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Evolving Strategy (600)

Discussion in 'Pokémon - Diamond & Pearl: Galactic Battle' started by Serebii, Jun 18, 2009.

  1. Serebii

    Serebii And, as if by magic, the webmaster appeared... Staff Member Admin

    Full Battle! Paul VS Ash!

    The battle between Ash & Paul continues. With Paul sending out his newly evolved Magmortar against Pikachu, the battle is heating up. Feeling he has to win, Ash endeavours to defeat Paul and sends out Chimchar. However, will Chimchar be able to defeat the Pokémon of his former master?

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  2. Lucario At Service

    Lucario At Service Calm Trainer

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  3. AndyPandy

    AndyPandy Jarate?!? Nooooooo

    No wonder Ash is depressed/upset in the next episode, after getting creamed so badly in this one.

    Monferno didn't even beat Electabuzz when it evolved, even with Blaze active. Ursaring defeated 3 of Ash's pokemon in total(Buisel, Starraptor, Pikachu).
     
  4. Ash-kid

    Ash-kid Ash-kid

    6-2 tp Paul. unbelievable
     
  5. JD

    JD .

    Well we shouldnt really be upset by ash,s lost we got monferno and thats all we couldd ask for. And b the way so gliscor lost to torterra right and poor pikachu got pummeled
     
  6. dman_dustin

    dman_dustin Well-Known Member

    I'm just going to copy and paste what I thought of the episode from another thread. Slightly edited for content.

    And alas other trainers of course don't get to use Deus Ex Machina, as that only applies to the protagonists. So whatever.
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    I am not pleased with this battle, personally I think it's a bunch of bull, but no one would agree with me.

    6-2 is just bull, even with Paul's reserves, Ursaring was caught at the start it was just ridiculous that it couldn't be knocked out. I mean dear god how many hits did it take before going down.

    And Electabuzz, oh so what Dig isn't a ground type move, therefore super effective. The flame body and the thunderbolt/Electric Attack paralysis was way too convenient for Paul. I mean why don't they make more use of it, why just randomly put it in just because it could happen that way.

    And even after Blaze, Monferno couldn't knock out Electabuzz.

    Writers if you're going to portray someone as powerful, you better do it from the beginning, none of this pulling crap out of your hat just because its convenient for you.
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    And again of course it doesn't matter what I say, because nothing would come of it from complaining.
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    If I have to find anything good about this battle, it's the animation and Monferno vs Electabuzz (before Monferno lost). I was actually pretty pleased with the battle, until Monferno had to go and get knocked out.

    Poor Ash, falls victim to the writers' schemes all the time.
     
  7. Durden

    Durden .

    Quite an awesome battle. Much better than last week - thanks to Takeshi/Reiji/Hikari shutting up this time. This resulted in 20 minutes non-stop Iwane battle action :D

    Man, that Ringuma swept half of Satoshi's team. Not to mention Dodaitose's pwnage of Glion. One Frenzy Plant and it was gone, amusing.

    And Electabuzz is such a cheat0r - not only has it Protect to spam every time Satoshi launches an attack, but Light Screen too which carries on to the next pokemon as well. OP? YES

    Thanks music editors for ditching Symphonic Medley for "Stopping the Water" from M5 as the official comeback song.

    Now I'm hoping the next Shinji ep is the ultimately desired Shinji vs Shigeru and it'd be perfect. ^^
     
  8. BirdStaraptor

    BirdStaraptor Sinnoh Master

    Did Ash ever lose that badly before?? he must evolve all of his pokemon or he better uses his reserve pokemon in the league.

    Monferno has an awesome design.
     
  9. slowkingsley

    slowkingsley Well-Known Member

    Ash really did get beaten badly. At least he got Monferno out of the experience.

    And any time this happens has got to be good.
     
  10. An00bis

    An00bis Wicked Witch

    Yep; he showed us.

    Really surprised by how much of a vital member Yogi's become to the Team. When he was first caught it seemed all but certain that he'd be dumped even before Paul's next appearance but he's sticking around for the long run for a previous inexplicable reason. Now and now we know why.

