Morax
King of heroes
I know
I got flak the other day for saying Ash was the strongest in Alola. Wonder what he thinks of iris?
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Dragon Battle! Ash VS Iris!! (1154)
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I got flak the other day for saying Ash was the strongest in Alola. Wonder what he thinks of iris?
RafaSceptile
Well-Known Member
Well he is, we saw him becoming the strongest in Alola onscreen, and I have no reasons to not believe that Iris could not do it in Unova
ibelinssj
???
I did say it was Alola in SM anime:
They made trial captains from the game to compete in anime conference.
Who said this?The strongest don't always compete therefore iris is not a champion
I remember having this conversation
Drayden literally said Iris is the champion.
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AuraChannelerChris
Easygoing Luxray.
Eh. Things are out of hand there, then.
HatersGonnaHate
You mad?
Imagine it being confirmed in scans, official twitter, and the SHOW and still typing this nonsense.pffft....The strongest don't always compete therefore iris is not a champion
I remember having this conversation
Morax
King of heroes
Imagine falling for sarcasm. I specifically italicized that part to highlight SOMEONE's hypocrisy
Ragnarok4
2024
you need the context bro
HatersGonnaHate
You mad?
I get it ya'll.
Anyways, it's disappointing going from this to the crap next week. This should've been a 2-parter to keep the hype going.
Anyways, it's disappointing going from this to the crap next week. This should've been a 2-parter to keep the hype going.
U.N. Owen
In Brightest Day, In Blackest Night ...
I remember seeing this argument happen during Alola and didn't like it then. It annoyed me, too.pffft....The strongest don't always compete therefore iris is not a champion
I remember having this conversation
Champion isn't some vague goal like Pokemon Master. It's a title which exists within a set of rules. If you meet the criteria within the set of rules, you're champion. I don't care if the strongest didn't compete. If the strongest didn't compete, then they never existed within the rules. It's that simple.
ibelinssj
???
And the confirmation already come from the anime itself which is absolutely more legitimate than the other sources.
Blood Red
【推しの子】
It's honestly weird to see people try and deny stuff that's been confirmed already. Yes, Iris is Champion. Yes, that means she's the strongest trainer in Unova, and one of the best trainers in the world. It was bound to happen eventually anyway, it's happened in the games, plus her goal in the anime was to become a really strong Dragon-type trainer.
Spider-Phoenix
#ChespinGang
To be fair, Alain's case sounds more like he quit after all he's learned from the whole Flare thing.
Plus, he only took the league for a serious battle with Ash anyway, so he probably wouldn't be interested on going further.
Sham
The Guardian of War
People are saying that Haxorus was clearly going to lose once Dragonite learned Draco Meteor and landing it but if we are going by the game logic (which I’m assuming people are basing it off it’s power in the games) wouldn’t the same apply to Dragonite getting hit with Outrage? There is like a 10 point difference in power.
ibelinssj
???
By game logic, Dragonite should have fainted. Ash's Dragonite is OP, I don't know how many IV and EV is on its HP and Def, but definitely far far more than the game limit of 31 and 255.
Almighty Zard
He has returned.
Sadly there are times when the anime can't make it's mind up on the portrayal of certain moves in terms of what a moves true power should be.
for example, Fire Spin despite being a weak move in the games, is apparently capable of restraining a freaking Hyper Beam in the anime, where as Heat Wave, one of the more powerful fire attacks was blocked by Icy Wind, one of the weakest ice type moves.
and in the case of Draco Meteor, it's always been portrayed as a devastating move ever since it was introduced, i mean look at how much destruction Ash's Gible was able to cause with the move in the sinnoh league with it, and that thing is still a first stage mon.
HatersGonnaHate
You mad?
This is subtle development but notice how Iris’ Dragonite didn’t go apeshit after getting trapped in that Fish’s mouth. In the past it would’ve taken matters into its own hands and wrecked sh*t but now it’s fully listening to Iris and won’t do anything until it hear her instructions, and in this case it couldn’t. If it went with its own instincts, it would’ve used ice beam and frozen the fish from the inside.
AuraChannelerChris
Easygoing Luxray.
I think Angrynite could have at least survived longer had it tossed a tantrum while in Dracovish's mouth.
Ragnarok4
2024
Ice Beam wouldn't have strengthened the ice fang?
HatersGonnaHate
You mad?
Well I was thinking it would’ve used it before Ash called for ice fang. Could’ve used Flamethrower on the inside too I guess.
RafaSceptile
Well-Known Member
Flamethrower could just convert the Ice in Water and Dracovish is a Water Type, so maybe it would not be the best idea.