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Dragonite. Broekn.

Discussion in 'Older Gens' started by Wire, Nov 14, 2011.

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How broken is dragonite

Poll closed Feb 22, 2012.
  1. He can stay where he is

    85 vote(s)
    79.4%
  2. kind of broken

    17 vote(s)
    15.9%
  3. OMFG BAN HIM

    5 vote(s)
    4.7%
  1. windsong

    windsong WEST SIDE

    You guys are right but for the wrong reasons

    =[
     
  2. Eranu™

    Eranu™ Well-Known Member

    I don't think he's broken.
    If you lay down SR it takes 25%
    He is one of the best though.
     
  3. DeviantMaster

    DeviantMaster Deviant_Fallacy

    lol i gotta admit dnite is dangerous to teams that dont use hazards. but considering his super ice weakness and of course the hazard weakness i dont think he can be considered broken
     
  4. Let me check each part of the uber check-list.

    Uncounterable: Dragonite is outright crippled by Rocks and Ice moves. Not that hard to counter it.

    Incredibly easy to use: Dragonite takes a good player to know when and when not to switch him in, lest he get hit by something he does not like.

    Overly influences the metagame: Dragonite has exerted some influence on the metagame, but not as much as something that was banned, like Blaziken or Excadrill.

    Overall, Dragonite is an excellent Pokémon, but not ban-worthy IMO.
     
  5. Latias_

    Latias_ Passive voice

    Dragonite is obviously broken. It is so broken that even Caterpie fails to take it down, let alone Sunkern.

    Seriously though there's tons of ways you can play around Dragonite.
     
  6. Necro101

    Necro101 Well-Known Member

    How is he broken ther are many pokemon that can get rid of him with stone edge and other moves that I don't feel like naming because he is not broke at all:( Were did you get the idea it was broke?????
     
  7. Psycho Cut

    Psycho Cut Well-Known Member

    Nah he's not broken. Stealth Rocks makes Dragonite a simple matter to kill, and although your opponent can spin them away, you can switch into a ghost, or take advantage of the spin by setting up, or KO'ing their spinner.

    There are many things which KO through multiscale anyway, icicle spear/rock blast +2 Weavile with Ice Shard and a +1 Outrage from Salamance (could be haxorus) are a few things which come to mind.
     
  8. Wire

    Wire Banned

    well. how about the paraphazer. no one has semmed to address that
     
  9. The Parashuffler set is easily handled by again, Stealth Rock, and rather susceptible to Taunt, due to the main attack move being Dragon Tail, which will always go last. It is also reliant on its Thunder Wave, meaning that Pokemon immune to itt can switch in on it with impunity, break its precious Multiscale, and come in with something with a good strong Ice move like Starmie.

    Dragonite isn't really that hard to stop.
     
  10. Serpentine

    Serpentine Pokemon Breeder

    Let me guess... you have a lot of bad experiences with Dragonite.

    I thought Hail+Blizzard took out a lot of Dragons, most dragons since they're usually Flying and even Garchomp as a x4 weakness to Ice. Just use something fast... I dunno what, try rain dance and Swift Swim. Let me know if something can utilize that combo.
     
  11. Farfan

    Farfan

    Pretty much status, steels like heatran, stealth rock, sandstorm, and Cloyster can handle Dragonite.
     
  12. Porgon-XYZ

    Porgon-XYZ Wut are you saying?

    SR, Haxorus, Ice Type Moves, boosted STAB Stone Edge, Sandstorm, Hail, Rampardos(yesh), Mamoswine, Taunt, Cloyster, practically any Strong Super Effective STAB move coming off of a high attack stat, wow, that's alot...

    Dragonite is excellent indeed, but that doesn't mean he's broken.
     
  13. Zachmac

    Zachmac Well-Known Member

    Don't just list one pokemon, that doesn't prove anything. Scarf Primape with Vital Spirit counters Darkrai, so should Darkrai be OU?

    After stealth rock, Dragonite is beaten by most Ice Beams, Most Ice Punches, and Most stone edges. Scarfers often handle a +1 Dragonite well. If it's locked in outrage, Ferrthorn or Forretress can use that to set up spikes. It is walled by heatran completely, unless it's holding EQ(which most don't). It's crippled by all status. Toxic means no Multi Scale. Paralysis means no speed. Burn means no attack.
     
  14. irock245

    irock245 She wants it

    meh scarf terakion can 2hko him with multiuscale up and dragonite can't even ko or outspeed with a dd up. Never will be broken, but could be slightly nominated for ban for the same reason as exadrill: overcentralizing the metagame.
     
  15. Zachmac

    Zachmac Well-Known Member

    It's common, but not that common.
     
  16. Miror

    Miror Seeker of the Blood Staff Member Moderator

    Ok, LO Kyurem's Ice Beam can OHKO lol, and Kyurem is forever alone. Dragonite isn't broken.
     
  17. kaiser soze

    kaiser soze Reading ADWD

    There's also Toxic and Burn, plus Tricking a choice item. The success of the defensive sets tend to be more dependent on how competent its user is, so you might just be facing good players. It's still pretty easy for a bad player to fail with defensive Dnite if their prediction sucks, so it doesn't fill the "so easy a caveman can own with it" that Garchomp, Excadrill (who had the same set 99% of the time bar a 4th move or item choice), Thundurus, and Blaziken had. You also don't need to worry about being outsped, so it's not too hard to find something to kill it. Also Clerics like Chansey/Blissey, Celebi, etc. say hi.
     
  18. Soperman

    Soperman The One and Only

    How is he broken? SR, Starmie, offensive Deoxys-S, even Latios can all One or Two HKO him. There are many more pokemon who can as well, I just don't feel like naming them here. He's good, but not THAT good. You're overreacting about losing to the same pokemon over and over again.
     
  19. zerofield

    zerofield i miss miror

    dragonite isn't broken, just powerful and versatile. he loses to ice, rocks, toxic, WoW, and many other things. if you're really having trouble with dnite, change up your team a bit to make it less dnite weak. if that isn't the issue...

    GET BETTER AT BATTLING
     
  20. irock245

    irock245 She wants it

    ^lol couldn't have said it better myself. He still does casue you to have hazards so you have a surefire way to beat him, considering the versertality he has.
     

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