Ember has a Tablet. :D

[EmberGryphon]

*insert feminist rambling about how all characters ought to have hips and not be just the skinny-anorexic-stabyouwithmyelbow-anime chicks of nowadays* x3

I'm completely redoing A Silver Lining. From scratch. Because version 1 sucked hard.

So here's a preview. And yes, there are bits of this I don't like, too- DarkClaw (the Meowth) looks funny and her head is too small, and Ember's (the girl's) hand is freakishly large. But all in all, I don't think it's bad. I used the Dodge tool even though all the elitist CG people say not to because I wanted shiney anime hair. :3

See also:

We Have Diamonds Title Page- wip

The first, still work-in-progress, illustration for my fanfic, We Have Diamonds in Our Eyes. Only Lugia's finished, but I like the composition of the pic as a whole.

Flareon and Leafia cuddleses!

Done for Vycksta, but I like it enough that I might color it. Leafia was hard, 'cause I was working off a sprite... something I've never done before. ^^() But that one turned out well, while I'm not sure I'm fond of Flareon at all in that pic. =o

Running with the Big Dogs

Anime pokemorphs? Well, it's a good thing I'm original. x3 Mightyena and Meowth. Totally done in pencil, not on the tablet, but I'm posting it here 'cause when it got its own thread, no one posted. My feelings were hurt. ;-;

And! I now have a DA set aside from my main one just for pokemon fanart. See it here: Pokeart DA

Critisism et all fully welcomed~

 

[EmberGryphon]

Y'all suck. For serious. xD

Heh, whatever. I'd posted what I thought was a new pic, but it turned out I'd posted it before... so here, have my first ever tablet scribble. ^_^

 

[Ophie]

Eh, my stuff doesn't get a lot of attention either. For the tablet drawing, what does that say next to the arrow? Is it "1st try"?

Your style is unique (or at least very distinct from anyone else's work I've seen here), which is what I like to see. Looks like it could be adapted for "slow animation," you know, like with The Wind in the Willows. Really, I'm tired of people trying to imitate other artists they admire.

There's something unsettling about that Meowth though. It must be the lack of a snout compared to the otherwise realistic-looking approach you've done to it.

Nice illustration for "We Have Diamonds," though without a story, I can't comment on how it would relate to it. I'd have to say though that, as far as I know, Lugia was supposed to be a dragon and not a mythical bird. That's Ho-oh's job.

The eyes on Flareon and Leafia look too human. Personally, it clashes with the dog-like bodies Flareon and Leafia have. Flareon's dewlap looks like jsut an ordinary fluff of fur and not a flame, since it doesn't have that fiery shape to it, though the tail seems to be just fine.

As for the last one, there's something that keeps me from recognizing the one on the right as Mightyena. I'm not sure what it is; I think it's the lack of filling in the areas to match Mightyena's black fur.

 

[EmberGryphon]

Thanks for stopping by!

Eh, my stuff doesn't get a lot of attention either. For the tablet drawing, what does that say next to the arrow? Is it "1st try"?

Your style is unique (or at least very distinct from anyone else's work I've seen here), which is what I like to see. Looks like it could be adapted for "slow animation," you know, like with The Wind in the Willows. Really, I'm tired of people trying to imitate other artists they admire.

Thank you! :3 I've been working on developing my style forever, so I'm glad to hear that it's not all that easily taken for anime imitation. ^_^

There's something unsettling about that Meowth though. It must be the lack of a snout compared to the otherwise realistic-looking approach you've done to it.

Darn it, you're right. x_X That with the too-small head. I was wondering what made it look so... off.

Nice illustration for "We Have Diamonds," though without a story, I can't comment on how it would relate to it. I'd have to say though that, as far as I know, Lugia was supposed to be a dragon and not a mythical bird. That's Ho-oh's job.

The story's linked in my signature, if you're interested. ^^() And Lugia is a dragon... I just draw most of my dragons with beaks and feathered wings. ^^ I like pointy mouths.

The eyes on Flareon and Leafia look too human. Personally, it clashes with the dog-like bodies Flareon and Leafia have. Flareon's dewlap looks like jsut an ordinary fluff of fur and not a flame, since it doesn't have that fiery shape to it, though the tail seems to be just fine.

