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Fainting and Passing Out
- Thread starter HydroSwampert
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Regardless of "fainting" or "blacking out" it's all SYNCOPE and anyone who has experienced one needs to be fully evaluated for cardiac and neurological issues.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syncope_(medicine)
FWIW: vasovagal simply means something stopped the blood from flowing properly through you; either to your heart or your brain. It could also be a nerve issue or even something spinal (my sister dropped out for 4 hours in the horse pasture alone at the farm - turns out she had Meningitis), but blood is more common.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasovagal_response
I'm a First Responder with 7 different certifications including Sports Medicine so believe me when I say the EMTs should never have told you that. It was reasonable given the circumstances, but they lack both the time and the equipment to make a formal/proper diagnosis. The immediate "at scene" care is the same, regardless, but snap Dx like that has a nasty habit of putting the patient on the wrong track down the line.
With a known cardiac issue you should be permanently exempt from PE and all competitive sports. Too many kids are dropping dead on the field for undiagnosed conditions to risk one known to have such.
I dropped out running laps with my soccer team in the 7th grade (middle school) and we chalked it up to heat exhaustion - Florida in August and I was only out for maybe 2-3 minutes. It wasn't until nearly 5 years later that a doctor finally sent me for a workup (I was having "stamina issues", again with soccer). Turns out I have not 1, but TWO heart conditions. Both mild, and neither requires medication, but they are no less dangerous. My school freaked out over PE and also tried to kick me out of JROTC (after I already completed 1 1/2 years of it). We swapped Band for PE, but almost had to sue over modifications to JROTC PT. I gave up a LOT of sports, but I refused to give up my horses. I well knew the risks to me if I fell off, but ... if you know how badly horses can get in your system you'll know why I couldn't step down - it's hard to explain to a non-horsey person. 6 years later I was also diagnosed with an atypical seizure disorder and in the year after that a form of muscular dystrophy. 2 years later I got certified for Emergency Response; the only difference between me and an Ambulance EMT is that I can't intubate or run an IV (I CAN deliver a baby, fwiw).
Do not ignore dropping out just because you were dehydrated or hot or overtired. That's a mistake that might cost you Big.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syncope_(medicine)
FWIW: vasovagal simply means something stopped the blood from flowing properly through you; either to your heart or your brain. It could also be a nerve issue or even something spinal (my sister dropped out for 4 hours in the horse pasture alone at the farm - turns out she had Meningitis), but blood is more common.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasovagal_response
I'm a First Responder with 7 different certifications including Sports Medicine so believe me when I say the EMTs should never have told you that. It was reasonable given the circumstances, but they lack both the time and the equipment to make a formal/proper diagnosis. The immediate "at scene" care is the same, regardless, but snap Dx like that has a nasty habit of putting the patient on the wrong track down the line.
I've fainted twice. Once in fourth grade that I don't remember what happened. I also fainted last month in science class. I fainted because I have a heart problem and my heart rate went up really high, then dropped really low in short amount of time. I was reading the science textbook, and my head felt heavy, and my vision went black. I went out, fell off my chair, hit my head on the desk and got a concussion. One of my friends thought I was dead.I'm not allowed to have PE because my concussion STILL isn't healed.
With a known cardiac issue you should be permanently exempt from PE and all competitive sports. Too many kids are dropping dead on the field for undiagnosed conditions to risk one known to have such.
I dropped out running laps with my soccer team in the 7th grade (middle school) and we chalked it up to heat exhaustion - Florida in August and I was only out for maybe 2-3 minutes. It wasn't until nearly 5 years later that a doctor finally sent me for a workup (I was having "stamina issues", again with soccer). Turns out I have not 1, but TWO heart conditions. Both mild, and neither requires medication, but they are no less dangerous. My school freaked out over PE and also tried to kick me out of JROTC (after I already completed 1 1/2 years of it). We swapped Band for PE, but almost had to sue over modifications to JROTC PT. I gave up a LOT of sports, but I refused to give up my horses. I well knew the risks to me if I fell off, but ... if you know how badly horses can get in your system you'll know why I couldn't step down - it's hard to explain to a non-horsey person. 6 years later I was also diagnosed with an atypical seizure disorder and in the year after that a form of muscular dystrophy. 2 years later I got certified for Emergency Response; the only difference between me and an Ambulance EMT is that I can't intubate or run an IV (I CAN deliver a baby, fwiw).
Do not ignore dropping out just because you were dehydrated or hot or overtired. That's a mistake that might cost you Big.
Aegon
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I've fainted twice; both were due to great heat. I don't go particularly well with overly-hot days. It's not a nice feeling. :/
I laughed. I'm such a horrible person.
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☭Secret_Shocker☭
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Wonder how fainting feels? I only saw one do so once in my life. Although I almost fainted due to extreme fatigue, but luckily I didn't so... nice.
Mister_SGG
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Once my friend passed out when he got a vaccination at school. He hit his chin against a table when he fell, and we called him Chris Neil for a month and a half.
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My friend's sister passed out in class once... Only passing out I've ever been remotely related to.
