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Elderly characters of the Pokemon series

Discussion in 'General Pokémon Discussion' started by shoz999, May 19, 2019.

  1. shoz999

    shoz999 The Legend of Mudkip

    Discuss about the many important elderly characters who invoke a sense of history of the Pokemon series right here!

    Drake (Left), Ultima (Top), Joseph Stone (Bottom) & Briney (Right) from Pokemon Adventures. What stories do you think they have to tell?

    I'm surprised the term "Elderly" isn't a categorization featured in databases like Bulbapedia because the elderly play A LOT of important roles in the Pokemon world, it's lore and the stories it tells, especially in the games and Pokemon fans can easily notice just how hugely important these characters are in the games through it's faithful adaptation, the Pokemon Adventures manga, which is a great reflection of the games lore and world, constantly reminding you that many of the pioneers, storytellers and innovators of the Pokemon world are elderly folk, almost all of them originating from the games as extremely important characters that are vital to the lore and story of Pokemon, from powerful trainers like Hoenn Elite Four Member Drake, teachers like Ultima of the Sevii Isles who tutors the "ultimate" moves Hydro Cannon, Blast Burn & Frenzy Plant to the player's starter Pokemon, to bosses like Joseph Stone who runs the Devon Corporation and is the father of the Hoenn Pokemon Champion and finally just ordinary folk that will assist you on your journey such as Briney who takes you to Dewford Town by boat. These are a fair number of examples of just how important the elderly are in the Pokemon world, especially the games, and they aren't even some of the more very popularly known ones like Prof. Oak.

    There are also two other noted characteristics the Pokemon series often features in the elderly that the games & manga especially often share. This is that so many of these important characters know each other, no matter how faraway the region can be and the other one is that a lot of these characters just invoke a sense of history around them and elsewhere, a sense of world-building of not just their surroundings but what the region they lived or traveled in used to look or feel like.

    So to sum it up, elderly characters play very strong roles in the Pokemon series and it is undoubtedly going to happen again in Pokemon Sword & Shield. With that being said, discuss about the elderly characters featured in the Pokemon series! Ah but here's a question to kick off the discussion if nothing comes to mind. What's an elderly character you want to meet at a younger age? Or perhaps what story do you think they might impart?
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  2. WishIhadaManafi5

    WishIhadaManafi5 Still miss you, Lorne. Staff Member

    Wouldn't Agatha fit in to that as well? I think her character is pretty interesting, given her history with Professor Oak and with being a Elite 4 trainer.
  3. Leonhart

    Leonhart The Lying King

    One thing that bothers me regarding elderly characters in this franchise is that despite their age and experience, very few of them are impressive battlers. I mean we have a few stand-out elderly characters like Kikuko (Agatha), but people like her are the minority.
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  4. shoz999

    shoz999 The Legend of Mudkip

    Agatha, Prof. Oak, Daycare Couple & Kurt

    Absolutely. Agatha is often portrayed as a good friend of Oak who calls him a fool for working on the Pokedex. The manga actually expands this much further that Agatha used to be Prof. Oak's childhood friend and his rival in much of the same way as Red & Green which is just so freaking cool that I wish it was canon in the games because it just makes so much sense given Agatha's friendly-disappointed attitude with Oak.

    I'd say there is plenty, you got Agatha, Pryce, Wattson, Drake, Wake, Bertha, Drayden, Ramos, Wulfric, Drasna & Hala for example and that's just Gym Leaders and Elite Four members.
  5. Leonhart

    Leonhart The Lying King

    I wasn't counting Gym Leaders since I don't think of them as being that impressive in terms of skill or knowledge when compared to the Four Heavenly Kings (Elite Four) at least. But I did forget about a few characters like Dracaena (Drasna) I suppose. But my main point is that this franchise often shows kids are being much more competent than elderly characters for the most part, and I understand why that is, but I still find it strangely amusing.
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  6. shoz999

    shoz999 The Legend of Mudkip

    I wouldn't say that but I get what your saying. They kind of actually explain this in Sun & Moon's depressing yet very human side quest, the Eevee quest where you have to challenge a bunch of once-famous young trainers who are now a bunch of elderly folk that have retired or in one's case, passed away.
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  7. RedJirachi

    RedJirachi Veteran member

    AZ is the eldest of them all, physically in his 60s and chronologically 3000+. I really like the concept behind him, though the execution was lacking
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  8. shoz999

    shoz999 The Legend of Mudkip


    AZ really is tall. In the Pokemon Adventures manga, the first time AZ is introduce, you will likely be surprised even if you played the games. You know he's tall but you wouldn't expect him to look like a giant compared to the height of the kids. I wish the anime did the same as manga so people could express and discuss their reactions when seeing AZ adapted out of his game-sprite form and seen standing next to an actual regular-sized kid. The image above gives you an idea just how tall AZ is compared to Mega Evolution Guru Gurkinn and Mega Heracross.
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  9. RedJirachi

    RedJirachi Veteran member

    I figured the tallness is a consequence of what gave him immortality. Like how his Floette is just one BST away from its evolved form's BST
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  10. KyogreThunder

    KyogreThunder Call of Fate

    I like Drasna because of her backstory and looks and Drayden for his personality. Agatha and Bertha are pretty good characters, too.
  11. GymTrainerAlex

    GymTrainerAlex Breeder

    Definitely Agatha and Bertha.
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