I never would have seen that for the eyes. :3 And yeah, there's a little wrong with how I drew Flareon's flames; I was gonna color it, and figure that would help it... but then the attention span ran dry. >_>

As for the last one, there's something that keeps me from recognizing the one on the right as Mightyena. I'm not sure what it is; I think it's the lack of filling in the areas to match Mightyena's black fur.

Once again, I was in the process of coloring it. x3 I lost the half-colored file when my computer crashed, though...

 

[Ophie]

Anime imitators annoy me. Flip through Tokyopop's Rising Stars of Manga, and you'll find 80% of the winning entries unsuccessfully emulate Japan. People have mistaken your approach to an imitation of anime? It looks a lot more American to me (apologies if you're not from America). (If you want a quick glimpse at my style, look no further than my sig.)

I don't think it'd be an easy feat to make a realistic-looking Meowth without a nose...Mad props if you can pull it off.

When it comes to flames, they naturally go up. (If you want a scientific explanation, it's because fire heats up the air around it, making it less dense and carrying the visible part of the fire up with it.) I think Flareon obeys that rule too; flames that go in all directions tend to be slow-motion explosions.

It's a shame that people are ignoring your work. I'll bet it's because the title has nothing to do with Pokémon.

 

[Raunchy_fad]

That's one huge snoz on the girl, I'll give you that, man.
But you know what? I really like your art. It's a nice change from the stuff I usually find swimming around serebii.
But man, her face is annoying me. I'll tolerate the nose, but the way her chin goes off in this angle... or indents... or maybe her mouth is in the wrong place. Just below that nose of hers needs some fixing, if you ask me.

 

[EmberGryphon]

Anime imitators annoy me. Flip through Tokyopop's Rising Stars of Manga, and you'll find 80% of the winning entries unsuccessfully emulate Japan. People have mistaken your approach to an imitation of anime? It looks a lot more American to me (apologies if you're not from America). (If you want a quick glimpse at my style, look no further than my sig.)

I completely agree. x_X I'm glad to hear you think my style looks more American, though, since that was what I was going for! :3

I don't think it'd be an easy feat to make a realistic-looking Meowth without a nose...Mad props if you can pull it off.

But with a nose, it wouldn't look like Meowth! Paradox...

When it comes to flames, they naturally go up. (If you want a scientific explanation, it's because fire heats up the air around it, making it less dense and carrying the visible part of the fire up with it.) I think Flareon obeys that rule too; flames that go in all directions tend to be slow-motion explosions.

Well, I know flames go up, but I always figured Flareon's ruff-thing -was-, sort of, a frozen explosion. ^^() Applying science to pokemon usually ends on a note that makes no sense....

It's a shame that people are ignoring your work. I'll bet it's because the title has nothing to do with Pokémon.

I was considering titling it either "Naked!" or "Sex!", 'cause I've had some experience with threads that are ignored. But I only wanted a specific -sort- of attention...

That's one huge snoz on the girl, I'll give you that, man.
But you know what? I really like your art. It's a nice change from the stuff I usually find swimming around serebii.
But man, her face is annoying me. I'll tolerate the nose, but the way her chin goes off in this angle... or indents... or maybe her mouth is in the wrong place. Just below that nose of hers needs some fixing, if you ask me.

I like drawing people with big noses! x3 I have no idea why. They just look better to me than the little triangle things jutting out of a face. Her mouth might benefit from being moved up a smidge and there does seem to be a bit of a jut in her jawline... I think I see what might be bugging you. ^^ Thanks for the critisism, and your nice praise! <3

 

[EmberGryphon]

Here's some scanned art, after a long and dirty battle with my virus-ridden computer over whether or not it ought to work.

More art for Diamonds, which is still linked in my sig.

Houndoom and Persian cuddles, because they're cute together. ^_^

And the last one, 'cause Gengar is so very, very pimp. Inspited by the discussion in the Pokemon x pokemon thread in the shipping section. x3

 

[Clockworkz]

The lipstick on the Pokemon freaks me out. Otherwise, pretty concise, I guess. I like your realistic Pokemon stuffs more than anything else, seeing as how your human anatomy makes me cringe (no offense). If you WANT me to embelish on that, I will.

