Then why is discussing of it allowed here?! ... It is allowed, right? I mean a ton of people mention using it in their sigs...
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Everyone Has perfect IV Pokemon?
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randomspot555
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Because it is discussion. It is not active help in hacking, just talking about hacking as a whole.
All Agonist was telling you was that RNG is in no way hacking. Which is true.
No I know what he wa saying, but he did however only answer part of my question. But I don't believe you are right, I could have sworn that even talking about it wasn't allowed, but I could be wrong I guess. You do have a good point, at least. B
randomspot555
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PokeTrainer Nova
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Thanks for all the replies everyone. I guess it confirms my suspicions. It seems that some people deem Pokegen/PokeSav are acceptable to some, while outright hacking to others (Which I happen to agree with).
With so many players using these programs to make perfect pokemon with little/no effort hasn't that played a massive problem in the pokemon competitive community???
It seems like there is no way for players to determine whether something is legitimate or not using these programs if players use it intelligently.
With so many players using these programs to make perfect pokemon with little/no effort hasn't that played a massive problem in the pokemon competitive community???
It seems like there is no way for players to determine whether something is legitimate or not using these programs if players use it intelligently.
randomspot555
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PokeGen and PokeSav are hacking. If it is "acceptable" or not is completely up to one's own opinion.
No because most of the most serious competitive players pretty much play on battle simulators. You can do several matches in the same amount of time it takes to do 1 6v6 match within the games.
Okay, so? Ultimately, a hacked Pokemon doesn't have an inherent advantage over an identical Pokemon that was produced legitmately within the games. I'm not saying someone who hacks isn't being a jerk, especially if they don't disclose it. But it doesn't give a trainer an advantage in a battle. Strategy, team building, the luck factor, etc... will all be infinitely more important in a Pokemon battle and who wins or loses rather than if someone hacked up a Pokemon.
DarthVader
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I guess most battlers on Serebii have either perfect IVed Pokemon or Pokemon with very good IVs.
Yeah i don't get that. The value of my shiny pokemon is decide by me alone not everyone else so why do people go on about decreasing the value of shinies that aren't thier own?
I did RNG some shinies on my diamond version before i learnt how to use the pokeradar. I don't count them in my shiny collection but i do still value them. It is just like with the shiny charm why is there such a big fuss over using it or not? The whole point of shiny hunting is to find and capture a shiny isn't it? Then what is the problem?
Oh and i have in total 55 shiny Shinx from a few different chaining attempts on my gen IV games and no it hasn't decreased shiny shinx value for everyone else they are my shiny Shinx and i value them how i like.
Kunaiman9u9
Magikarp Salesman
I have to say I love everything about this thread. I personally prefer the love of breeding myself and I have heard the same things you have my friend. It's nice to see some information about all this, although I will always remain loyal to the good pastime of breeding. It may not be as quick as some other methods but there's a certain sense of accomplishment when you finally get that pokemon raised up by your hands alone. Keep up the good work and way to represent all of the Breeders of the pokemon world.
Zenotwapal
have a drink on me
It goes down to human nature. Some shiny hunters hold grudges because they don't obtain shinies at the rate say I would when I RNG. They become jealous in a sense, and try to justify their actions, and put down others. Anyone who holds this true, really is being quite juvenile.
People have flawless pokemon because they want to compete. Nothing more, nothing less.
PokemonTrainerKaden
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I don't really consider PokeGen or Pokesav hacking unless a person teaches their pokemon ridiculous moves like having a Magikarp use Thunderbolt, gives them too many EV's, IV's, or any other stat/ability that they wouldn't normally have. As long as they stay within the limits, I think it's ok, and I might actually go back over to my dad's computer to PokeGen a pokemon for my in-game team.
PrismaticPrincessAnna
I'll do my Lilliest
no. Nver cared about that nya~
However, by definition, PokeGen and Pokesav are hacking.
PokemonTrainerKaden
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That is true, but not everyone considers it hacking, and not everyone uses it for the same purpose. We have people who use them to cheat against other players, and we have people who use it for fun, and in-game things. I wasn't trying to say it wasn't hacking, I was trying to say that not everyone is going to consider it hacking, because they aren't always used for hacking purposes.
If it is a fact that it's hacking, it doesn't matter what people think. A fact is a fact. However I get what you mean. If someone doesn't mind if someone uses PokéGen and Pokésav, then it's fair.
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