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For All Things Gay: Views on Homosexuality

Discussion in 'Debate Forum' started by Fused, Dec 12, 2009.

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  1. Alkaide

    Alkaide Scary Faerie♥

    Oh Believe me, I don't try to hide it either. Haha I love talking all gay-like. But there are certain people (like my parents) where I attempt to not speak normally. It sucks though because I like speaking the way I naturally speak. But sometimes it's just mandatory.
     
  2. ZarraWolf

    ZarraWolf Well-Known Member

    About the bisexuals. I'm lesbian and I prefer other lesbians for long-term relationships. Because some bisexual people don't want to choose between a relationship with a man or a woman. Some of them want both.

    I'm not at all against polygamy, but I just don't want a polygamous relationship myself.

    I'm not sure, but this might be the reason why it would seem that gays dislike bisexuals.


    I saw some people talk about gay culture, and recognizing gay people in a crowd. Please be aware of the fact that most gays are very normal people. Not all gays are into gay culture and most gays do not look and act like stereotypes.


    I personally don't care about marriage. It's a Christian tradition and I want nothing to do with it. In my country we are allowed to get married. But you can also just get a contract that says that you are partners and that you live together. Which has most of the benefits of marriage.
     
  3. 7 tyranitars

    7 tyranitars Well-Known Member

    HAHA ok a little offtoipic but when you said about that contract I was like hmm here in the Netherlands we have that too, then I look at where you come from :p

    and I know that most gays are normal people, I'm not gay but I dislike people who discriminate gays
     
  4. Alkaide

    Alkaide Scary Faerie♥

    Yeah, I know what you mean. I personally, though, would prefer a relationship with another guy. I can't see myself in a relationship with a girl.
     
  5. Zazie

    Zazie So 1991

    Just because you're Bisexual doesn't mean you absolutely need to have sex with both genders. While having sex with a man is not the same as having sex with a woman, it doesn't mean that you need to do both. I believe most Bisexual do end up having to choose one person to maintain a long term relationship. I am Bisexual and could easily stick to a monogamous relationship. (Of course I do have a preference towrds women so I may not be the best example)

    As for why Gays/Lesbians would hate Bisexuals. It has a lot to do with social perceptions. Bisexuals are still able to have relationship that isn't taboo if they so choose and in certain circles it is quite fashionable to be into both genders. There is also a common belief that Bisexuals don't really exist and anyone who claims to be so is really either gay/straight and lying. This causes some homosexuals to dislike Bisexual people due to what they see as either being disingenous to their actual sexuality, or getting off easy for their unorthodox sexual preferences. Nevemind that being Bisexual has it's own unique set of drawbacks.
     
  6. iColorfulEevee

    iColorfulEevee Lalalala~✰

    Exactly, ever since I was a little kid I could never imagine myself with a girl, not to mention I could NEVER understand why guys would go all like, "OMG BOOBIES!!" But I could TOTALLY understand girls' obsession with boys. Too bad all the boys at my school are all straight or bi, and the ones that are bi are like really good friends that I don't want to ruin my friendship with them... ;___; Not that I like them like that anyway. ;3



    Anywayz, most of the people at my school that AREN'T straight are bi, ( 'cept for me and my should-be-a-comedian-when-she-grows-up lesbain friend~~ ) and they can easily manage gay and lesbian relationships with one another just like every other couple. Of course everybody will notice that they might think that somebody else might be attracting too but just like any other couple, it doesn't affect their relationship. As long as they're devoted to their partner its just like any other relationship, I think... Honestly, I don't care whether my future partner is gay or bi, as long as they're not straight ( DUH!! ) or cheat on me. < That felt really cheesy to me... =____= >
     
  7. Shrine Sprite

    Shrine Sprite Chortles!

    Bisexuality is a curious issue to me... I consider myself bisexual, but I think that there are different levels of it and that it varies.

    My progression was something along the lines of... I was mostly indifferent early on, but I'd never been interested in guys. I met my best friend, a girl, in first grade. Another friend, who was a guy, I met a bit later. Now I mostly have friends who are girls. I used to think that there was a pattern in that guys who hung out with mostly girls at an early age would more likely be gay, and the same for girls who had mostly guy friends. Maybe there is, with some exceptions.

