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Dream World Ability Discussion

As most of you know pokemon have different abilities if they are obtained in the Dream World. Here is a list of all the known alternate abilities on fully evolved pokemon:

Code:
Venusaur - Chlorophyll
Charizard - Solar Power
Blastoise - Rain Dish
Butterfree - Tinted Lens
Beedrill - Sniper
Pidgeot - Pigeon Heart
Raticate - Hustle
Fearow - Sniper
Arbok - Tension
Raichu - Lightningrod
Sandslash - Sand Throw
Nidoqueen - Encourage
[B][U]Nidoking - Encourage[/U][/B]
Clefable - Unaware
[B][U]Ninetails - Drought[/U][/B]
Wigglytuff - Frisk
Vileplume - Effect Spore
Parasect - Damp
Venomoth - Miracle Skin
Dugtrio - Sand Strength
Persian - Tension
Golduck - Swift Swim
Primeape - Competitive Spirit
Arcanine - Heart of Justice
Poliwrath - Swift Swim
Alakazam - Magic Guard
Machamp - Steadfast
Victreebel - Gluttony
Tentacruel - Rain Dish
Golem - Sand Veil
Rapidash - Flame Body
[B][U]Slowbro - Regeneration[/U][/B]
Farfetch'd - Competitive Spirit
Dodrio - Tangled Feet
Dewgong - Ice Body
Muk - Poison Hand
Cloyster - Dustproof
Hypno - Inner Focus
Kingler - Encourage
Electrode - Aftermath
Exeggutor - Harvest
Marowak - Battle Armor
Hitmonlee - Unburden
Hitmonchan - Inner Focus
Kangaskhan - Inner Focus
Seaking - Lightningrod
Starmie - Analyse
Mr.Mime - Technician
Scyther - Steadfast
Jynx - Dry Skin
Pinsir - Overconfidence
Tauros - Encourage
Gyarados - Overconfidence
Lapras - Hydration
[B][U]Ditto - Eccentric[/U][/B]
Vaporeon - Hydration
Jolteon - Quick Feet
Flareon - Guts
Omastar - Breakable Armor
Kabutops - Breakable Armor
Aerodactyl - Tension
Snorlax - Gluttony
Articuno - Snow Cloak
Zapdos - Lightningrod
Moltres - Flame Body
[B][U]Dragonite - Multi-Scale[/U][/B]
Mewtwo - Tension
Meganium - Leaf Guard
Typhlosion - Flash Fire
Feraligatr - Encourage
Furret - Frisk
Noctowl - Tinted Lens
Ledian - Iron Fist
Ariados - Sniper
Crobat - Slip Through
Lanturn - Water Absorb
[B][U]Xatu - Magic Mirror[/U][/B]
Ampharos - Plus
Bellossom - Healing Heart
Azumarill - Herbivore
Sudowoodo - Self-Conscious
[B][U]Politoed - Drizzle[/U][/B]
Jumpluff - Slip Through
Sunflora - Early Bird
Quagsire - Unaware
[B][U]Espeon - Magic Mirror[/U][/B]
Umbreon - Inner Focus
Slowking - Regeneration
Wobbuffet - Telepathy
Girafarig - Herbivore
Forretress - Dustproof
Dunsparce - Self-Conscious
Steelix - Encourage
Granbull - Self-Conscious
Qwilfish - Intimidate
Scizor - Light Metal
Shuckle - Perversity
Heracross - Overconfidence
Ursaring - Tension
Magcargo - Breakable Armor
Corsola - Regeneration
Octillery - Inconsistent
Delibird - Insomnia
Mantine - Water Veil
Skarmory - Breakable Armor
Houndoom - Tension
Kingdra - Damp
Donphan - Sand Veil
Porygon2- Analyse
Stantler - Herbivore
Smeargle - Inconsistent
Hitmontop - Steadfast
Miltank - Herbivore
Blissey - Healing Heart
Raikou - Volt Absorb
Entei - Flash Fire
Suicune - Water Absorb
Tyranitar - Tension
Lugia - Multi-Scale
Ho-oh - Regeneration
Sceptile - Unburden
[B][U]Blaziken - Speed Boost[/U][/B]
Swampert - Damp
Mightyena - Overconfidence
Linoone - Quick Feet
Beautifly - Rivalry
Dustox - Compoundeyes
Ludicolo - Own Tempo
Shiftry - Wicked Theif
Swellow - Scrappy
Pelipper - Rain Dish
Gardevoir - Telepathy
Masquerain - Tension
[B][U]Breloom - Technician[/U][/B]
Ninjask - Slip Through
Exploud - Scrappy
Hariyama - Encourage
Delcatty - Miracle Skin
[B][U]Sableye - Mischievous Heart[/U][/B]
Mawile - Encourage
Aggron - Heavy Metal
Medicham - Telepathy
