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Ev's and why I hate them.
- Thread starter jacobii
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Excitable Boy
is a metaphor
EV training isn't any more time consuming than training by blindly killing whatever appears in front of you.
If anything, it goes a lot faster than the method you seem to prefer, provided you know what you're doing.
If anything, it goes a lot faster than the method you seem to prefer, provided you know what you're doing.
I do know how to Ev train. If I didn't, how would I know that it's time consumming?
Excitable Boy
is a metaphor
If you think EV training is time-consuming, you're doing it wrong.
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randomspot555
Well-Known Member
If you find it confusing, don't do it. But don't say it's too time consuming. It takes 10 minutes to do one Pokemon, and I've made several teams in under an hour.
There are EV reducing berries for that.
There are EV reducing berries for that.
I know about the berries. I mean give us the freedom to modify them like we could on Netbattle.
Excitable Boy
is a metaphor
They should also let us alter our Pokemon's IVs directly, rather than forcing us to waste all that time learning RNG abuse.
Come to think of it, why haven't they let us create custom Pokemon out of hammerspace yet? I mean, they have it on NetBattle and PO.
randomspot555
Well-Known Member
Because Pokemon the game has to have mechanics that work in the entire Pokemon universe. NetBattle only simulates person-vs-person online battling.
There are ways to modify EVs, and it's not hard to open up a Google Doc and keep track of it manually.
Kelz
More saving. More doing.™
'Cuz if you're trying to do somthing you're no good at (not saying you are), then that will make the task tedious and time consuming.
Gelatino95
Not a tool
EV training is NOT time consuming at all. All you have to do is make sure you've got all the stuff you need, and you're all set. It really shouldn't take a long time if you're doing it right. Once you get all the EVs in, just power-level the pokemon by attaching an Exp. Share to it and battling Morimoto or Cynthia. That's what I do, and I'm done with it in a very short amount of time.
Or I don't know, maybe you're just impatient.
Or I don't know, maybe you're just impatient.
DrasticPhase
Half ded
Wait,do you have the power items to boost the EVs?
Because if you dont have any power items,it is alot of work.also,do you use the vitamins?like the protein and such.the vitamins give 10EV points each so if you use 10,you get 100 EV points
Heres are some examples
you are EV training in attack so you need to go to patrats and lillipups.
Patrat and lillipups give one EV in attack
No vitamins and no power items=252 patrats/lillipups
no vitamins with power items=50 and 2 w/o power item
vitamins(10) and no power items=152
vitamins(10) with power item=30 and 2 w/o power item
do you see the difference?
Sorry if it is confusing
Because if you dont have any power items,it is alot of work.also,do you use the vitamins?like the protein and such.the vitamins give 10EV points each so if you use 10,you get 100 EV points
Heres are some examples
you are EV training in attack so you need to go to patrats and lillipups.
Patrat and lillipups give one EV in attack
No vitamins and no power items=252 patrats/lillipups
no vitamins with power items=50 and 2 w/o power item
vitamins(10) and no power items=152
vitamins(10) with power item=30 and 2 w/o power item
do you see the difference?
Sorry if it is confusing
Blue Harvest
Banned
EV training takes a half hour tops.. compared to .. what, 10 hours to get a Pokemon to level 100?
And don't forget about pokerus! That doubles the EVs gained from every battle!
So pokerus + power item = 25 w/ power item and 1 w/o power item
It takes about an hour tops if you have the Power Items, even with no vitamins and no Pokerus. With vitamins, it usually only takes me like half an hour.
Say you need 252 in a certain STAT. If you can find something that gives +2 and has a high appearance rate, each kill with the right power item will give you +6. That's about 40 wins, which often just means going through all your PP, going to a Pokemon Center once, and then coming back.
But uuuuusually, I'll throw a lot of vitamins in first. Then that same Pokemon only needs about twenty wins to complete training in that STAT, which takes no time at all.
After that, the new experience system makes it a breeze to catch the Pokemon up to level 50 or 60 with Exp. Share and switching out. It's only for the last thirty or so levels that things get tedious.
Say you need 252 in a certain STAT. If you can find something that gives +2 and has a high appearance rate, each kill with the right power item will give you +6. That's about 40 wins, which often just means going through all your PP, going to a Pokemon Center once, and then coming back.
But uuuuusually, I'll throw a lot of vitamins in first. Then that same Pokemon only needs about twenty wins to complete training in that STAT, which takes no time at all.
After that, the new experience system makes it a breeze to catch the Pokemon up to level 50 or 60 with Exp. Share and switching out. It's only for the last thirty or so levels that things get tedious.
Because the online simulators don't capture a major aspect of the games: discrepancies in effort. The actual Pokemon metagame is about strategy, luck and effort (training, breeding and raising). The simulators remove a full third of that equation to create a very different experience that the actual franchise will never support.
Although I will say these are currently way too hard to come by to be useful.
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Well if you're in the right area then EV training can be really quick, for example Route 1 Unova for Attack EV training. It's the same principle as fighting wild Pokemon, except it's more selective.
And besides, nothing worth having comes easy
Nice.
Excitable Boy
is a metaphor
Thank you. That was some of my finest work.
Flame Mistress
Well-Known Member
Yes, it is time consuming. Thankfully I have a small group of slaves helpers who do all the hard work for me. =)