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First team, need help

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BobDoily

Guest
Hey. So I want some ideas for a team I'm building. It's only for local link cable play so the standard tier lists don't effect it. We just have standard gentleman's aggrements on cheap things (no mulitple ubers; no hax items)

Here's what I have on paper so far

Jolteon:
Nature: Timid (+Spd, -Atk) / Modest (+SpAtk, -Atk) ?
EVs: 6 HP, 252 Spd, 252 SpAtk
-Thunderbolt
-Hidden Power (grass or ice?)
-Thunderwave
-Substitute

Suicune:
Natue: Bold (+Def, -Atk)/ I currently have one that is Relaxed(+Def, - Spd)
EVs: 240 HP, 200 Def, 178 SpAtk <-should I be giving some to SpDef?
-Calm Mind
-Rest
-Roar
-Surf

Metagross
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -SpAtk)
Evs: 96 Hp, 252 Atk, 72 Def, 90 Spd
-Agility
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-Explosion

Tyranitar
Nature: Quiet (+SpAtk, -Spd)
EVs: 252 Hp, 68 Spd, 190 SpAtk
-Crunch
-Thunderbolt
-Subsitute
-Focus Punch

Dragonite
Nature: Lonely (+Atk, -Def)
EVs: 52 Hp, 204 Atk, 184 Spd, 70 SpAtk
-Hidden Power (Flying) / Aerial Ace
-Earthquake
-Thunderbolt
-Dragon Dance/Ice Beam?

Mewtwo
Nature: Timid (+Spd, -Atk) / Modest (+SpAtk, -Atk)\
EVs: 6 HP, 252 Spd, 252 SpAtk
-Psychic
-Thunderbolt/Ice Beam?
-Recover
-Calm Mind

yes I know that they are essentially from the net, but that's why I'm posting for help. Not sure what item's i'll use yet either.

All help appreciated
 
BobDoily said:
Hey. So I want some ideas for a team I'm building. It's only for local link cable play so the standard tier lists don't effect it. We just have standard gentleman's aggrements on cheap things (no mulitple ubers; no hax items)

Here's what I have on paper so far

Jolteon:
Nature: Timid (+Spd, -Atk)
EVs: 6 HP, 252 Spd, 252 SpAtk
-Thunderbolt
-HP Grass as you have Ice Beam on the other pokes below.
-Baton Pass
-Substitute

Good lead ;o

Suicune:
Natue: Bold (+Def, -Atk)
EVs: 240 HP / 192 Def / 76 Spd
-Calm Mind
-Rest
-Roar
-Surf

Blah.

Metagross
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -SpAtk)
Evs: 96 Hp, 252 Atk, 72 Def, 90 Spd
-Agility
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-Explosion

Tyranitar
Nature: Quiet (+SpAtk, -Spd)
EVs: 252 Hp, 68 Spd, 190 SpAtk
-Crunch
-Thunderbolt
-Subsitute
-Focus Punch

Dragonite
Nature: Lonely (+Atk, -Def)
EVs: 52 Hp, 204 Atk, 184 Spd, 70 SpAtk
-Hidden Power (Flying) / Aerial Ace
-Earthquake
-Thunderbolt
-Dragon Dance

Mewtwo
Nature: Timid (+Spd, -Atk) / Modest (+SpAtk, -Atk)\
EVs: 6 HP, 252 Spd, 252 SpAtk
-Psychic
-Ice Beam
-Recover
-Calm Mind

yes I know that they are essentially from the net, but that's why I'm posting for help. Not sure what item's i'll use yet either.

All help appreciated

Needs more cowbell imo.
 

aipomkong

prophecy fulfilled
use leftovers on all

Jolteon doesn't have the defences/hp to thunder wave effectivly
 

Tazzler

Well-Known Member
Cbdraggy is sex. Use FP on it or just use mence.
 
Tazzler said:
Cbdraggy is sex. Use FP on it or just use mence.

First you steal my Specialgar set, now you steal my phrase of calling a pokemon set "sex". What next, my virginity? ;o;

In other news, CBgross is always an option>agiligross :x
 

DragonDance

thrasher
Speaking of Virginity, I know whos gonna take mine *tiger growl*

Just use CBGross. It's better IMO.
 
Steve's Legend said:
Speaking of Virginity, I know whos gonna take mine *tiger growl*

Yeah. I'll see you on saturday night ;D

...

Or not.

This team has pert problems :[
 

Tazzler

Well-Known Member
Will you please chill? I had a specialgar set a long time ago and I'm so sorry that I took your set. But claiming sets is no fun, at all. I use the word sexcellent for many things. Claiming a word?

I like DDTar but Boah can work for a suprise factor.
 
Tazzler said:
Will you please chill? I had a specialgar set a long time ago and I'm so sorry that I took your set. But claiming sets is no fun, at all. I use the word sexcellent for many things. Claiming a word?

