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Fire Red Team (Be completely honest)

legit_trainer_eli

Beginning Trainer
This is my electric and water team, but I can't seem to beet Groudon at all. He kills me. My friend's groudon's attack is 479 without swords dance:

Zapdos Lv100
Rash Nature (I don't have time to soft reset all day for the right nature and i caught this from XD so I couldn't do that anyway.)
Hp: 325
Atk: 210
Def: 195
Sp. Atk: 350
Sp. Def: 182
Speed: 273

Attacks:
D-Peck
T-Bolt
T-Wave
Sub

Nothing Equipped

I hatched omanyte with Timid nature (training later)
I will update later.

Jolteon Lv100
Bold Nature
Trying to get Spark or that thing that increases electric attacks for him
Hp: 258
Atk: 128
Def: 156
Sp. Atk: 305
Sp. Def: 205
Speed: 335

Attacks:
T-Bolt
Protect
HP Ice (I think)(If it isnt tell me what to replace it with)
Thunder (After rain dance is used)

Im currently hatching Lotad eggs to find Modest or Bold Nature.

Vaporeon Lv100
Quiet Nature
Hp: 424
Attack: 150
Def: 153
Sp. Atk:298
Sp. Def: 236
Speed: 166

For the last one I may add either:
Adamant Gyrados
Poliwrath
MAYBE (because I don't like using more than I legendary) Kyogre

Okay there is my water party but I do have other ones but this is the newest one Im working on.
 

legit_trainer_eli

Beginning Trainer
Attacks for Vaporeon:
Haze
Rain Dance
Surf
Hydro Pump (just in case it needs to attack)
 

Pika Egg

Veteran newbie ^_^
tip: you should edit your post instead of double posting..
comment: you really don't need to double up on attacks of the same type on any pokmeon here

Zapdos looks ok i guess.

Jolteon
-Tbolt
-Bite
-HP Ice
-Twave

Vaporeon - dunno much here but you don't need both Surf and Hydro Pump, so just keep one. I don't know how necessary Rain Dance is here either..

If you go with Kyogre, you might want to go with Thunder over Tbolt on your electrics.
 

legit_trainer_eli

Beginning Trainer
Nah im not going with koygre and sorry for doing that.
 

Frost Nova

The predator awaits.
An electric and water team is nothing without Kyogre.

Zapdos is fine with Rash I suppose.......keep Drill Peck with Rash.

Vappy's a bulky water, which means she's designed to take attacks, especially physical ones.

Vaporeon@lefties
Bold Nature
- Surf
- Ice Beam / Toxic
- Wish
- Protect

Wish + Protect forms a makeshift Recover, Ice Beam handles grasses, Toxic for other waters. Wish is only obtainable via breeding with a Smeargle that Sketched Wish.

You need a physical attacker, so here's some options:

Gyarados@lefties
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Return / HP [Flying] <- if you're lucky enough to get a good one
- T-Wave

Kingdra@Liechi Berry
Lonely Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Endure
- Flail
- Hydro Pump

Needs a lot of prediction to use, but worth it. Flailing is an option for Gyara, but Kingdra does it better.

Suicune, Raikou, Milotic, Swampert, Lapras, Starmie, Ludicolo and Electabuzz are also options for a water / electric team.
 
This is my electric and water team, but I can't seem to beet Groudon at all. He kills me. My friend's groudon's attack is 479 without swords dance:

Zapdos Lv100
Rash Nature (I don't have time to soft reset all day for the right nature and i caught this from XD so I couldn't do that anyway.)
Hp: 325
Atk: 210
Def: 195
Sp. Atk: 350
Sp. Def: 182
Speed: 273

Attacks:
D-Peck
T-Bolt
T-Wave
Sub

Nothing Equipped

I hatched omanyte with Timid nature (training later)
I will update later.

Jolteon Lv100
Bold Nature
Trying to get Spark or that thing that increases electric attacks for him
Hp: 258
Atk: 128
Def: 156
Sp. Atk: 305
Sp. Def: 205
Speed: 335

Attacks:
T-Bolt
Protect
HP Ice (I think)(If it isnt tell me what to replace it with)
Thunder (After rain dance is used)

Im currently hatching Lotad eggs to find Modest or Bold Nature.

Vaporeon Lv100
Quiet Nature
Hp: 424
Attack: 150
Def: 153
Sp. Atk:298
Sp. Def: 236
Speed: 166

For the last one I may add either:
Adamant Gyrados
Poliwrath
MAYBE (because I don't like using more than I legendary) Kyogre

Okay there is my water party but I do have other ones but this is the newest one Im working on.
Zapdos- Leftovers
~HP; Grass or Ice
~T-Bolt
~Agility
~Substitute

Jolteon- Leftovers
~ Thunderbolt
~ Baton Pass
~ Substitute
~ HP; Ice or Grass

Vaporeon- Leftovers
~ Surf / Ice Beam
~ Protect
~ Toxic
~ Wish

Gyarados- Adamant <--- This one only ingame if no Flying then use Return
~ HP; Flying
~ Earthquake
~ Dragon Dance
~ Thunderwave
 

Altaria Lover

Boulder Trainer
I like Acid Armor and Baton Pass on Vaporeon. Or you could just keep all the Acid Armor'ed Defense for yourself so that you can take physical hits.
 

legit_trainer_eli

Beginning Trainer
Okay thanx. Any other suggestions?
 

howdodo

will be the best
well a ludicolo could help seeing its grass and thats the only thing to really hurt a groudon but idk
 
^^ No.....
 

Freakshow

Jibaku
479 without Swords Dance? That's borked
Its only fair that if your opponent uses an uber, that you use an uber too. It doesn't matter if you have both Zappy and Kyogre; Zappy is not an uber
 
479 without Swords Dance? That's borked
Its only fair that if your opponent uses an uber, that you use an uber too. It doesn't matter if you have both Zappy and Kyogre; Zappy is not an uber
Kyogre = Uber
Zapdos = Legendary

=D
 

snorlax

Banned
If Ledgends are Uber so are Salamence / Metagross / Tyaranitar = /
 

blaziken05

Well-Known Member
Zapdos- Leftovers
~HP; Grass or Ice
~T-Bolt
~Agility
~Substitute

Jolteon- Leftovers
~ Thunderbolt
~ Baton Pass
~ Substitute
~ HP; Ice or Grass

Vaporeon- Leftovers
~ Surf / Ice Beam
~ Protect
~ Toxic
~ Wish

Gyarados- Adamant <--- This one only ingame if no Flying then use Return
~ HP; Flying
~ Earthquake
~ Dragon Dance
~ Thunderwave

I like Hydro Pump > Return ingame.
 
I like Hydro Pump > Return ingame.
I dont.
Due the fact i excaly prefer Hidden Power [Flying]
But its hard to get ingame with Adamant
And if he wants PumpDoss he wants Lonely
 

Frost Nova

The predator awaits.
More like Naughty for Hydro Pumping Gyara: you don't want to waste the sweet effects of Intimidate, would you? It's not really a good idea though, seeing Gyara needs a ton of Spec. Atk EVs for Hydro Pump to actually dent a physical wall.
 
No he dont,,,
Rain dance only for that ability with 1,5 spd or something
 

howdodo

will be the best
ummmm....hes trying to be groudon who has sunny day with him.......yeah it could help but like i said idk
 

legit_trainer_eli

Beginning Trainer
Here is Groudon's Stats:

Hp: I forgot 300-ish
Attack: 479
Defense: 397
Everything Else: 216
 
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