Expanded Pokedex Discussion Thread [Read First Post]

[Wulava]

Discuss and speculate about the EXPANDED POKEDEX Black 2 and White 2.
This includes both Gen V and non-Gen V Pokemon that will be available in the game.

All posts, whether speculation or not, should be constructive and contain ideas, support/elaborate their ideas, and must contribute to the discussions and/or on-going arguments. One-liner posts such as "I agree.", "I want [this] to be in the game!", "This sucks!" will all be considered spam and will be deleted.

Also, please refrain from talking about the RS remakes and the inclusion of Hoenn in the games!

Discussion of the said topics are not allowed and will be considered SPAM.

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Please refer to the main site's B2W2 Unova Dex.
Or you can use the list below for quick reference. :3

The list below shows the earliest locations where you can encounter each Pokemon within the Unova Dex. So please keep in mind that I did not include all the locations where a specific Pokemon can be found.

Spoiler: Unova Dex Locations

000. Victini - Event
001. Snivy - Starter
002. Servine - Evolve Snivy
003. Serperior - Evolve Serperior
004. Tepig - Starter
005. Pignite - Evolve Pignite
006. Emboar - Evolve Emboar
007. Oshawott - Starter
008. Dewott - Evolve Dewott
009. Samurott - Evolve Samurott
010. Patrat - Routes 19-20
011. Watchog - Routes 7, 1-3
012. Purrloin - Route 19-20
013. Liepard - Route 5, 16
014. Pidove - Route 20, Sangi Ranch
015. Tranquill - Routes 6-7, 12
016. Unfezant - Routes 6-7, 13
017. Sewaddle - Route 20
018. Swadloon - Route 6, Lostlorn Forest
019. Leavanny - Route 6, Lostlorn Forest [Shaking Grass]
020. Sunkern - Route 20
021. Sunflora - Evolve Sunkern
022. Lillipup - Sangi Ranch
023. Herdier - Routes 1-3
024. Stoutland - Routes 1-3 [Shaking Grass]
025. Mareep - Sangi Ranch
026. Flaaffy - EvolveMareep
027. Ampharos - Evolve Flaaffy
028. Psyduck - Sangi Ranch
029. Golduck - Route 14, 11, 22-23
030. Azurill - Sangi Ranch
031. Marill - Routes 6, 11, 22
032. Azumarill - Routes 6, 11, 22 [Shaking Grass]
033. Riolu - Sangi Ranch
034. Lucario - Evolve riolu
035. Dunsparce - Route 20, Sangi Ranch [Shaking Grass]
036. Audino - Shaking Grass
037. Pansage - Lostlorn Forest [Shaking Grass]
038. Simisage - EvolvePansage
039. Pansear - Lostlorn Forest [Shaking Grass]
040. Simisear - Evolve Simisear
041. Panpour - Lostlorn Forest [Shaking Grass]
042. Simipour - Evolve Simipour
043. Venipede - Route 20
044. Whirlipede - Lostlorn Forest
045. Scolipede - Pinwheel Forest [Shaking Grass]
046. Koffing - Tachiwaki Combinator
047. Weezing - P2 Lab
048. Magnemite - Tachiwaki Combinator
049. Magneton - P2 Lab
050. Magnezone - P2 Lab [Shaking Grass]
051. Growlithe - Tachiwaki Combinator
052. Arcanine - Evolve Growlithe
053. Magby - Tachiwaki Combinator (Black 2)
054. Magmar - Evolve Maby
055. Magmortar - Evolve Magmar
056. Elekid - Tachiwaki Combinator (White 2)
057. Electabuzz - EvolveElekid
058. Electivire - EvolveElectabuzz
059. Rattata - Castelia Sewers, Castelia Park
060. Raticate - Strangers House, Relic Path
061. Zubat - Castelia Sewers
062. Golbat - Strangers House
063. Crobat - Dreamyard [Shaking Grass]
064. Grimer - Castelia Sewers
065. Muk - Castelia Sewers (Surf) [Surf Spot], Route 9
