have Goodra based on the context.
Drayden saying she’s battled Dragon trainers in various places (showing Clair-confirmed battle we saw) and met Dragon Pokémon (showing Gible-confirmed capture), implying that Goodra being in the same image is the same situation as Gible, another capture.
Of course it’s not 100% confirmation but that’s just my 2 cents on that topic.
Drayden saying she’s battled Dragon trainers in various places (showing Clair-confirmed battle we saw) and met Dragon Pokémon (showing Gible-confirmed capture), implying that Goodra being in the same image is the same situation as Gible, another capture.
Of course it’s not 100% confirmation but that’s just my 2 cents on that topic.
Dynamic_Fusion
HIKARI HYPE
I don't think Iris going easy on Ash is an unpopular opinion here. Most of the people seem to like the Episode and agree with this as well.
ibelinssj
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Here is what I saw:
Dragonite got hit. Haxorus did not fall to confusion. Ash speak to Dragonite. Dragonite get its motivation back, roaring a battle cry, signalling its readiness to fight. Iris got interested because of Dragonite's determination so she want to learn more by talking.
Here is what you saw:
HatersGonnaHate
You mad?
Nope. Ash’s little pep talk didn’t do much for its existing damage but it was willing to keep fighting. It’s demeanor after the Iris talk was completely different. Its eyes opened and it roared to the heavens, much greater than when it roared for Ash. It made a huge difference.
ibelinssj
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When I watch it the first time, I was like: what the heck, Dragonite is on fire ready to strike and she told it to calm down??? Is she trying to sabotage the momentum. Fortunately, Dragonite still retain the fiery spirit after the talk.
Red and Blue
Well-Known Member
Good battle. Though I wish Dracovish vs. Dragonite lasted a bit longer(despite Ice Fang technically being 4x effective)
ibelinssj
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Who knows? I think Dragonite can win without that talk. Dragonite win because Ash come up with briliant strategies that Iris simply cannot counter. Iris do not have any answer for Hurricane counter shield and how Ash had Dragonite turn Haxorus's Dragon Pulse into meteors.
Funny how you think Iris talk can heal physical wound/damage.
HatersGonnaHate
You mad?
I don’t think so. Even Ash changed his demeanor after the Iris talk. Dragonite gave Ash a look which woke him up too. So none of those inspired strategies happen without Iris doing what she did.
satopi
Life doesn’t end, …it changes.
I really enjoyed the battle but Iris’ Dragonite KO’d too quickly and despite my enjoyment, I felt like the battle was rushed. And I loved that Ash’s Dragonite gotten stronger after his talk with Iris and learned Draco Meteor. This battle was also beneficial for Iris to test and perform her natural ability of understanding the hearts of Dragons. She was amazing in that sequence. I also really liked that Shaga is still the Gym Leader of the Opelucid Gym.
It was funny seeing Haxorus’ move used against him in the end (I knew that would happen!
) And both Iris and Ash had a lot of fun during this dragon match. She was very cute and she really sparkled during her appearance. Even in the brief scene when Go tried to catch her. I liked that it wasn’t an exact copy and paste of how she reacted when Ash did the same thing to her yet she was still herself, teasing Ash like a kid that they both are. Like Ash, though she battled her way to the ranks of Champion, she maintained her expressive self and has yet to reach her main goal of becoming Dragon Master and has more to learn.
I really wished this episode was a 2 parter or at least we get 2 episodes of Iris appearing. It’s like they barely explained her journey after her separation from Ash and Dento. Nonetheless, the reunion was pretty emotional. I truly missed Iris.
It was funny seeing Haxorus’ move used against him in the end (I knew that would happen!
) And both Iris and Ash had a lot of fun during this dragon match. She was very cute and she really sparkled during her appearance. Even in the brief scene when Go tried to catch her. I liked that it wasn’t an exact copy and paste of how she reacted when Ash did the same thing to her yet she was still herself, teasing Ash like a kid that they both are. Like Ash, though she battled her way to the ranks of Champion, she maintained her expressive self and has yet to reach her main goal of becoming Dragon Master and has more to learn.I really wished this episode was a 2 parter or at least we get 2 episodes of Iris appearing. It’s like they barely explained her journey after her separation from Ash and Dento. Nonetheless, the reunion was pretty emotional. I truly missed Iris.
ibelinssj
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Lol lol lol
Ash just said: do you talk to Iris? And you claim this as waking him up and changing demeanor?
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Dynamic_Fusion
HIKARI HYPE
This truly felt like the Iris, Tomioka was aiming for in BW. In BW, Tomioka didn't write that much despite being the Series Constructor, but this time it was like "This is the Iris that Mr. Tomioka wanted to aim for." I think it was really a "Episode 145 of BW"...
ibelinssj
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It is so sad that Ash had given Dragonite a talk that restore the fighting spirit and Ash had told Dragonite to prepare to show off their battle technique before it was cut off by Iris's talk. Turn out that battle technique are the 2 briliant strategies to repel Psycho Cut and returning Dragon Pulse.
So this statement is completely false.
This is also completely false:
So this statement is completely false.
It doesn't matter if Iris talk also boost Dragonite further. The fact is Ash is not useless even in that limited situation. Ash has already restore Dragonite's fighting spirit.
This is also completely false:
Ash had told Dragonite to be ready to show their battle technique even before the Iris talk.
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Dynamic_Fusion
HIKARI HYPE
Kazumi Koga (who was an Episode Director of the Anime for BW and also storyboarded a few episodes of the Unova League) who doesn't work on the Anime anymore (He directs the Rent-A-Girlfriend Anime) was commenting on this episode.