Frozen Sunset
Ugh
I fainted yesterday because of exhaustion.....not really fun
I'm pretty glad to read Pokemom's response to this thread. It's also quite an honor to hear a stance on this topic from a professional who deals with the matter on the job. =D
I don't think I've ever either fainted or passed out, and I certainly take care not to do either now or in the future. Even when not underlied by serious cardiac or neurological problems, both fainting and passing out are the brain's/body's way of telling you something is extremely wrong with you.
This is why I am so critical of the alcohol culture of adolescence. I can't fathom what's going through the minds of the kids who say "I passed out at last night's party and woke up totally wrecked - I can't remember a thing. What a great night!" And the stupid part is that neither can the ones who say it.
In a pinch, I place significant blame on pop-cultural "icons" (as if such figures actually deserved a title that carries any implications of dignity or admirability) as Ke$ha, Lil' Wayne, and all the other musical rebels who manage to con insecure and impressionable young adults into placing positive social value on all things illicit and irresponsible.
I don't think I've ever either fainted or passed out, and I certainly take care not to do either now or in the future. Even when not underlied by serious cardiac or neurological problems, both fainting and passing out are the brain's/body's way of telling you something is extremely wrong with you.
This is why I am so critical of the alcohol culture of adolescence. I can't fathom what's going through the minds of the kids who say "I passed out at last night's party and woke up totally wrecked - I can't remember a thing. What a great night!" And the stupid part is that neither can the ones who say it.
In a pinch, I place significant blame on pop-cultural "icons" (as if such figures actually deserved a title that carries any implications of dignity or admirability) as Ke$ha, Lil' Wayne, and all the other musical rebels who manage to con insecure and impressionable young adults into placing positive social value on all things illicit and irresponsible.
Little_Pikachu
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I've had a couple of episodes, the first was when I was at work (at Burger King, go on, laugh it up, I'm a supervisor of a government quango now). I'd been feeling almost drunk all day, but I hadn't had any alcohol, then suddenly I just remember just feeling so dizzy and my head was spinning, next thing I knew I was in an ambulance. Someone stole my hat when I fell :\ I mean, how terrible is that, someone faints, potentially might be dead, and instead of helping them "Hey, cool, I got me a BK cap!".
I had tests and stuff afterwards because I'd been perfectly healthy with no family history of fainting, and they could never put their finger on an actual cause so put it down to some form of epilepsy (which is stupid if you know how many hours I've spent inches away from every flashy seizure inducing video game you can think of).
The next time anything happened I was actually in bed asleep, so I don't know if it counts as fainting, but I was with my boyfriend and apparently I must have had some kind of seizure while I was asleep. I've never had anything apart from those 2 instances, although recently I've been getting random dizzy spells for no apparent reason... Oh well.
I had tests and stuff afterwards because I'd been perfectly healthy with no family history of fainting, and they could never put their finger on an actual cause so put it down to some form of epilepsy (which is stupid if you know how many hours I've spent inches away from every flashy seizure inducing video game you can think of).
The next time anything happened I was actually in bed asleep, so I don't know if it counts as fainting, but I was with my boyfriend and apparently I must have had some kind of seizure while I was asleep. I've never had anything apart from those 2 instances, although recently I've been getting random dizzy spells for no apparent reason... Oh well.
blackterminator3
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I have fainted 4 times in my lifetime. The first time I fainted cause I use to starve myself to keep myself skinny which was a bad idea. The second time I fainted was when I at the park when I was 14 years old due to dehydration and someone drove me home. The third time I fainted was during a horror movie. The last time I fainted was 3 weeks ago when I was at the store once again hydrated and due to my low eating.
I have passed out one time out of my life is on the Date of December 21st 2011. I was at this Christmas Party for the neighborhood committee, I drunk like 2 giant cups of whine and I passed, more like blacked out cause of the drunk level I was at.
I have passed out one time out of my life is on the Date of December 21st 2011. I was at this Christmas Party for the neighborhood committee, I drunk like 2 giant cups of whine and I passed, more like blacked out cause of the drunk level I was at.
That does sound like Seizures with Aura. Not every Seizure disorder is Epilepsy, though, nor are all seizures photoleptic (triggered by flashing lights). Depending on age it could be a Juvenile type and those carry the hope of someday "outgrowing" them. (Watch out for "ADD non-hyper"/"Inattentive-type ADHD" in kids...too many of them are actually Absence Seizures misdiagnosed)
Sleep Seizures are fairly uncommon and with the dizzy spells recurring I would strongly suggest you find a neurologist trained in unusual seizure disorders.
One thing a lot of people don't realize is that sleep walking, sleep talking, night terrors, and sneezing when you step into the sun are all forms of seizure disorders. Except for the risk of walking outside into traffic, they are all also usually benign.
TheAmazingAndrew
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I've never fainted, but sometimes I'm in bed and all tired, and my body goes limp like I fell asleep, and my eyes close, but I don't lose consciousness. It is not a pleasant feeling. (Once it made me drop my iPod on my face.) Luckily, it only lasts a second.