066. Woobat - Relic Path, Rebirth Mountain, Seaside Save, Mistralton Cave, Twist Mountain
067. Swoobat - Evolve Woobat
068. Roggenrola - Relic Path
069. Boldore - Relic Path, and most caves
070. Gigalith - Evolve Boldore
071. Onix - Relic Path, Victory Road, Clay Road, Twist Mountain
072. Steelix - Clay Road, Twist Mountain [Dust Cloud]
073. Timburr - Relic Path
074. Gurdurr - Relic Path, Victory Road, Twist Mountain
075. Conkeldurr - Evolve Conkeldurr
076. Drilbur - Relic Path, Chargestone Cave, Mistralton Cave
077. Excadrill - Rebirth Mountain, Seaside Cave, Giant Chasm, Victory Road, Clay Road, Twist Mountain [Dust Cloud]
078. Skitty - Castelia Park (White 2)
079. Delcatty - Castelia Park (White 2) [Shaking Grass]
080. Buneary - Castelia Park (Black 2)
081. Lopunny - Castelia Park (Black 2) [Shaking Grass]
082. Cottonee - Castelia Park, Lostlorn Forest (Black 2)
083. Whimsicott - Castelia Park, Lostlorn Forest (Black 2) [Shaking Grass]
084. Petilil - Castelia Park, Lostlorn Forest (White 2)
085. Lilligant - Castelia Park, Lostlorn Forest (White 2) [Shaking Grass]
086. Munna - Dreamyard
087. Musharna - Dreamyard
088. Cleffa - Breed Clefairy/Clefable
089. Clefairy - Giant Chasm [Shaking Grass]
090. Clefable - Giant Chasm
091. Eevee - Castelia Park
092. Vaporeon - Evolve Eevee
093. Jolteon - Evolve Eevee
094. Flareon - Evolve Eevee
095. Espeon - Evolve Eevee
096. Umbreon - Evolve Eevee
097. Leafeon - Evolve Eevee
098. Glaceon - Evolve Eevee
099. Sandile - Route 4, Desert Resort, Relic Castle
100. Krokorok - Relic Castle
101. Krookodile - evolve Krokorok
102. Darumaka - Route 4, Desert Resort
103. Darmanitan - Evolve Darumaka
104. Basculin - Everywhere there's water (Surf, Fish)
105. Trubbish - Routes 4-5, 16
106. Garbodor - Route 9
107. Minccino - Routes 5, 16
108. Cinccino - Routes 5, 17 [Shaking Grass]
109. Rufflet - Route 23 (White 2)
110. Braviary - Evolve Rufflet
111. Vullaby - Route 23 (Black 2)
112. Mandibuzz - Evolve Vullaby; Route 4 (Interactable - Thursday only; Black 2)
113. Sandshrew - Desert Resort, Relic Castle
114. Sandslash - Relic Castle, Route 15
115. Dwebble - Desert Resort
116. Crustle - Route 18
117. Scraggy - Route 4, Desert Resort
118. Scrafty - Route 15
119. Maractus - Desert Resort
120. Sigilyph - Desert Resort
121. Trapinch - Desert Resort, Rebirth Mountain
122. Vibrava - Rebirth Mountain
123. Flygon - Evolve Vibrava
124. Yamask - Relic Castle
125. Cofagrigus - Evolve Yamask
126. Tirtouga - Nacrene City (Cover Fossil; Gift Pokemon)
127. Carracosta - Evolve Carracosta
128. Archen - Nacrene City (Cover Fossil; Gift Pokemon)
129. Archeops - Evolve Archen
130. Klink - Chargestone Cave
131. Klang - P2 Lab
132. Klinklang - P2 Lab [Shaking Grass]
133. Budew - Breed Roselia
134. Roselia - Lostlorn Forest
135. Roserade - Lostlorn Forest, Route 12, Victory Road [Shaking Grass]
136. Gothita - Route 5, 16, Strangers House (Black 2)
137. Gothorita - Strangers House, Route 9 (Black 2)
138. Gothitelle - Route 9 (Black 2) [Shaking Grass]
139. Solosis - Route 5, 16, Strangers House (White 2)
140. Duosion - Strangers House, Route 9 (White 2)
141. Reuniclus - Route 9 (White 2) [Shaking Grass]
142. Combee - Lostlorn Forest
143. Vespiquen - Lostlorn Forest, Route 12 [Shaking Grass]
144. Emolga - Routes 5, 16, Lostlorn Forest [Shaking Grass]