Concerning some of your previous comments...
I just hope you don't go off on a tangent about "all anime art is for poser wannabies lolol"
Because that's the vibe I'm getting, subtle as it is.

 

[Ophie]

(On a semi-related note, I loved the art style in the Rising Stars of Manga entry about the monkeys. It looked like nothing I'd have ever seen, which is great.)

Don't do the "Sex!" title thing; The Simpsons did it in 1991, and it's become a cliché. Everyone will be expecting it.

I took a look at Flareon again (the official stuff). Flareon's dewlap seems to have the tuftlike outlines that define a flame. What you did was a jagged edge that seems to imply "fluffy" rather than "fiery."

For "Frey," Persian's feet look really big. The big guy's design seems to work well though; I can feel his gentle nature through his posture and facial expression, and I can even imagine how his voice must sound like. That's mastery of character design, in my opinion. No comment on the Tauros except that the beady eyes kept me from recognizing it for a little while.

For the Gengar pimp one, I still can't recognize some of them. Is that Yanma behind Gengar and Sneasel between Gengar and Meowth?

As for the last post, I would have to say that this style of artwork is an acquired taste, a lot like how Peter Chung's character design works.

 

[EmberGryphon]

The lipstick on the Pokemon freaks me out. Otherwise, pretty concise, I guess. I like your realistic Pokemon stuffs more than anything else, seeing as how your human anatomy makes me cringe (no offense). If you WANT me to embelish on that, I will.

Concerning some of your previous comments...
I just hope you don't go off on a tangent about "all anime art is for poser wannabies lolol"
Because that's the vibe I'm getting, subtle as it is.

Heheheh. x33
Yes, I do want you to embellish on what's wrong with my human anatomy, if you don't mind investing the time. <3 I do it to your art all the time; I know I need as much or more crit than I dish out.

All anime art isn't for poser wannabes, but.... it's just done so much, and I want to be different... And seen as standing out. :3 Plus, if I were trying to draw skinny, well-endowed anime chicks, I know I'd be failing, and I don't want people to think that's what I was goin' for. I hope you aren't offended!

Thanks for posting!

(On a semi-related note, I loved the art style in the Rising Stars of Manga entry about the monkeys. It looked like nothing I'd have ever seen, which is great.)

Don't do the "Sex!" title thing; The Simpsons did it in 1991, and it's become a cliché. Everyone will be expecting it.

I knew I'd seen it somewhere. >_>

I took a look at Flareon again (the official stuff). Flareon's dewlap seems to have the tuftlike outlines that define a flame. What you did was a jagged edge that seems to imply "fluffy" rather than "fiery."

Heh... I suppose you're right. ^_^ It was a pretty quick doodle; if I color it I'll fix it first. Thanks for the help!

For "Frey," Persian's feet look really big. The big guy's design seems to work well though; I can feel his gentle nature through his posture and facial expression, and I can even imagine how his voice must sound like. That's mastery of character design, in my opinion. No comment on the Tauros except that the beady eyes kept me from recognizing it for a little while.

You couldn't recognized Tauros? =o And you thought my human guy looked better than the pokemon? Heheh, well, thanks for the compliment! It's wonderful to hear. I exagerate some body parts, as y'all might've noticed- feet, hands, noses, that sorta thing. Maybe I should make that less over-the-top.

For the Gengar pimp one, I still can't recognize some of them. Is that Yanma behind Gengar and Sneasel between Gengar and Meowth?

As for the last post, I would have to say that this style of artwork is an acquired taste, a lot like how Peter Chung's character design works.

It's Vaporeon, Raichu, Pidgey, Ariados, Sneasel and Meowth. :3 So to answer your question, no, and yes.

I like my style. ;-; Well, hopefully you're right, and so will other people... somday. x3

 

[Clockworkz]

Eh....
I couldn't be bothered to write out a full critique (I just don't have teh time =\), but I did make a redline.
I don't know what the hell you did with her midsection, but it definately too long and heavy to be appealing to the eyes at all.
I understand you don't wanna make the same cookie cutter girls. But it looks to me like you're making this for other people. And you're gonna wanna have to make people want to read it by making women gorgeous, and men handsome, and so on. Doesn't have to be anime, but it can't be "realistic bodies, but not". It just doesn't work unless you have an amazing amount of talent and skill.