Manectric - Minus
Volbeat - Mischievous Heart
Illumise - Mischievous Heart
Swalot - Gluttony
Sharpedo - Speed Boost
Wailord - Pressure
Camerupt - Anger Point
Torkoal - Shell Armor
Grumpig - Gluttony
Spinda - Perversity
Cacturne - Water Absorb
Altaria - Cloud Nine
Zangoose - Poison Rampage
Seviper - Slip Through
Whiscash - Hydration
Crawdaunt - Adabtability
Craydily - Storm Drain
Armaldo - Swift Swim
Milotic - Cute Charm
Banette - Cursed Body
Tropius - Harvest
Absol - Heart of Justice
Glalie - Inconsistent
Walrein - Oblivious
Clamperl - Self-Conscious
Huntail - Water Veil
Gorebyss - Hydration
Relicanth - Sturdy
Luvdisc - Hydration
Salamence - Overconfidence
Metagross - Light Metal
Regirock - Sturdy
Regice - Ice Body
Registeel - Light Metal
Torterra - Shell Armor
Infernape - Iron Fist
Empoleon - Competitive Spirit
Staraptor - Reckless
Bibarel - Inconsistent
Kricketune - Technician
Luxray - Guts
Roserade - Technician
Rampardos - Encourage
Bastiodon - Soundproof
Wormadam - Dustproof
Mothim - Tinted Lens
Vespiquen - Tension
Pachirisu - Volt Absorb
Floatzel - Water Veil
Gastrodon - Sand Strength
Ambipom - Skill Link
Drifblim - Heat Rampage
Loppuny - Limber
Honchkrow - Overconfidence
Purugly - Competitive Spirit
Skuntank - Keen Eye
Bronzong - Heavy Metal
Chatot - Pigeon Heart
Spiritomb - Slip Through
Garchomp - Rough Skin
Lucario - Heart of Justice
Hippowdon - Sand Strength
Drapion - Keen Eye
Toxicroak - Poison Hand
Lumineon - Water Veil
Abomasnow - Soundproof
Weavile - Wicked Theif
Magnezone - Analyse
Lickilicky - Cloud Nine
Rhyperior - Reckless
Tangrowth - Regeneration
Electivire - Vital Spirit
Magmortar - Vital Spirit
Togekiss - Super Luck
Yanmega - Frisk
Leafeon - Chlorophyll
Glaceon - Ice Body
Gliscor - Poison Heal
Mamoswine - Thick Fat
Porygon-Z - Analyse
Gallade - Heart of Justice
Probopass - Sand Strength
Froslass - Cursed Body
Dialga - Telepathy
Palkia - Telepathy
Heatran - Flame Body
Giratina - Telepathy
[B][U]Jaroda - Perversity[/U][/B]
Emboar - Reckless
Daikenki - Shell Armor
Miruhoggu - Analyse
Muurando - Scrappy
Leperasudu - Mischievous Heart
Yanakki - Overgrow
Baokki - Blaze
Hiyakki - Torrent
Musharna - Telepathy
Kenhorou - Rivalry
Zeburaika - Herbivore
Gigaiasu - Sand Strength
Kokoromori - Simple
Doryuuzu - Mold Breaker
Tabunne - Klutz
[B][U]Roopushin - Iron Fist[/U][/B]
Gamageroge - Water Absorb
Nageki - Mold Breaker
Dageki - Mold Breaker
Hahakurimo - Dustproof
Pendoraa - Quick Feet
Erufuun - Chlorophyll
Doreida - Leaf Guard
Basurao - Mold Breaker
Warubiaru - Anger Point
Hihidaruma - Daruma Mode
Marakacchi - Storm Drain
Iwaparesu - Breakable Armor
Zuruzukin - Intimidate
Shinpora - Tinted Lens
Abagoora - Swift Swim
Dasutodasu - Aftermath
[B][U]Chirachiino - Skill Link[/U][/B]
[B][U]Gochiruzeru - Shadow Tag[/U][/B]
Rankurusu - Regeneration
Swanna - Hydration
Baibanira - Breakable Armor
Mebukijika - Serene Grace
Emonga - Motor Drive
Shubarugo - Dustproof
Morobareru - Regeneration
Burunkeru - Damp
Mamanbou - Regeneration
Denchura - Swarm
Gigigear - Clear Body
Oobema - Analyse
[B][U]Shanderaa - Shadow Tag[/U][/B]
Ononokusu - Tension
Tsunbeaa - Swift Swim
Agirudaa - Unburden
Maggyo - Sand Veil
Kojondo - Reckless
Kurimugan - Mold Breaker
Goruggo - No Guard
Kirikizan - Pressure
Baffuron - Soundproof
Wargle - Competitive Spirit
Barujiina - Breakable Armor
Kuitaran - White Smoke
Aianto - Traunt (lol)
Urugamosu - Swarm
Torunerosu - Competitive Spirit
Borutorosu - Competitive Spirit
Randorosu - Encourage