145. Heracross - Lostlorn Forest (Black 2)
146. Pinsir - Lostlorn Forest (White 2)
147. Blitzle - Breed Zebstrika
148. Zebstrika - Routes 7, 3
149. Buizel - Routes 14, 23, Lostlorn Forest (All Surf)
150. Floatzel - Routes 14, 23, Lostlorn Forest (All Surf) [Surf Spot]
151. Zorua - Driftveil City (Gift Pokemon)
152. Zoroark - Evolve Zorua
153. Ducklett - Drifveil Bridge
154. Swanna - Marvelous Bridge
155. Karrablast - Route 6, 11, 8*, Icirrus City*, Moor of Icirrus* (*Unobtainable in Winter)
156. Escavalier - Evolve Karrablast
157. Shelmet - Route 6, 11, 8*, Icirrus City*, Moor of Icirrus* (*Unobtainable in Winter)
158. Accelgor - Evolve Shelmet
159. Deerling - Route 6-7
160. Sawsbuck - Dragonspiral Tower
161. Foongus - Routes 6-7
162. Amoonguss - Routes 11, 22-23
163. Castform - Route 6 [Shaking Grass]
164. Nosepass - Chargestone Cave, Clay Road
165. Probopass - Evolve Nosepass
166. Aron - Mistralton Cave
167. Lairon - Clay Road
168. Aggron - EvolveLairon
169. Baltoy - Relic Castle
170. Claydol - EvolveBaltoy
171. Larvesta - Breed Volcarona
172. Volcarona - Relic Castle (Interactable)
173. Joltik - Chargestone Cave
174. Galvantula - Evolve Joltik
175. Ferroseed - Chargestone Cave
176. Ferrothorn - Evolve Ferroseed
177. Tynamo - Chargestone Cave, Seaside Save
178. Eelektrik - Seaside Cave
179. Eelektross - Evolve Eelektrik
180. Frillish - Route 4, 13, 21, Undella Town, Undella Bay, Seigaiha City (All Surf)
181. Jellicent - Route 4, 13, 21, Undella Town, Undella Bay, Seigaiha City (All Surf) [Surf Spot]
182. Alomomola - Route 4, 21 (All Surf) [Surf Spot]
183. Axew - Mistralton Cave
184. Fraxure - Evolve Axew
185. Haxorus - Evolve Fraxure
186. Zangoose - Routes 7, 11, Village Bridge
187. Seviper - Routes 7, 11, Village Bridge
188. Elgyem - Celestial Tower
189. Beheeyem - Evolve Elgyem
190. Litwick - Celestial Tower, Strangers House
191. Lampent - Evolve Litwick
192. Chandelure - Evolve Lampent
193. Heatmor - Twist Mountain
194. Durant - Twist Mountain, Clay Road
195. Cubchoo - Route 7 (Winter only)
196. Beartic - Dragonspiral Tower (Winter only), Twist Mountain
197. Cryogonal - Twist Mountain
198. Tornadus - Dream Radar
199. Thundurus - Dream Radar
200. Landorus - Dream Radar
201. Skorupi - Rebirth Mountain
202. Drapion - Evolve Skorupi
203. Skarmory - Rebirth Mountain
204. Numel - Rebirth Mountain (White 2)
205. Camerupt - Rebirth Mountain (White 2)
206. Spoink - Rebirth Mountain (Black 2)
207. Grumpig - Rebirth Mountain (Black 2)
208. Drifloon - breed Drifblim
209. Drifblim - Routes 13-14, Rebirth Mountain
210. Shuppet - Breed Banette
211. Banette - Strangers House, Victory Road
212. Wingull - Breed Pelipper
213. Pelipper - Routes 13, 22, Giant Chasm
214. Lunatone - Routes 13, 22, Giant Chasm
215. Solrock - Routes 13, 22, Giant Chasm
216. Absol - Routes 13-14
217. Tangela - Route 13, Giant Chasm
218. Tangrowth - Route 13, Giant Chasm [Shaking Grass]
219. Mienfoo - Routes 14, 22-23, Dragonspiral Tower (Winter only)
220. Mienshao - Route 23, Dragonspiral Tower
221. Gligar - Routes 11, 15, 23
222. Gliscor - Routes 11, 15, 23 [Shaking Grass]
223. Pawniard - Route 9
224. Bisharp - Evolve Pawniard
225. Cobalion - Route 13 (Interactable)
226. Terrakion - Route 22 (Interactable)
227. Virizion - Route 11 (Interactable)
228. Tympole - Breed Palpitoad
