This is why I don't battle online. It's just not fun.
To you, maybe.
Like I said before, declaring Pokemon uber and banning them just reflects negatively on the skill of the person that creates the tiers. He or she can't handle that Pokemon (and maybe, just maybe, isn't that great at Pokemon to begin with), so it's uber and banned.
When you can take down an EV trained Arceus, Kyogre, Palkia, or whatever you have with a standard OU team, you can start talking crap like that. Ubers is for Pokemon that completely break the game. The Pokemon you need to build your entire team around if you want to have even a prayer of countering them. Arceus will ruin absolutely any OU team that isn't specifically made to take it down. Kyogre with Choice Scarf will sweep an entire team with Water Spout, end of story. Wobbuffet, even. It is flat-out impossible to counter it, because you can't switch. It is almost guaranteed to take down at least one opponent. All of them (save for Wobbuffet) limit your team's abilities and versatility, because unless you're thinking "can this team beat Groudon/Kyogre/Rayquaza/what-have-you", you will lose every time to them. Your skill doesn't mean **** when you're staring down an EV trained team that consists of Arceus, Kyogre, Rayquaza, Mewtwo, Giratina, and Palkia.
You don't need to battle online with Smogon rules, but don't start *****ing when your entire team gets sodomized by Giratina or something.
People that follow those kinds of tiers only illustrate their level of skill as well. Lack of skill in the game is what it comes down to. That's not questioning. That's fact.
All right, I want you to show me an OU team that beats Arceus. No, I want you to come up with multiple teams that destroy Arceus. If you can, well, guess what? Those ones you come up with are the ONLY VIABLE TEAMS in a metagame with Ubers. If you don't run one of those Arceus-beating team, YOU WILL LOSE. There's no way around it.
How would you feel if SPPF suddenly banned the word, 'the'? That's how stupid it looks when those tiers ban Pokemon. That's the lack of skill those people display.
How in the seventh circle of hell does banning a commonly-used word of the English language compare to banning Pokemon that are uncounterable to keep the game fair and unique?
Solution: Get better at the game instead of whining and banning Pokemon that you can't handle.
Somehow I doubt you'd be complaining about the tiers if every team you ran into had 6 Arceus or 6 Rayquaza or whatever. Good luck beating teams like that.
Or: Make a team that works against said Pokemon. Isn't that the point of Pokemon? To figure out what works against who?
Here's the thing. NOTHING WORKS AGAINST MOST UBERS. That's why they're Uber. Now, let's assume you did have a team that could do that. Guess what? That is now the only viable team you can play to beat Arceus or whatever Uber you're worried about most. Guess what else? You are now vulnerable to every other Uber, and indeed even most OU Pokemon, because your team is entirely centralized on killing that Uber.
On a personal note though (unrelated to this), I really wish they never went online with this battling. Because nobody I personally know has ever *****ed and moaned about ubers when we used to play against one another offline. It used to be: I bring my team, they bring their team and we BATTLE! What's so complicated about that?
Yeah, it's so terrible that we're now able to battle the way we want without having to be two feet away from our opponents, just because we battle in a way that you don't like. And we all know there's a guy with a gun to your head forcing you to battle with Smogon's rules.
Now back on topic. Let's compare Salamence and Garchomp.
- Salamence is weak to Stealth Rock. Garchomp resists it. 1-0 Chomp.
- Salamence is crippled by Thunder Wave. Garchomp is immune to it. 2-0 Chomp.
- Salamence has base 100 Speed. Garchomp has 102 Speed, not only outspeeding Salamence, but putting it in a unique speed tier. 3-0 Chomp.
- Salamence has base 135 Attack. Garchomp has 130. 3-1 Chomp.
- Salamence gets hurt in sandstorm, which is common because of Tyranitar. Garchomp gets an evasion boost. 4-1 Chomp.
- Most Salamence sets are basically Dragon Dance, Outrage, Earthquake, and something like Brick Break or Fire Blast for additional coverage, maybe a few mixed sets or Specs sets (I haven't seen many of either on Shoddy lately). Garchomp is incredibly versatile, and you never know whether it's a YacheChomp, ChainChomp, ScarfChomp, or what-have-you. 5-1 Chomp.
- Salamence has base defenses of 95/80/80. Garchomp's are 108/95/85. 6-1 Chomp.
And a few subjective bonuses and such for both, such as Mence getting DD and Chomp getting SD. Basically, Garchomp wins, hands-down.