    That's how Light Screen works. It protects the Team for a few turns (minutes), not just the user. Same with Barrier.
     
    Last edited: Jun 18, 2009
  11. ElectricArbok

    ElectricArbok Arbok rulez

    Oh my god! Light Screen does not protect the user or the rest of their team! It only raises defense!

    Anyway, it sucks how Gliscor went down. Gliscor could have beaten Torterra if it wasn't such a ditz. That Ursaring was as bad of a terrorist as Abomasnow. Of course his best friend (sarcasticly), Chimchar could take him down. I just can't believe Monferno couldn't beat Electabuzz...

    ...It would have been cool to see a Falcon Punch.
     
  12. dman_dustin

    dman_dustin Well-Known Member

    True it does only raises the defense but what better way to show this then reducing the damage to zero, until it wears off.
     
  13. Dax

    Dax R.I.P Dax

    Wow! And I thought Monferno was going to get glory!

    At least my favorite two got wins but this is one embarrassing lost for Ash. I thought Monferno was going to be unstoppable.
     
  14. bigpop618

    bigpop618 Dragon Trainer

    A loss this badly can only mean one thing. Ash is going to get some development that a lot of you serebiiers have cried for.

    What you are talking about is Reflect. Light Screen raises Special Defense
     
    Last edited: Jun 18, 2009
  15. ChaosMage

    ChaosMage Izit cuz I is black?

    Damn, that's steep. I at least thought from the preview Monferno would ice Electabuzz... I'm now more sure than before that he will indeed evolve again before the final battle between Ash and Paul
     
  16. cloudk

    cloudk hates you.

    Monferno looks pretty cool and powerful in this episode. I especially liked that Flame Wheel it performed on Electabuzz(First post, right collumn, 3rd from the top).

    Looks like Ash will get some development time and possibly some hardcore pokemon training. Maybe this is where his pokemon will learn new moves, though it's just a random guess from me.

    I hated how Flame Body and Paralysis activated to Paul's convinience though. That's just way too bias in favour of Paul. Well, at least Dawn and the idoits shutted up most of the time.
     
  17. Devastator1

    Devastator1 Well-Known Member

    Even though ash lost, he put up a great fight even when the odds were against him and for that he deserves some props. the episode was great, especially the part where monferno evolved and did that mach punch towards paul. I know ash team is improving but this episode just prove what a long way they still have to go. It'd be interesting to see how they develop his team and dawns in the limited amount of episodes we have left.
     
  18. dman_dustin

    dman_dustin Well-Known Member

    Even Pikachu's static worked in favor of Paul (Ursaring's Guts). This was so stacked against Ash it wasn't funny. It's as if the writers couldn't come up with a real way for Ursaring/Magmortar (added because it limited Pikachu more than normal)/Electabuzz to beat Ash's Pokemon without using abilities/statuses.

    And even still this battle was a bunch of bull also because now they're focusing on abilities/statuses. The last time Pikachu's static worked (as far as I know) was Roark. The last time Chimchar activated Blaze was before Crasher Wake. I wish they were consistent rather than some plot point so the match is favorable to one person over the other.

    Because I could've see Magmortar/Ursaring/Electabuzz losing quite simply without some cheapness involved. Well okay the exception being Magmortar (the match with it was weird) but without Ursaring's Guts, Pikachu's Burn, Pikachu could've won that match easily. And if Monferno wasn't affected by paralysis, Monferno would've beaten Electabuzz.

    Really stacked against Ash.
     
  19. Shego

    Shego 90% Kissshipper

    It is true. Poor Ash, after putting a great fight. His Monferno got badly beaten. Now Ash lost three times to Paul. But this better be the last time. When Ash and Pikachu next him in the Sinnoh League, make sure Paul loses.
     
  20. kemal07

    kemal07 Well-Known Member

    To me this was a very CHEAP 2 part episode.
    Ridiculous!!
    atleast make it Ash win like 3 of his pokemon
     

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