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February 19th: PM2019 056 - Elite Four Ganpi! The House of Chivalry!!

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dman_dustin

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So just because you never wanted Farfetch'd, it should be unceremoniously shipped off into offscreen land and be evolved in an episode it doesn't have proper focus. Wow

Blame the writers, they clearly can't give meaningful focus to Ash's Pokemon in terms of captures or evolution without either Go being part of it or some ither storyline.

Where was the outrage that Riolu didn't evolve in a focus episode? Farfetch'd deserves it more than Riolu? I mean I'd argue they both deserve more than what they're getting.

But remember Ash is the battler here. lets not waste quality on him, got to give it to Go.

When I said I didn't want Farfetch'd, it was I don''t care to be outraged. I've been out outraged at this point. I've expressed my dislike for the series in particular. In other words it was more of a "Why are you surprised Farfetch'd wouldn't get a focus episode to evolve?" I've been pointing this out since Korrina, nope just a Go hater, right? I'm just tired of everything and just want them to get to the point because I can barely handle the long stretches of nothingness for Ash. Just be glad its evolving onscreen, because I wouldn't be surprised if they did that to Ash because he's not Go after all he's been here for 20 years, can't do anything with him except battle occasionally.......again I'm just tired of this.
 

lolipiece

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And now people will told to me: "He does not butt in"

Come on... Your likeness for the character is blinding some of you.
Or, y'know, it was actually a Double Battle the whole time and we just assumed it was two separate one-on-ones. And for all we know, Scyther'll go down, making it a one-on-one anyway.
 
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PsychoLogical

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I hope farfetch'd doesn't evolve here then, it'd be weird for it to not have full focus, and I don't mind this farfetch'd arc to last a bit longer
I'm already doubting it'll evolve anyways. Im actually now more into Scyther doing the evolving instead since the armor it's wearing can technically serve as a Metal Coat.
 

Red and Blue

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Or, y'know, it was actually a Double Battle the whole time and we just assumed it was two separate one-on-ones. And for all we know, Scyther'll go down, making it a one-on-one anyway.
But if the double battle is reduced to a one on one then that would mean Escavalier would go down as well. It could be the first E4 Pokemon Ash defeats
 

Blue Saturday

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I'm already doubting it'll evolve anyways. Im actually now more into Scyther doing the evolving instead since the armor it's wearing can technically serve as a Metal Coat.
The fact that the praying mantis is literally clad in a Metal Coat, is fighting a Steel-Bug of its own, has swords for hands and being trained by a Steel-type specialist—man not evolving would such a kid in the teeth. Just do it son—been wanting a Hassam on the cast for a while. Seems like it’s only role in the show is a generic strong Pokémon to be fodderized.


I never thought Kamonegi was evolving here—mainly because it’s last episode established its issue of not being a true friend and teammate at the tail end. It just wouldn’t seem super likely or it to evolve here and suddenly the problem is fixed and they’re confronting Rinto in its next focus episode. I feel like it would evolve in the presence of Rinto/Erlade.
 

dman_dustin

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If Farfetch'd won't evolve at least learn a new move.
I never thought Kamonegi was evolving here—mainly because it’s last episode established its issue of not being a true friend and teammate at the tail end. It just wouldn’t seem super likely or it to evolve here and suddenly the problem is fixed and they’re confronting Rinto in its next focus episode. I feel like it would evolve in the presence of Rinto/Erlade.

I fail to see why given Farfetch'd's evolution method it makes more sense to get 3 critical hits on Elite Four member than someone presumably in Hyper/Ultra class.
 

blizzardblaze

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sometimes it's just a better idea to prolong things, but not to this extent. Ash should get more focus, agreed, but Go being here makes total sense. just tell me WHO on ashs' current team would benefit from sparring with a guy who's entire motif is being a chivalrous knight and also puts armor on? I don't think dragonite is going to cut it unless he has dragon armor, gengar is...special. it could just float out of the armor. and then poor dracovish...ok, just because people don't like a pokemon doesn't mean it doesn't have to be shafted permanently to offscreen land forever. that's just petty unless it did something really bad. like hog focus with lucario. it's either have them, or don't have them at all for some people.