229. Palpitoad - Route 8, Icirrus City*, Moor of Icirrus* (*Unobtainable in Winter), PinwheelForest
230. Seismitoad - Route 8, Icirrus City, Moor of Icirrus (All Surf), Pinwheel Forest [Shaking Grass]
231. Stunfisk - Route 8, Icirrus City, Moor of Icirrus (All Surf and Fish only during Winter)
232. Shuckle - Seaside Cave
233. Mantyke - Route 21, Undella Bay* (*Unobtainable in Winter; All Surf)
234. Mantine - Route 21, Undella Bay* (*Unobtainable in Winter; All Surf) [Surf Spot]
235. Remoraid - Route 21, Undella Bay (All Surf and Fish)
236. Octillery - Route 21, Undella Bay (All Fish only) [Fish Spot]
237. Corsola - Seigaiha City (Surf) [Surf Spot]
238. Staryu - Route 13, Undella Town, Seigaiha City (All Surf)
239. Starmie - Route 13, Undella Town, Seigaiha City (All Surf) [Surf Spot]
240. Wailmer - Undella Bay (Surf)
241. Wailord - Undella Bay (Surf) [Surf Spot]
242. Lapras - Village Bridge (Surf) [Surf Spot]
243. Spheal - Undella Bay (Surf; Winter only)
244. Sealeo - Undella Bay (Surf; Winter only)
245. Walrein - Undella Bay (Surf; Winter only) [Surf Spot]
246. Swablu - Route 14, Abundant Shrine
247. Altaria - Route 14, Abundant Shrine
248. Vulpix - Abundant Shrine
249. Ninetales - Abundant Shrine [Shaking Grass]
250. Bronzor - Abundant Shrine
251. Bronzong - Abundant Shrine
252. Sneasel - Giant Chasm
253. Weavile - Evolve Sneasel
254. Delibird - Route 22, Giant Chasm
255. Vanillite - Breed Vanilish
256. Vanillish - Giant Chasm, Dragonspiral Tower (Winter only)
257. Vanilluxe - Giant Chasm, Dragonspiral Tower (Winter only) [Shaking Grass]
258. Swinub - Breed Piloswine
259. Piloswine - Giant Chasm
260. Mamoswine - Giant Chasm [Shaking Grass]
261. Ditto - Giant Chasm
262. Beldum - Breed Metang
263. Metang - Giant Chasm
264. Metagross - Giant Chasm [Shaking Grass]
265. Seel - Seaside Cave, Giant Chasm (All Surf)
266. Dewgong - Seaside Cave, Giant Chasm (All Surf) [Surf Spot]
267. Throh - Routes 15, 23, Victory Road
268. Sawk - Routes 15, 23, Victory Road
269. Bouffalant - Route 23
270. Druddigon - Victory Road, Dragonspiral Tower
271. Golett - Breed Golurk
272. Golurk - Victory Road, Dragonspiral Tower
273. Deino - Breek Zweilous
274. Zweilous - Victory Road
275. Hydreigon - Evolve Hydreigon
276. Slakoth - Breed Vigoroth/Slaking
277. Vigoroth - Pinwheel Forest
278. Slaking - Pinwheel Forest [Shaking Grass]
279. Corphish - Route 3, Striaton City (All Surf)
280. Crawdaunt - Route 3, Striaton City (All Surf) [Surf Spot]
281. Igglybuff - Breed Jigglypuff/Wigglytuff
282. Jigglypuff - Routes 1-2, Dreamyard
283. Wigglytuff - Routes 1-2, Dreamyard [Shaking Grass]
284. Lickitung - Route 2
285. Lickilicky - Route 2 [Shaking Grass]
286. Yanma - Route 3, Pinwheel Forest
287. Yanmega - Route 3, Pinwheel Forest [Shaking Grass]
288. Tropius - Route 18
289. Carnivine - Route 18
290. Croagunk - Route 8, Icirrus City, Moor of Icirrus (All Unobtainable in Winter)
291. Toxicroak - Pinwheel Forest
292. Larvitar - Breed Pupitar/Tyranitar
293. Pupitar - Route 15
294. Tyranitar - Route 15 [Shaking Grass]
295. Reshiram - Dragonspiral Tower (Interactable; Bring the Light Stone from N)
296. Zekrom - Dragonspiral Tower (Interactable; Bring the Dark Stone from N)
297. Kyurem - Giant Chasm (Interactable)
298. Keldeo - Event
299. Meloetta - Event
300. Genesect - Event