I like DDTar but Boah can work for a suprise factor.

Srry Ryan, but I don't swing that way.

Ditch Mewtwo for Celebi for Pert.

Erm sarcasm hello? I was joking ffs >_>;
 

Tazzler

Well-Known Member
You seemed upset. But twas is the internet.
 
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BobDoily

Guest
ryan: thanks for the ideas. I don't have any cleric. I assume for when using no-ubers that I'd be best with Blissey on the team as my cleric/sponge? I'll probably raise one up as well. I think after some battles I'll be able to best see where to fit it in.

nooblet: Leftovers on all shouldn't be a problem.

So I see debate on these points:
CBgross vs. AgiliGross
Dragonite vs. CBnite vs. CBmence

For pert, what are my best options to counter? Celebi isn't availible to me. I have Jirachi, but living in Canada makes it hard to go get one of the Celebis. Or would Jolteon HP grass do good enough?
 
BobDoily said:
ryan: thanks for the ideas. I don't have any cleric. I assume for when using no-ubers that I'd be best with Blissey on the team as my cleric/sponge? I'll probably raise one up as well. I think after some battles I'll be able to best see where to fit it in.

nooblet: Leftovers on all shouldn't be a problem.

So I see debate on these points:
CBgross vs. AgiliGross
Dragonite vs. CBnite vs. CBmence

For pert, what are my best options to counter? Celebi isn't availible to me. I have Jirachi, but living in Canada makes it hard to go get one of the Celebis. Or would Jolteon HP grass do good enough?

Well you have cune to lol at pert, but you may want extra support ;x Anything like Venusaur/Ludicolo/Sceptile/Gyarados/Milotic can lol at pert though, and hopefully they should be available to you. As for the special wall and heal beller, blis would fit nicely on this team, however tyranitar x Sandstorm affects bliss' leftovers recovery and that hurts it...a lot really :/ So maybe you'd want bliss>TTar?

If I were you, I'd ditch Draggy for Cbmence or DDmence and thus on that decision of mence, you can decipher whether you want agiligross or not. If you go for CBmence (which I suggest), then you should go for agiligross considering 2 CBers on one team can be....meh-erific. Although passing a sub from jolteon on a switch and baton passing to sala whilst the opponent uses EQ, can always be fun with Dragon Dance. All up to you really.
 
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BobDoily

Guest
i was doing more online skiming

I was thinking to spread out my weakness to GRD to switch Jolteon for:
Zapdos
-Thunderbolt
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
-HP (GRS/ICE)

yes that would expand my weakness to ICE, but I see with Dugtrio and pert being out there that a GRD weakness might hurt me more

For what I can't get: Celebi, Mew, Deoxys

I might just raise up both a CBmence and a DDmence to test it out. Although I'm leaning to CBmence, and Agiligross, that way I can use gross with less switching. I may do this, raise CBmence, DDmence, CBgross, Agiliygross. And run one CBer and one Speed-uper, switching them on my likes.

This is makign me concerned about ICE. I'm thinking CurseLax? I could definitely see me running CurseLax over Mewtwo for completely standard play.
 
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BobDoily

Guest
How's this?

Zapdos @Leftovers
Nature: Modest (+SAtk, - Atk) / Timid (+Spd, -Atk) ??
EVs: 6 HP, 252 Spd, 252 SAtk
-Thunderbolt
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
-HP (GRS/ICE)??!?!?!?!

Suicune @Leftovers
Natue: Bold (+Def, -Atk)
EVs: 240 HP / 192 Def / 76 Spd
-Calm Mind
-Rest
-Roar
-Surf

Metagross @Leftovers
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -SpAtk)
Evs: 96 Hp, 252 Atk, 72 Def, 90 Spd
-Agility
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-Explosion

Tyranitar@Leftovers
Nature: Quiet (+SpAtk, -Spd)
EVs: 252 Hp, 68 Spd, 190 SpAtk
-Crunch
-Thunderbolt
-Subsitute
-Focus Punch

Salamence @Choice Band
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -SAtk)
EVs: 6 HP, 252 Atk, 252 Spd
-Rock Slide
-Earthquake
-Hidden Power (Flying)
-Flamethrower

Mewtwo @Leftovers
Nature: Timid (+Spd, -Atk) / Modest (+SpAtk, -Atk)\
EVs: 6 HP, 252 Spd, 252 SpAtk
-Psychic
-Ice Beam
-Recover
-Calm Mind

For Standard play:
-1x Mewtwo
+1xCurselax

Snorlax @Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
Nature: Careful (+SDef, -SAtk)
EVs: 204 Hp, 94 Atk, 136 Def, 8 Spd, 68 SDef
-Curse
-Earthquake
-Body Slam
-Rest
 
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