I will edit in other abilities when they are found out. Let me know if there are mistakes. Also I will underline the ones I feel will be most gamebreaking, and if there any more you think should be underlined then explain why. As of right now very few are underlined, (the most obvious ones.)

Discuss...
 

randomspot555

Well-Known Member
Let us all welcome Politoed to OU.

Blaziken steps out of Infernape's shadow with Speed Boost.

It unfortunately doesn't help much with Staraptor. He'll get a bit more power with Brave Bird and Double Edge, but that's it.

Luxray with GUTS sounds great, and also is supposed to be getting a recoil physical electric move as well.

I'm just concerned that, for the cart players, Dream World Pokemon will be very difficult to get. I can only imagine what type of hurdles they'll make people go through to get some of the Legendary Pokemon on this list.
 
Honestly Politoed and Ninetails may rise to Uber unless perma-weather isn't as broken as it was last gen, unless of course they simply ban these certain DW abilities. Infernape had his four years of fame and it looks like Blaziken is dethroning him this time around. Also Shadow Tag on the Fire/Ghost is going to be Uber with ease unless they ban the ability. Either way we are looking at a very hyper offensive generation...Skarmory and friends will be lucky to make it to OU I think.
 
Blaziken gets Speed Boost! Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes!

Ok I'm done. But it's great that starters are getting new abilities these days.
 

calze6

Reclaiming da ladder
That ghost fire with shadow tag will be deadly. It can just switch in on a choiced move and set up forever.

I doubt politoed and ninetails will be uber though. Having 4 perma weathers in OU will be so fun!
 
I know the abilities you all have mentioned are great, and will completely shift the Metagame as wek know it, but it seems as if everyone is ignoring the fact that Vaporeon got Hydration. In getting this, it out-classes Manaphy in every way.

Could we be seeing the first ever Uber Eeveelution in Vaporeon?

Also, what about Technician on Breloom and Roserade?

Most people think Mach Punch with Breloom...I'm thinking there is finally a use for Bullet Seed.

And Mega Drain behind Technician on Rosey is also something to give some consideration, as well.

Also,m anybody else notice how big of a "F" You they gave to Seaking??? @_@
 
Some of these abilities are useless. No Guard will still be the ability for Machamp. And I think Seaking got what it needed for OU! XD (thanks for pointing that out, Jeyre80)

And I really don't think Vappy will be going Uber. Manaphy still had Tail Glow, Calm Mind, a better offensive movepool, and overall better stats. And Vappy's invaluable role as a Wish passer would be compromised if it were to run Rest over Wish in rain.
 
Yeah, you may have missed a few, I'm taking the time to check it and go. Your welcome. XD



