Echoes of Angels RMT

[MistyLover]

Well, I named this thread as a resemblance to the Harry Potter title, because well, I am obsessed with the series and since this is my last RMT...(for a while), it will be dedicated to the book, especially Hermione Granger. *Sighs*. Well, here it is.

@Leftovers
Adamant Nature (+Spd -SAtk)
88 HP / 252 Atk / 168 Spd
-Earthquake
-Crunch
-Stone Edge
-Dragon Dance

Threat.

@Life Orb
Mild Nature (+SAtk -Def)
104 HP / 64 Atk / 136 Spd / 204 SAtk
-Draco Meteor
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Focus Punch

Like this moveset.

@Leftovers
Adamant Nature (+Atk -SAtk)
104 HP / 252 Atk / 56 Def / 96 Spd
-Earthquake
-Ice Punch
-Meteor Mash
-Agility

Yes, simple. I like an Ice Punch because it would certainly do more damage to its threats. Agility to out speed other sweepers. My lead.

@Leftovers
Bold Nature (+Def -Atk)
212 HP / 252 Def / 44 SAtk
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Rest
-Sleep Talk

Simple, best moveset for Milotic. And thankfully, I just hatched a Bold Natured one.

@Life Orb
Timid Nature (+Spd -Atk)
40 HP / 252 SAtk / 216 Spd
-Calm Mind
-Shadow Ball
-Dragon Pulse
-Aura Sphere

Awesome Special Sweeper.

@Life Orb
Timid Nature (+Spd -Atk)
140 HP / 96 Def / 56 SAtk / 216 Spd
-Shadow Ball
-Thunderbolt
-Calm Mind
-Pain Split

Love this poke very much. Mysterious and magical. I love Pain Split on it.

Huge thanks to Frost Nova for the EV spreads...and thanks to -4J- for the Dragonite moveset and EV's.

So, what do you think of my team now?

 

[spareux]

eh tar doesn't counter weavile leads when half of them are carrying brick break .__.
and it certainly isn't beating gengar leads because most gar leads nowadays have Hypnosis
and then you've still got focus bomb and hp fight to **** yourself about.

I don't like dd-less dnite to have next to no para support because even if you pull off some gfg predicts it's still quite slow but w/e

I hate how everyone's suggesting explosionless agiligross

you have a pretty massive zappy weak, I'm not sure if a mismagius with non max hp is going to take many of its repeated hits tbh
I don't know if relying on Mismagius to take hits from mixape is really such a good idea either

 

[MistyLover]

eh tar doesn't counter weavile leads when half of them are carrying brick break .__.
and it certainly isn't beating gengar leads because most gar leads nowadays have Hypnosis
and then you've still got focus bomb and hp fight to **** yourself about.

I don't like dd-less dnite to have next to no para support because even if you pull off some gfg predicts it's still quite slow but w/e

I hate how everyone's suggesting explosionless agiligross

you have a pretty massive zappy weak, I'm not sure if a mismagius with non max hp is going to take many of its repeated hits tbh
I don't know if relying on Mismagius to take hits from mixape is really such a good idea either

Ok then, I think I will lead with Lucario. Zapdos weak? TTar counters it, so does Metagross and Dragonite. Lucario stands a fighting chance as well.

Explosion Metagross seems a bit risky in my opinion...The only Pokemon that deserves to have Explosion is Azelf. Mismagius, well, with those EV's, she could withstand an attack from mixape. So you think I should maximize HP for Mismagius?

 

[crudent]

Metagross always had Explosion in 3rd gen. No reason for it to change.

 

[MistyLover]

All right. I'll replace it with Meteor Mash.

 

[spareux]

Dragonite is 2HKO'd by Thunderbolt and won't be swapping in on anything with both sandstream and life orb hurting it.

Your Tyranitar will be more than likely 2HKO's by it; any previous damage from attacks, poison/burn, or spikes/stealth rock down, and it loses.

Meta is 2HKO'd most of the time and again can take no previous damage or it loses 100% of the time.
Lucario has worse defences than all these so evidently isn't swapping in either, especially on Choice Spec Thunderbolts.

Even with Max HP Mismagius won't be taking it's hits with ease in sandstream.

How is Lucario going to beat Brick Break Weaviles exactly?

Your concept of a counter is extremely flawed.

 

[spareux]

and stabless meta is even worse
put it over eq or dont put it over anythingif you do, you have to watch for magnezone obviously.

 

[MistyLover]

Metagross isn't 2HKO'ed by Zapdos. It can't. Not with Ice Punch or Explosion straight after sweeping. DOn't feel safe with Explosion...

 

[spareux]

Modest Max SAtk (383 stat) Zapdos STAB Thunderbolt on 104/0 HP/SDef Metagross respectively:
56-66% damage.
Modest Max Satk (383 stat) Zapdos STAB Thunderbolt @ Choice Glasses (574 stat) on 104/0 HP/SDef Metagross respectively:
83-98%


Life Orb does 72-85%.

People like to see numbers, so thought I'd post it.

 

[MistyLover]

What about Tyranitar? Surely one Stone Edge is able to 1HKO Zapdos.

 

[spareux]

And can Tyranitar swap in?

 

[MistyLover]

Most probably.

 

[spareux]

did you even listen to what I said

Your Tyranitar will be more than likely 2HKO'd by it; any previous damage from attacks, poison/burn, or spikes/stealth rock down, and it loses.

And that's when I'm not talking about LO/CG.

 

[Losa]

Most probably.

Max SAtk Zapdos Thunderbolt does like 60~71% to your Tyranitar.

 

[spareux]

46-54, actually.
so any lo/cg varients beat it.

 

[_Calm|Mind_]

Max SAtk Zapdos Thunderbolt does like 60~71% to your Tyranitar.

Did you take Sandstream into account?

 

[Losa]

I think I calculated LO or something.
Edit: Freaking Sandstorm thing. No I didn't calculate it.

 

[spareux]

actually, now I notice I have forgotten to factor in one very important thing, only CGZapdos beats this team.

edit: lol beaten by brayels.

 

[matrix]

No walls=bad team and a Heracross weak.
IMO, Milotic needs 252 def.
Close Combat>Aura Sphere with Hasty nature for OHKOing Blissey.

June is here, summer shall soon follow!

 

[MistyLover]

So, now that my Zapdos weak is on a better foot, are there more weaknesses?