    In late elementary school, there was one girl I was interested in, but I never talked to her, just because I was the quiet, shy type. In Junior High, I wasn't interested in anybody. Never even considered it. In early High School, I dated a few girls, but the relationships never lasted long, and I was usually very indifferent towards them in the relationship... I never felt anything passionate towards them.

    In fact, even now, I consider myself to never have loved someone before [outside of the "kin"-type love you have with close friends and family].

    Around a year - half a year ago I decided to come out bisexual. There are a lot of guys and girls who constantly catch my eyes when I see them in hallways or in class. I've never dated another guy though... it's difficult to imagine myself in a relationship with one, even though I usually find guys more attractive in general. I've still never been in a seriously relationship with anyone though, so I'm thinking I need to initiate a relationship before I find out where I'd like to lean. I just don't know right now.

    Like someone above had said, bisexuality isn't looking to have both sexes... I find polygamy [and, well, sex and porn in general] revolting. I just want one person... I don't explicitly care whether that person is male or female.

    Sorry for multiple jumbled thoughts in one unorganized post.
     
  8. 7 tyranitars

    7 tyranitars Well-Known Member

    well I think there are 4 differend types of bisexuals
    1- the person likes both and male and female
    2- the person doens't really know what he/she wants
    3- the person says he/she is bisexual just to get easier accepted
    4- the person is a sex addict that can't live whitout sex although I think this one will be a ver small percentage and 1 2 and 3 are more likely
     
  9. Erienne

    Erienne Anime high :D

    It's sooooooo sad that in America we actually still care so much if someone is gay. Like, I read this article on like Sunday about how in Oklahoma there is this huge debate and petition because in this children's book they said that two people of the same gender can file taxes together and visit each other in the hospital. In most of the developed world it isn't as big an issue, and it shouldn't be here. I'm not going to use the usual quip about how the Bible was written by man, but even those who believe it is godly, why not others do what they want? How is being gay affecting you?

    I think that being homosexual is perfectly fine, and that if two people of the same gender want to be together, marry, raise children, and whatever else, they should be legally allowed to do so.

    Bisexuality is the same, and it's probably better anyway, since then you have double the odds of finding a mate. :D
     
  10. Grei

    Grei not the color

    Those aren't different types of bisexuals, kid.

    1 - Traditional Bisexual.
    2 - Bi-curious. Generally applies to teenagers because they're trying to experiment to see exactly what they want.
    3 - That'd be some sexuality OTHER than bisexual, like homosexual or heterosexual. Just because you lie and say that you're bisexual doesn't necessarily mean you are one.
    4 - This is actually a sizable percentage. There are a lot of sex addicts and hypersexuals out there, although just because one is hypersexual or a sex addict doesn't mean they are bisexual. You can be addicted to sex and still like one gender over the other.

    So really, you identified a bisexual, a sexually-curious individual, a liar, and a hypersexual person. Only one of those is a bisexual. : /


    Truly, bisexuals are just like everyone else, they just like both genders rather than just one. Of course, a bisexual may choose to be identified as one type of sexuality. If a bisexual woman likes men more, she may identify herself as heterosexual; if a bisexual man likes men more, he may identify himself as homosexual, and vice-verse for both.
     
  11. Gunned

    Gunned Summer Time


    Been there. Done that.

    You may be going through a bit of an awkward phase, but part of growing up means accepting your sexuality, but not letting it run your life. Its hard to determine what your really feeling at a young age, especially for those going through puberty. most of the people I've talked to said that one important thing they learned is the fact that you CAN appreciate another member of your sex as attractive but not have it go any farther than that. If you can't seriously imagine yourself spending a lifetime, which is a hell of a long time, with another guy or girl or whatever than you may want to serously sit down and ask yourself why you're finding yourself so attracted to these people in the first place. Is it a real longing for LOVE? Or is it just a tempoary curiosity? The answer is as equally important as the question. No matter what you find out, you should come to terms with it as soon as possible, and if anyone gets on you about it then just don't talk to them. Live your own life and don't let the pressures of the modern teenage world rule your future.