 

[BroaddySN]

Well I am very happy to see that Lapras will be available in the Unova Dex this time around. I love that Pokemon. As well as Marill, Arcanine, and Weavile! I’m never a fan of seeing the older gens with the newer ones because it just looks… off to me, but I like that they don’t seem to be picking the same old Pokemon to be here. They’re making Eevee more common, also Metagross, etc. and picking the Pokemon that were never around newer regions that much before.

And that new pic finally got rid of those crazy thoughts of getting new starters in this game.

 

[pyzirikov]

Possibly more ice types would be included as even though the map might not actually be covered in ice; there is a good chance that there would be a snow area.
Such as snorunt and swinub.

 

[Angeltripper]

Sweet, Lucario and Espeon I'd love to see Crobat be in the region dex

 

[DMerle]

Sweet, Lucario and Espeon I'd love to see Crobat be in the region dex

That'd mean Zubat, no thanks.

 

[Rudruma]

The so far confirmed choices are quite extraordinary, considering that usually pokemon that are included yet did not debut in that generations Pokedex are quite lame, the inclusion of pokemon like Lucario and Tyranitar are just quite extraordinary, would'nt you agree?

 

[BroaddySN]

The so far confirmed choices are quite extraordinary, considering that usually pokemon that are included yet did not debut in that generations Pokedex are quite lame, the inclusion of pokemon like Lucario and Tyranitar are just quite extraordinary, would'nt you agree?

I completely agree. I'm glad to see they're spicing up the mixed-generations-in-a-region thing with unique Pokemon such as Lapras, Metagross, and Eevee. Because up until now I wasn't too fond of mixed gens because they just mixed the bad old ones with the bad new ones i.e Geodude and Bidoof or something.