Code:
Venusaur - Chlorophyll
Charizard - Solar Power
Blastoise - [B][U]Rain Dish[/U][/B]
Butterfree - Tinted Lens
Beedrill - Sniper
Raticate - Hustle
Fearow - Sniper
Raichu - Lightningrod
Clefable - Unaware
[B][U]Ninetails - Drought[/U][/B]
Wigglytuff - Frisk
Vileplume - Effect Spore
Parasect - Damp
Golduck - Swift Swim
Poliwrath - Swift Swim
Alakazam - Magic Guard
Machamp - Steadfast
Victreebel - Gluttony
Tentacruel - Rain Dish
Golem - Sand Veil
Rapidash - Flame Body
Dodrio - Tangled Feet
Dewgong - Ice Body
Hypno - Inner Focus
Electrode - Aftermath
Marowak - Battle Armor
Hitmonlee - [U][B]Unburden[/U][/B]
Hitmonchan - Inner Focus
Kangaskhan - Inner Focus
Seaking - Lightningrod (This is Horrible. XD)
Mr.Mime - Technician
Scyther - Steadfast
Jynx - Dry Skin
Lapras - Hydration
[U][B]Vaporeon - Hydration[/U][/B]
Jolteon - Quick Feet
Flareon - Guts
Snorlax - Gluttony
Articuno - Snow Cloak
Zapdos - Lightningrod
Moltres - Flame Body
Meganium - Leaf Guard
Typhlosion - Flash Fire
Furret - Frisk
Noctowl - Tinted Lens
Ledian - Iron Fist
Ariados - Sniper
Lanturn - [U][B]Water Absorb[/B][/U]
Ampharos - Plus
[B][U]Politoed - Drizzle[/U][/B]
Sunflora - Early Bird
Quagsire - Unaware
Umbreon - Inner Focus
Qwilfish - Intimidate
Delibird - Insomnia
Mantine - Water Veil
Kingdra - Damp
Donphan - Sand Veil
Hitmontop - Steadfast
Raikou - Volt Absorb
Entei - Flash Fire
Suicune - Water Absorb
Sceptile - Unburden
[B][U]Blaziken - Speed Boost[/U][/B]
Swampert - Damp
Linoone - Quick Feet
Beautifly - Rivalry
Dustox - Compoundeyes
Ludicolo - Own Tempo
Swellow - Scrappy
Pelipper - Rain Dish
Breloom - [U][B]Technician[/U][/B]
Exploud - Scrappy
Manectric - Minus
Swalot - Gluttony
Sharpedo - [U][B]Speed Boost[/U][/B]
Wailord - Pressure
Camerupt - Anger Point
Torkoal - Shell Armor
Grumpig - Gluttony
Cacturne - Water Absorb
Altaria - Cloud Nine
Whiscash - Hydration
Crawdaunt - Adabtability
Cradily - [U][B]Storm Drain[/U][/B]
Armaldo - [U][B]Swift Swim[/U][/B]
Milotic - Cute Charm
Walrein - Oblivious
Huntail - Water Veil
Gorebyss - Hydration
Relicanth - Sturdy
Luvdisc - Hydration
Regirock - Sturdy
Regice - Ice Body
Torterra - Shell Armor
Infernape - Iron Fist
Staraptor - Reckless
Kricketune - Technician
Luxray - Guts
Roserade - Technician
Bastiodon - Soundproof
Mothim - Tinted Lens
Pachirisu - Volt Absorb
Floatzel - Water Veil
Ambipom - Skill Link
Loppuny - Limber
Skuntank - Keen Eye
Garchomp - Rough Skin
Drapion - Keen Eye
Lumineon - Water Veil
Abomasnow - Soundproof
Lickilicky - Cloud Nine
Rhyperior - Reckless
Electivire - Vital Spirit
Magmortar - Vital Spirit
Togekiss - Super Luck
Yanmega - Frisk
Leafeon - Chlorophyll
Glaceon - Ice Body
[B][U]Gliscor - Poison Heal[/U][/B]
Mamoswine - Thick Fat
Heatran - Flame Body
Emboar - Reckless
Daikenki - Shell Armor
Muurando - Scrappy
Yanakki - Overgrow
Baokki - Blaze
Hiyakki - Torrent
Kenhorou - Rivalry
Kokoromori - Simple
Doryuuzu - Mold Breaker
Tabunne - Klutz
Roopushin - Iron Fist
Gamageroge - Water Absorb
Nageki - Mold Breaker
Dageki - Mold Breaker
Pendoraa - Quick Feet
Erufuun - Chlorophyll
Doreida - Leaf Guard
Basurao - Mold Breaker
Warubiaru - Anger Point
Marakacchi - Storm Drain
Zuruzukin - Intimidate
Shinpora - Tinted Lens
Abagoora - Swift Swim
Dasutodasu - Aftermath
Chirachiino - Skill Link
[B][U]Gochiruzeru - Shadow Tag[/U][/B]
Swanna - Hydration
Mebukijika - Serene Grace
Emonga - Motor Drive
Burunkeru - Damp
Denchura - Swarm
Gigigear - Clear Body
[B][U]Shanderaa - Shadow Tag[/U][/B]
Tsunbeaa - Swift Swim
Agirudaa - Unburden
Maggyo - Sand Veil
Kojondo - Reckless
Kurimugan - Mold Breaker
Goruggo - No Guard
Kirikizan - Pressure
Baffuron - Soundproof
Kuitaran - White Smoke
Aianto - Traunt (lol)
Urugamosu - Swarm

Blastoise: My an epic wall be on the way?
Vaporeon: Hello Ubers. Meet a tiny cat. Fish. Thing. It can sleep it's troubles away. I thought it was amazing you didn't underline this. It'll be invincible unless you can OHKO it.
Lanturn: Gunna be very Inpredictable. May move up to OU.
Cradily: Not amazing, but it is a powerful wall, and healing 1/8th a turn with leftovers is no laughing matter.
Armaldo: Gunna go straight to OU. In a Rain Team, he'll be epic. No doubt.
Breloom: Bullet Seed. Gunna KILL with it.