Go has a scyther. that's reason enough to have it be here because scyther has expressed interest in being stronger but go doesn't battle with it or bring it along too often anymore. plus if kamon can't even work with ash and shuns the rest of the team I guess an outsider who is like it and has a fresh experience would do a better job at relating to it and helping it out.
 

Genetic_Hawk

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So once again we will see "satoshi has battled many players to reach his dream of battling dande the greatest of them all......his current rank is (_ _ _)"
 

Genetic_Hawk

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Hjh
sometimes it's just a better idea to prolong things, but not to this extent. Ash should get more focus, agreed, but Go being here makes total sense. just tell me WHO on ashs' current team would benefit from sparring with a guy who's entire motif is being a chivalrous knight and also puts armor on? I don't think dragonite is going to cut it unless he has dragon armor, gengar is...special. it could just float out of the armor. and then poor dracovish...ok, just because people don't like a pokemon doesn't mean it doesn't have to be shafted permanently to offscreen land forever. that's just petty unless it did something really bad. like hog focus with lucario. it's either have them, or don't have them at all for some people.

Go has a scyther. that's reason enough to have it be here because scyther has expressed interest in being stronger but go doesn't battle with it or bring it along too often anymore. plus if kamon can't even work with ash and shuns the rest of the team I guess an outsider who is like it and has a fresh experience would do a better job at relating to it and helping it out
Yeah lucario also has expressed interest in battles has he got any battles onscreen? Leave E4 but has he battled a pwc onscreen and
ofcourse why would ash's dragonite and gengar would benefit from the battle cuz they have nothing with those knight outfits. Battling an E4 does make the opponent gain more experience right?

Go being here cuz scyther has interest in battles isnt the right reason. Dragonite and gengar too have interest to b better at battles. But they r not goh's mons so they dont have the previlage to do things onscreen and so get plot armours
 

ShadowForce720

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Hjh

Yeah lucario also has expressed interest in battles has he got any battles onscreen? Leave E4 but has he battled a pwc onscreen and
ofcourse why would ash's dragonite and gengar would benefit from the battle cuz they have nothing with those knight outfits. Battling an E4 does make the opponent gain more experience right?

Go being here cuz scyther has interest in battles isnt the right reason. Dragonite and gengar too have interest to b better at battles. But they r not goh's mons so they dont have the previlage to do things onscreen and so get plot armours
So Gengar or Dragonite should just show just to lose just to make Ash’s Farfetch’d look good then. Because that’s basically what would happen if they were used here.

There having Goh’s Scyther(even if it winds up evolving into Scizor in this episode) be the sacrificial lamb so Ash’s Farfetch’d can look good.

And heck if Dragonite or especially Gengar showed up and lost here some people would be just using that as an excuse to call the one that lost a flop or say that their weak.
 

Genetic_Hawk

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So Gengar or Dragonite should just show just to lose just to make Ash’s Farfetch’d look good then. Because that’s basically what would happen if they were used here.
Who knows that dragonite and gengar will lose? It could b a 3v3 or 2v2 battle where ash fights 1st with farfetch but his flaws r detected and then gengar who is not so strong but can deal a considerable damage and gains some advice and for dragonite it shouldnt b in this ep also i never said dragonite should b in this ep i just said that dragonite shouldnt appear as it has nothing to do with armours is not right
 

ShadowForce720

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Who knows that dragonite and gengar will lose? It could b a 3v3 or 2v2 battle where ash fights 1st with farfetch but his flaws r detected and then gengar who is not so strong but can deal a considerable damage and gains some advice and for dragonite it shouldnt b
There isn’t any reason to expect the episode to just suddenly bend around if Gengar or Dragonite were in the episode being used in the battle with Farfetch’d considering this episode s clearly part of Farfetch’d’s arc meaning it’s going to be the one getting the shine.

So given that and from we know about the episode there is no reason to think that they would have Farfetch’d take the fall here for Dragonite or Gengar in this episode had they been the ones used as this battle isn’t part of their arc or specifically for them.

It’s better to Goh’s Scyther partner with Ash’s Farfetch’d here because that gives a Pokémon that can easily take the fall for Farfetch’d while Farfetch’d shines and then they can give Gengar and Dragonite a future battle to shine in where they don’t need be sacrificial lambs.

Because let’s be real here regardless of what happens to Scyther in this episode it is just basically serving as a sacrificial lamb.
 
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