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snorlax

Banned
Lapras (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Roar
- Surf
- Thunderbolt

Heracross (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide
- Swords Dance

Pikachu (M) @ Light Ball
Trait: Static
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Encore
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 112 HP / 68 Atk / 132 Def / 196 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Rest
- Return
- Shadow Ball
- Sleep Talk

Donphan (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 160 HP / 180 Atk / 168 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Counter
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin
- Rock Slide

Charizard (M) @ Salac Berry
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Lonley Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Belly Drum
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Flying]

uhhh gotta catch em all
 
A

Alfonc

D/P is almost here!!
Toy said:
Lapras (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Roar
- Surf
- Thunderbolt

Heracross (M) @ Lum Berry/Salac Berry
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide
- Swords Dance

Pikachu (M) @ Light Ball
Trait: Static
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Encore
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Snorlax (M) @ Chesto Berry
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 112 HP / 68 Atk / 132 Def / 196 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Rest
- Return
- Shadow Ball
- Curse

Donphan (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 160 HP / 180 Atk / 168 Def
Impish Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Counter
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin
- Rock Slide

Charizard (M) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant/Jolly Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Overheat
- Aerial Ace

uhhh gotta catch em all
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Hope that helps!
 
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^Chestorest fails miserably, and Charizard doesn't have the durability to be messing around with Dragon Dance, especially when it has Belly Drum and, to a lesser extent, Swords Dance. Aerial Ace has absolutely no point when HP Flying is readily available. Overheat is debatable, but if you're using BellyZard, you're pretty much planning to stay in for as long as you can, and you can't afford to lose Sp. Attack. I actually like the idea of Impish Donphan, works about as well as Adamant, but JollyCross is just pointless. Adamant powers it up so much more.

~*CB*~
The 8th Champion​
 
S

snorlax

Banned
uhhh i only need help with evs really and lol at chesto on rest talk
 
Hey Micky!

Hey Micky!

Well-Known Member
DragonDance said:
Get out of rmt. Thats how you can help.
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I seen worse advice then that, not worthy of a flame. Not saying it was king of the world advice but not flame-worthy ignorant.
 
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DragonDance

thrasher
Ok. Let me turn my Flame into helpfull advice.

Chesto Rest sucks. Most users need leftovers recovery. Chesto rest especially sucks on ResTalkers.

Jolly on Heracross is not a very good idea. He needs Adamant to pack a bigger punch. Salac berry is only good on EndRev crosses, which isn't used because of Tyranitar.

Impish is OKAY on Donphan, but Adamant is better.

DDZard fails in Competitive battles. Aerial Ace sucks when you have Hidden Power [flying]

Is that better Willowwhisp? (Ric Flair Avatar > Oldboy Avatar imo)
 
1

1-2 da gun

Guest
lol

No impish is better because donphan is supposed to be a wall if he was meant to sweep he would have choice band or something. PLus he'll need impish if he wants to switch into rock slides.
 
T

Tazzler

Well-Known Member
It is not necessary. With that spread, he is 5HKO'ed by CBDactyl's RS, 3hko'ed by Tyranitar's RS after 2 DD (4HKO if he adds 8 more hp evs), 4HKO'd by rhydon's rock slide after a sworda dance and 5HKO'd by Salamence's RS after 2 DD. More than eough to switch in on rock slides.
 
S

snorlax

Banned
thank you fro the whole discussion on donphan but still

EVs
 
1

1-2 da gun

Guest
Why would you want adamant donphan anyway. He's not going to sweep a team anytime soon. At least with impish he can do his job of surviving.
 
S

snorlax

Banned
counter is really what hes for and i want max damage out of that so no def i like attack get off of it jesus
 
T

The Flat World

Free Trade For All
Seeing how his team lacks a decent physical wall, Impish Donphan could be beneficial.
 
Zero Nexus

Zero Nexus

Stand up, go for it
Toy said:
Lapras (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- perish song
- Surf
- Thunderbolt

Heracross (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide
- Swords Dance

Pikachu (M) @ Light Ball
Trait: Static
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- mega punch
- thunder
- Substitute
- rain dance

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 112 HP / 68 Atk / 132 Def / 196 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Rest
- Return
- Shadow Ball
- Sleep Talk

Donphan (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 160 HP / 180 Atk / 168 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Counter
- Earthquake
- iron tail[couldnt think of anything else]
- Rock Slide

Charizard (M) @ Salac Berry
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Lonley Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- rock slide
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- arial ace

uhhh gotta catch em all
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roar and rapid spin suck!
 
Hey Micky!

Hey Micky!

Well-Known Member
Pikachu (M) @ Light Ball
Trait: Static
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- mega punch
- thunder
- Substitute
- rain dance
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Let me be the 1st to say, disregard this poster's advice. When you can't give useful advice for the Competitive Enviroment, just don't.
 
F

Freakshow

Jibaku
Willowwhisp said:
Let me be the 1st to say, disregard this poster's advice. When you can't give useful advice for the Competitive Enviroment, just don't.
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Quoted for the truth.

OK, back to the team:
I recommend TImid>Modest on Pika, because the lightning mouse is not durable, and you want him as fast as he can. Plus, with timid, he outspeeds Adamant base 100s.

Snorlax usually needs ~501 HP, but do what fits for you.

IMO start with Lax to deter Zapdos/Jolteon leads
 
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DragonDance

thrasher
zezrex5 said:
roar and rapid spin suck!
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*Must. Resist. Flaming!*

First you say Calm Mind, a god send, sucks, now you say that Roar and Rapid Spin, two of the best utility moves there are, suck. May I ask How? Because we all know that they don't.

Also lol@ CBZard w/o a choice band. Iron Tail Donphan, and that disgrace of a Pikachu.
 
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