 

[EmberGryphon]

I see what your saying, and I agree with you at least about the hands and the arms, and I'll prolly bring her stomach in a little. Thanks muchly for the redline! But... I -don't- want to make a skinny, streamline-pretty girl. First off, the sad (sad, sad, sad) truth is, Ember is based off me, and I'm average build- and I don't see why that makes anyone less attractive to the eye. If I'm going to base her off myself, she's going to have the flaws, too. People always say you should make your characters more and more original, but then they throw out guidelines like that- they should be different from other characters if they're still skinny and have boobs or, if they're men, are either stick-thin and effemenate or heavily muscled.

Ahem. Sorry for the rant. >_>

Also, I challenge your claim that sex appeal is what draws people to pokemon themed comics. ^~

This post makes it seem like I don't appreciate your critisism. ;-; I do! Like I said, you're right about the arm and prolly about the hand, and I see what I did that threw you off so much with the midsection- I didn't know where to put her left leg, and that makes the left side of her waist look longer than the side that's closer to us... So thanks a lot!

But even if I make her a little more skinny, I'm not cutting off her stomach. ^~

 

[Tyger-san]

Wow, you have a very unique style. I really like it alot. Your Pokemon dont look so cartoonish but take on what looks like a more "realistic" form. Its still cartoon-like but it has a realistic feel to it. I like it alot; especially the Flareon and Leafia pic. Its just so sweet .

But I agree about the human in the pic above, it looks nice but a little unpreportional. But I think in no time you can improve. Critics help an artist to a point to where they can realize things they could not really see on their own. But over all with your pics they are awesome. I look forward to seeing more art coming from you and i'll be sure to check by here often.

Keep up the great work,

~ Tyger-san

 

[EmberGryphon]

Wow, you have a very unique style. I really like it alot. Your Pokemon dont look so cartoonish but take on what looks like a more "realistic" form. Its still cartoon-like but it has a realistic feel to it. I like it alot; especially the Flareon and Leafia pic. Its just so sweet .

But I agree about the human in the pic above, it looks nice but a little unpreportional. But I think in no time you can improve. Critics help an artist to a point to where they can realize things they could not really see on their own. But over all with your pics they are awesome. I look forward to seeing more art coming from you and i'll be sure to check by here often.

Keep up the great work,

~ Tyger-san

Thank you! It's a nice thing to hear! :3

I definitely appreciate Clockworkz and Ophie's wonderful critisism! I hope most of the kinks in my style are smoothed out, and I'll owe them if it happens. ^~

 

[Clockworkz]

What I'm saying is, it's very, very difficult to combine a successful semi-manga style (which is what you have, like it or not) with realistic characteristics and definitions.
You're gonna hafta pick one; realism, or style. It's tough to have both, but if you can pull it off, kudos to you.

 

[EmberGryphon]

What I'm saying is, it's very, very difficult to combine a successful semi-manga style (which is what you have, like it or not) with realistic characteristics and definitions.
You're gonna hafta pick one; realism, or style. It's tough to have both, but if you can pull it off, kudos to you.

*sigh* Unfortuantly, putting the Raving Feminist side of me off into the dark corner where she can rant in peace, I haveta admit you have a point... (and a very kind way of putting it~)

I'll try and combine the two of them, out of principle, but if the comic gets ignored, I'll at least have your advise to fall back on.

 

[Ophie]

Heh, I do plenty of quick doodles, and they all turn out horribly inaccurate...sometimes even for my own characters.

Over-the-top styles are okay with me, as long as exaggeration isn't the only thing going for the artwork. And I guess one characteristic of Tauros I can always remember is that it has tiny slits for pupils and that its eyes are identical to those of Scyther and Wartortle. In other words, I saw it as a "cartoon bull," like a kind Bugs Bunny would go up against. That doesn't mean there's nothing wrong with that Tauros (though it still looks a bit lanky for a bull); I just didn't connect it with a Pokémon until a while.

What I'm saying is, it's very, very difficult to combine a successful semi-manga style (which is what you have, like it or not) with realistic characteristics and definitions.

And, like how I say that anime is not a style, neither is manga. It seems FAR more influenced by animation studios of the USA than of Japan. If this is semi-manga, then what would a style completely removed from manga look like?