 

[pyzirikov]

The inclusion of earlier generation legendary Pokemon seems apparent as well.
A trio most likely as well.
Platinum had the birds.
Heart Gold/Soul Silver already had the beasts.
My guess is either the golems or the guardians.
;430;

 

[Rudruma]

I'm thinking the gen I to IV pokemon could possibly feature in the rivals, villains teamin Pokemon bw2?

 

[Wulava]

The inclusion of earlier generation legendary Pokemon seems apparent as well.
A trio most likely as well.
Platinum had the birds.
Heart Gold/Soul Silver already had the beasts.
My guess is either the golems or the guardians.
;430;

I think BW2 will give us the Gen IV Legendaries.
Save the Gen 3 for you know what's coming.

 

[BroaddySN]

The inclusion of earlier generation legendary Pokemon seems apparent as well.
A trio most likely as well.
Platinum had the birds.
Heart Gold/Soul Silver already had the beasts.
My guess is either the golems or the guardians.
;430;

Platinum also had the Regis. If anything it would be Mesprit, Azelf, and Uxie. But seeing those in Unova would seem out of place. As I said somewhere else, all of the water stuff going on in Unova makes me see Manaphy and Phione appearing in one or another if an older legendary return, but I would prefer they didn't. Unova legendaries are enough.

 

[R_N]

I think BW2 will give us the Gen IV Legendaries.
Save the Gen 3 for you know what's coming.

Pt had the birds despite HGSS also having the birds
Double dipping on the golems can work just fine.

 

[Torpoleon]

I'm thinking the gen I to IV pokemon could possibly feature in the rivals, villains teamin Pokemon bw2?

It would seem weird for the older Pokémon to be in the regional Pokédex, but not featured in battles against the rival, villainous team, Gym Leaders, Elite Four and possibly even the Champion. Of course we should expect it for regular trainer battles as well. Platinum had trainers with Pokémon added in Platinum's new dex.

 

[kemal07]

I really hope we get the Spheal and Feebas lines... is there a high chance for this at all (just to make me feel hopeful -.-

 

[Tavo_Zx]

I think that the Pokémon available post-E4 in BW will be available in BW2. Out of allthose I really hope to see Vulpix, and if it is in-game I hope it is catchable early in the game.

 

[Torpoleon]

Pt had the birds despite HGSS also having the birds
Double dipping on the golems can work just fine.

Now I'm starting to think we could see the Golems here as normal legendaries, not as events, like in Platinum. In Platinum, wasn't the only way to get the golems from an event Regigigas? So, the only way to get them without events is in RSE.

 

[Trainer Frankie]

That'd mean Zubat, no thanks.

Right. We have wubat to replace zubat in Unova and roggenrola to replace geodudes.

I liked the only new pokemon in Unova and was dissapointed when old ones appeared post main story. They make seem like none are there, when in actually, they're just in a part not available yet. Also thought it was weird that there were pikachu theme things in Unova from topiaries to that big one in Nimbasa. >.>

 

[Wulava]

I think that the Pokémon available post-E4 in BW will be available in BW2. Out of allthose I really hope to see Vulpix, and if it is in-game I hope it is catchable early in the game.

I think majority of them.
The revealed Pokemon so far is a mixture of Dream World-exclusives, White Forest-exclusives, post-Unova obtainables, and unobtainables.

I liked the only new pokemon in Unova and was dissapointed when old ones appeared post main story. They make seem like none are there, when in actually, they're just in a part not available yet. Also thought it was weird that there were pikachu theme things in Unova from topiaries to that big one in Nimbasa. >.>

Pretty sure Pikachu will be part of the expansion.

 

[ArmyOfOneIX]

pokedex needs a scan ability for wild encounters

 

[jwla]

I am hoping to see some more non-fishing water-types. Like Poliwag, or something else... I'd say in a wet area, but Icirrus seems to be frozen. It seems some of these expanded Pokedex Pokemon (the ones show so far) have migrated down ahead of the deep freeze. Maybe some of those will appear, like Cubone/Marowak.