    I'm fine with homosexuals. I'm not fine with people who try and be something they're not.
     
  12. 7 tyranitars

    7 tyranitars Well-Known Member

    -.- you totaly get me wrong you make it sound like I hate gays/bisexuels which is far from it, secondly I'm from a differend country so what you just said was what I ment but I jsut formulated it wrong since english isn't my native languges, and the last one was more to give a reason to have sex whit both man and women I give you that one that I should have added that comes not even close and are just sex adicts, and that's not a reason to just flame at me, or say it on that kind of a harsh way.
     
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  13. Grei

    Grei not the color

    Wow.

    -In no way was I indicating that you hated gays or bisexuals, I have no idea how you came to that conclusion. I said that you don't seem to have a full understanding of how bisexuality works, but that's about all.

    -Your list had nothing to do with using proper english terms because all you did was list four different sexual types of people. You don't need to be a good English speaker OR a bad one to list that--it had nothing to do with language, it's all about understanding of sexuality. Non-English speakers can have that understanding.

    -I wasn't being harsh or flaming you. I'm sorry you took it that way? Regardless, I don't even think the way I said it was all that bad at all. The only remotely-offensive part of that entire post was probably calling you "kid", and the offensiveness of that hinges entirely on if you are actually young or not.

    -That last part of my post (from "Truly, bisexuals are just like everyone else" onwards) wasn't directed at you, it was mostly just a general note about bisexuality, since your post sort of grouped them in with liars and hypersexuals, unintentionally or not.
     
  14. 7 tyranitars

    7 tyranitars Well-Known Member

    this part made it sound like I would think they are differend since I know they are just like everyone else, and it was unintentional to grouped them together,
    and it wasn't really complete I was writing (typing) it in a little rush so I'm sorry I kinda flamed at you
     
  15. Kira

    Kira Psychic Enthusiast

    Mmm, while I myself cannot say where my orientation lies, as I've never been romantically involved with someone of either gender, I think that sexuality is a hazy line and many are caught unknowing exactly where they stand.

    I think sexuality goes beyond "I'm straight so I only like guys/girls" or "I'm gay so I only like guys/girls" or even "I'm bi so I like both." I don't think that sexuality is so clear that one can state his or her orientation simply because they have a preference of males or of females.

    I've often heard of males be considered gay because they complimented another male on his attire or on his looks; why is that? I've often thought "That girl looks pretty" or "That outfit looks great on her" while encountering other women; does that make me a lesbian?

    Or is orientation strictly limited to physical and/or emotional relationships, rather than attraction? Does lusting after one of the same gender make that person gay, but finding someone of the same gender not? Again, I don't think one's orientation is something so easily defined by simple labels.
     
  16. Zazie

    Zazie So 1991

    While this is true, it's much easier to keep things simple by saying I am gay, lesbian, bisexual etc. Describing ones sexuality is very complex, and sometimes you just need a simple word to describe yourself, that is why these terms are used. And Sexual orientation is limited to physical attraction, emotional attachment to people can heppen regardless of the person's sex and is generally called friendship.
     
  17. xbluextotodile1394

    xbluextotodile1394 Blue Knight of Water

    Okay seriously! Homosexuality is not "weird". And for the names those hater call it you know the saying i am rubber and u are glue whatever you say bounces off me and sticks on you? well thats how it works here. Call homosexuals ***s *boyng* hmmm i didnt know a straight gay hater was called a *** interesting? Well i think we need to change that definition. Sexual abuse means nothing why would someone who was contacted in a homosexual way be homosexual if they weren't in the first place? Maybe its just a study that was flawed because it had a bias to give a reason for homosexuality. Its like finding a reason why Nintendo released Arceus in the 4th generation.... You can make up thousand of answers all probably not so right or wrong. Homosexuality is normal and of nature and if Celebii could talk it would agree.
     
  18. Mye

    Mye Someone has to win..

    ^^ assuming celebi is gay?....anyways, my opinion is this: people have had their rights killed for the past 2000 years. From the blacks, to women, to the jewish. To me, this is no different. There has to be some equality, or you're literally saying to everyone “hey....you can be black, you can be female, just don't express your inner self....”
     
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