In other News:
Anyone Gunna use Ononosku? I really like him. Sazando is epic too.
 

Simse

Well-Known Member
And I really don't think Vappy will be going Uber. Manaphy still had Tail Glow, Calm Mind, a better offensive movepool, and overall better stats. And Vappy's invaluable role as a Wish passer would be compromised if it were to run Rest over Wish in rain.

Someone who thinks like me. Manaphy > Vaporeon in Ubers. Vaporeon will always be screwed in Ubers thanks to Thunder, while Manaphy can Calm Mind until it laughs at Thunder.

Although, Vaporeon could be interesting in OU thanks to Politoed, unless, it's thrown into Ubers where it will be completely useless.

Edit:
Looking at some of the new abilities. Blazekin will outclass Infernape now. It can run a similar movepool, to all the sets. But with more speed and power.
Infernape could run SD | Fire Punch | Thunder Punch | Mach Punch, I'm interested to see how that does.
Swampert has been made a better lead thanks to Damp.
 
it seems as if everyone is ignoring the fact that Vaporeon got Hydration. In getting this, it out-classes Manaphy in every way.
Sorry but I lol'd. Because Vappy gets Tail Glow and Calm Mind with 100 speed right?

I'm raging that Beedrill got shitty Sniper over something awesome like Technician or Skill Link but whatever.

Drizzle Politoed/Drought Ninetales will definitely shake up OU. It's looking like mini-Ubers with all of the weather changing going on. We can only theorymon atm but OU will be a very different game in 5th gen.

Flash Fire Scarf Eruption Typhlosion will be fun to abuse, especially with easy spinning this gen.
 
Oh god, that'd be hilarious.
Imagine that in the Sunlight?
What if it got boosted by Cherrim?
In triple battles, a person could abuse two cherrim on groudon or Ninetales for a cruel, sick joke.
 

Centipod128

Well-Known Member
Abiltys

I like how Seedot got illusion and Squirtle got Rain Dish. I think it will really help them in battle.
 

fschulze47

Mighty Marvo
Ah, that's too bad Shanderaa gets Shadow Tag, he's probably my favorite 5th gen Poke by design, but Shadow Tag really does break him.

Interesting new niche for Politoad and Ninetails....
 

RoseSymphony

Cloud Princess
I don't want to sound like a complete n00b by posting this, but has Shadow Tag always had the effect in bold?

"The opponent cannot run nor switch. If this Pokemon switches, the opponent will remain trapped. The opponent may still switch by using Baton Pass."

Found on Serebii. I don't remember Shadow Tag trapping them even when the trapper switches out. That just seems too unfair.
 
Poison Heal Gliscor will be crap unless Black / White has a move tutor for Roost. I'm not giving up 50% instant heal and 20% Evasion for a status immunity and 6.25% extra health per turn.

I really hope Blaziken gets Swords Dance somehow. Swords Dance + Speed Boost leaves Blaziken with a TON of sweeping power. Did I mention High Jump Kick has 130 base power now? Yeah, suck it hard Infernape.

Too bad Regirock doesn't get Solid Rock, but at least I can hack one now with Solid Rock and no one will be able to tell if it has Sturdy or not.
 

jellsprout

Well-Known Member
Be afraid, be very afraid. For Seaking just got Lightningrod! (edit: "Lightningrod grants +1 sp.atk when hit by an electric move and negates the damage." A bit more useful than I thought.)
As long as Tyranitar is OU, Ninetales won't ever get above BL. I don't think Politoed will be as common either.

Also, these Pokémon can't get Egg Moves or 3rd/4th gen moves, right? So no Baton Pass Blaziken, no Wish Vaporeon and no Flare Blitz Entei?
 

Blazios

Well-Known Member
Hydration Luvdisc>Arceus

Plus Ampharos and Minus Manetric, eh? Well, beats Plusle and Minun. At least Gigigear has something decent to team up with.
 
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