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Dragon Unlimited

ALTOCHARIZARD55

Akatsuki Ruler
my powerful dragon team has returned with a better base

W/O ubers

Dragonair @ shell bell
Modest

Flamethrower
Surf
Thunderbolt
Dragonbreath


Charizard @ shell bell
Rash

Flamethrower
Dragon Claw
EQ
Rock Slide


Aerodactyl @ Leftovers
Adamant

EQ
Double Edge
Rock Slide
Aerial Ace


Kingdra @ shell bell
Mild

Ice Beam
Surf
Dragon Breath
Hyper Beam (emergencies only!)


Flygon @ Leftovers
Mild

EQ
Dragon Claw
Flamethrower
Crunch


Gyarados @ Shell Bell
Adamant

EQ
Body Slam
Dragon Dance
Hydro Pump (someone give me a replacement)



Uber Team

Remove Gayrados and Dragonair and add

Latios @ Soul Dew
Modest

Luster Purge
Dragon Claw
Ice Beam
Calm Mind


Rayquaza @ Leftovers
Modest

Flamethrower
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Dragon claw
 
Leftovers on all except where noted. That takes out a lot of typing.
ALTOCHARIZARD55 said:
my powerful dragon team has returned with a better base

W/O ubers

Dragonair @ shell bell
Modest

Flamethrower
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Dragon Claw

Lonely with DD / EQ / AA / Thunderbolt would be better imo.


Charizard @ shell bell
Lonely

Fire Blast
Belly Drum / Swords Dance
EQ
Aerial Ace


Aerodactyl @ Choice Band
Adamant

EQ
Double Edge
Rock Slide
Aerial Ace


Kingdra @ shell bell
Modest

Ice Beam
Surf
Dragon Breath
Rain Dance

Rain Dance is actually good here since it doubles Spd.


Flygon @ Choice Band
Adamant

EQ
Rock Slide
Return
Steel Wing

All filler no killer


Gyarados @ Shell Bell
Adamant

EQ
Body Slam
Dragon Dance
Thunder Wave / Substitute

Hydro Pump would be ok if you had a better nature; Lonely / Naughty in this case.


Uber Team

Remove Gayrados and Dragonair and add

Latios @ Soul Dew Schweet. No lefties here of course.
Modest

Recover
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Calm Mind


Rayquaza @ Leftovers
Modest

Flamethrower
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Dragon claw

Ok, but DD / AA / RS / EQ with Adamant is better here imo.
Changes noted in bold btw.
 

Frost Nova

The predator awaits.
Screechgon is also an option:

Flygon@lefties
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Screech
- Quick Attack
 

snorlax

Banned
lol

Hydro Pump on Gyara

i love that
 

ALTOCHARIZARD55

Akatsuki Ruler
first, how does steel wing help over rock slide?

Second Dragonair cant use dragon claw, it has no claws

Thunderbolt And ice beam dont really help Latios, and Dragon Claw/ Luster Purge uses its stab ability.

Rain dance on kingdra is a good Idea, I didnt think about that

Charizard cant use any moves that are S/E to water types

Why stop at return on flygon, I can use my Secret Power and do more damage

Rayquaza can be used either way, but I perfer mine because of high pp and power and still have stab. Plus all the type advantages

And yes, EQ is one of the greatest moves in the game, so I do like to use it
 
Second Dragonair cant use dragon claw, it has no claws
My bad, I thought I was seeing "Dragonite". But yeah, just ignore Dragon Claw if you wanna keep Dragonair.
Thunderbolt And ice beam dont really help Latios, and Dragon Claw/ Luster Purge uses its stab ability.
Psychic > Luster Purge is anything then. Matter of fact, Dragon Claw / Thunderbolt covers a lot of stuff. You could go with Psychic / DC if you really wanted, but Steel-types resist you then...which is why I suggested Thunderbolt. (Though sadly Steelix resists that too)
Why stop at return on flygon, I can use my Secret Power and do more damage
I didn't quite understand what you meant by that. Come again?
Rayquaza can be used either way, but I perfer mine because of high pp and power and still have stab. Plus all the type advantages
That is true. I only suggested the physical version in case you wanted a stat-upper.
 

ALTOCHARIZARD55

Akatsuki Ruler
Hmm, I see that. that could deal magor damage
Nvm about SP, return does do more damage

Latios would have trouble with a steelix, and I might use Psychic over LP, but I doubt it 50% chance of lowering SP def

Ice Beam over surf on dragonair would be kinda dumb. Surf covers more (rock/Ground) or steel
 
If I were you, I'd use DD / AA / EQ / Thunderbolt on Dragonite. But ok, you can use Surf on that set you already have, given it already has a cover-all with FlameClaw.

And for the record, Lati@s has problems with Steelix period (exception for HP [Fire]). Of course, we'd all use FlameClaw if it could learn Flamethrower...and I don't see why Lati@s shouldn't be able to learn it.
 

ALTOCHARIZARD55

Akatsuki Ruler
first krug, it isnt ice weak at all, we covered that with charizard/ aerodactyl

Dragonite would wok with that moveset too, but what is thunderbolt for? Is it just a filler?

you're right about lati@s, it should be able to learn flamethrower. Then it could easily sweep anything with calm mind
 

ALTOCHARIZARD55

Akatsuki Ruler
oh, I see that, good Idea.

oops, mixed something up

I also came up with a defensive dragonair/ite

Safegaurd
Light Screen
Reflect
Outrage
 

Frost Nova

The predator awaits.
More like BoltBeam weakness.

^ ^ That's a great set!! You're pro, so you should use it.......to your own risk. Safeguard doesn't block outrage. Stick to ZNtelle's Dragonair.
 

Freakshow

Jibaku
More like BoltBeam weakness.

^ ^ That's a great set!! You're pro, so you should use it.......to your own risk. Safeguard doesn't block outrage. Stick to ZNtelle's Dragonair.

Way to mix sarcasm and realism
Safeguard DOES block Outrage's confusion; I did it a couple of times

Dragonair @ Leftovers
Trait: Shed Skin
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Dragon Dance
- Return
- Ice Beam/Surf/Iron Tail
- Rest/Thunder Wave/Substitute/Iron Tail/Thunder/Thunderbolt/Fire Blast/Flamethrower/Light Screen

Surf should cover Rocks if you're worried; Iron Tail doesn't hurt them much. Surf + Normal move covers everything in short of Shedinja. And Return is really just a sortofsucky physical move because Dragonair doesn't learn much else, and the fact that Dragonair sort of neeeds the extra 17 power boost. (Dragonite is much better). Rest is you feel haxy and that Shed Skin would heal you. Thunder/Thunderbolt hurts Skarmory kinda (still a 3HKO, though), and FT/FB to cover the somewhat nonexistent Forry as well as Skarmory. Light Screen lets you set up on special sweepers. Probably the fullest extent of a physical attacking Dragonair
 
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