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Flames of a Red-Hot Reunion! (777)

Discussion in 'Pokémon Black & White - Adventures in Unova' started by Serebii, Mar 7, 2013.

  1. WaterShuriken

    WaterShuriken Well-Known Member

    That has got nothing to do with it as that wasn't a problem for the original Japanese version. They made everything BW style so it wouldn't seem out of place.
  2. lolipiece

    lolipiece Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    Or you could watch the first episode and see that your statement is completely wrong.
  3. Toonyoungster

    Toonyoungster The Capture Champion

    I noticed how in the flashbacks, they used some of the dialogue 4kids used instead of a straight translation. Interesting.
  4. (P.O.K.E.M.O.N)

    (P.O.K.E.M.O.N) AshXSerena = Canon

    Loved this episode so much! so great to see charizard returning :p i did tear up a wittle :3
  5. Vipsoccermaster

    Vipsoccermaster Well-Known Member

    Damn, that was an amazing episode! Great to see Charizard back, and all those flashbacks, it really brings me back. Misty and Brock, and even Damien. I thought it was "Damian," though. The writers really out-did themselves for the jackpot-numbered episode, 777. One of my favorite episodes.

    666th episode was one of my favorites, as well, since that was when Ash caught Snivy, one of my favorite Pokémon.

    Here's hoping the 888th episode will be as good as this one.
  6. sandy ketchum

    sandy ketchum Well-Known Member

    I felt kind of awkward watching the flashbacks in his new voice. the flashback scenes seemed forced. sarah portrays ash so differently.
  7. moneylesswario

    moneylesswario Shudo's Powerhouses

    Saw the dub for this episode, and it sucked....the episode is good, but not really the dub.
    Misty sounds NOTHING like she did in the OS (and her cameos), or even MOMP. I liked Bill Rogers, surprisingly. Zoppi as Professor Oak proved to be the worst.
    I did like Damian's voice (his was the one I was worried about the most) and Koga's.
    I still don't like how the Charizard vs Dragonite match went unresolved, though.
  8. fubufubu

    fubufubu Well-Known Member

    charizard's back! ....now where did i leave that champagne i was saving for this moment?
  9. Little Goomba Bulbs Jr.

    Little Goomba Bulbs Jr. Active Member

    Things i liked

    The magikarp salesmen appears

    Ash tells the gang why he has Pikachu as his first pokemon

    Cilian mentions Charzard is like Dragonite and Exadrill.

    But i would like Cilian to introduce his pokemon to Charzard.
    But back in the flashbacks They used ashs modern voice, and the evolutions were the new unova evolutions. But i like how some of them are modernized.

    Good episode.
  10. Alfred the Second

    Alfred the Second Dracoflare

    Trust me...it's not worth it.
  11. AuraChannelerChris

    AuraChannelerChris "And just what are you starin' at?"

    Oh, the Magikarp Salesman.

    Why didn't James appear in this episode? I liked that regional running gag...
  12. Firebrand

    Firebrand Indomitable

    Yep, for all two of her lines.
  13. Marbi Z

    Marbi Z Cin-Der-Race!

    OK! With the exception of the first episode can you name any Flashbacks or References to Ash's previous adventures in the first half of the BW saga?
  14. LizardonX

    LizardonX Banned

    The dub was decent for the last good ep we'll have until XY.
  15. moneylesswario

    moneylesswario Shudo's Powerhouses

    Your point?
  16. When a voice sucks, it simply sucks. Doesn't matter how short a duration a time it was. I completely agree with StickerStarYoshi.

    They have had 7 years to get it right. Like it or not, there's no excuse for crappy performances at this point.

    My thoughts:

    Ash- Good, but lacked emotion. Taylor was better because she was more natural and less forced, and for the emotion she put into the role.
    Brock- Bad at first, good, then bad again. Stuart was better because his voice is higher pitched and fits his age better, but Bill was tolerable.
    Misty- No contest. Lillis was FAR better. She sounds like Iris now. :/
    Damian- Can go either way, really, but Blaustein won this one solely because of nostalgia.
    Koga- Horrible. Stuart Zagnit was better.
    Professor Oak- Nightmarishly bad. Stuart Zagnit was better. The worst by far.
    Squirtle- Nearly dead on ringer for Eric's. Excellent.
    Bulbasaur- Good enough impression of Tara Jayne. Good job.
    All Other Pokémon- Simply pathetic. Poor job.

    Yeah, the voice itself is pretty close, but it sounds SO strained and forced. Taylor was far more natural.
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2013
  17. moneylesswario

    moneylesswario Shudo's Powerhouses

    I agree, if someone is going to voice a character in the first place, they have to be BEARABLE.

    Aerodactyl did not sound right.
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2013
  18. Firebrand

    Firebrand Indomitable

    As in, Misty had so few lines in the flashbacks that they barely totaled three seconds. I don't see how you could complain about her voice after something so insignificant.
  19. I don't see how you can't complain, considering they've had 7 years to get it right, and still haven't. It's ridiculous they still have trouble after all this time has passed.

    It's simply unacceptable at this point. Bill Rogers simply CANNOT yell as Brock at all (his voice was surprisingly good, and nothing like the constipated DP Brock at all), Michele can't play Misty, and Sarah's Ash still lacks a natural feeling and emotion to it after all this time (ironically her voice is now the closest to the 4Kids voice, IMO).

    The less said about Professor Oak, the better. I don't even want to begin to describe the numerous issues with that one. It's self-explanatory.

    Aerodactyl sounded like he was mentally...yeah.

    Bill's Brock is DRAMATICALLY better in voice than in DP, but he CANNOT yell as Brock. That's actually my issue with him now.
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2013
  20. matt0044

    matt0044 Well-Known Member

    Would it have been possible to take the audio from the old episodes and apply them to the flashbacks here? Or would there've being sound quality issues? Legalities.

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