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deadly devon

Sea Ruby Trainer
why is garydos a flying type and he can only learn 1 flying type move which is areal ace why isnt he water/dragon or somethin why flying?

to be honest i can not see a garydose flying
 

umbreunatic

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first of all it is gyarados not garydos(e) and second I already saw something like this in this same section some days ago, so search for that thread ( not mad if you thought so) and why did you think it could learn A.A??? I thought the same and I don;t know why.
 

deadly devon

Sea Ruby Trainer
oh ok but can some1 explain that1 to me anyway so i wont have to search so hard for that post
 

Volteon

Back I guess??
Read this :)
~*Commander Blizzard*~ said:
This topic needs to be made a Sticky, because I'm sick beyond sick of explaining this over and over.

Magikarp and Gyarados are based off a Japanese legend. A weak, powerless fish existed in a peaceful lake, and stumbled across a roaring waterfall. The fish attempted to climb this waterfall, to prove its use. It succeeded, and the gods rewarded it by turning it into a flying serpent and blessing it with amazing powers. So yes, GYARADOS. CAN. FLY. And if you didn't know this yourself, The Wacky Watcher of the Orange Island episodes makes a nice wake-up call, because the entire episode is a recreation of how Nintendo planned out the two.

That's speaking from a design stand-point. Now for Competitive reasoning:

Dragon/Water would DESTROY Gyarados in every way imaginable. First off, it would be susceptible to Earthquake and other Ground Type moves, Earthquake being way up there with the most frequently seen moves on NetBattle. Second, it would lose all Physical STAB, and be pretty much just like poor Yanma Statwise(meaning its lesser Offensive Stat is higher than the Offense that allows it to use its two STABs). HP Flying wouldn't do near as much damage without STAB to back it up.

And from a common sense stand-point, it won't happen. If Nintendo wanted to fix this, they would have done it in G/S/C. It's the same thing with the Poison or Dark debate with the Gengar line(except they actually SHOULD be Dark Types, because they're only Poison Types because it was the closest thing to Dark back then).

To sum it up, the worthless fish did not become a Dragon. It became a serpent. Serpent, not dragon. Not dragon, serpent. In no way draconic, but serpentine. Less of a dragon, more of a snake. I don't know how much I have to impress this on everyone until the point is made clear, but that should hopefully get the message across.

And anyone who whines that Gyarados can't fly or that it looks more like a Dragon needs to STHU, because it obviously can fly and it will never become a Dragon.
 

Komedic Konservationist

N00b in the dungeon!
Gyarados is based off of a Chinese dragon, and Chinese dragons are said to have been extremely magical; amongst there incredible abilities was the ability to fly without wings.
If Gyarados had been created for the third generation, it would have undoubtedly been Dragon/Water with Levitate, but since abilites didn't exist in RBY when Gyarados came into being, it's now stuck with the somewhat illogical Water/Flying.
 

deadly devon

Sea Ruby Trainer
Komedic Konservationist said:
Gyarados is based off of a Chinese dragon, and Chinese dragons are said to have been extremely magical; amongst there incredible abilities was the ability to fly without wings.
If Gyarados had been created for the third generation, it would have undoubtedly been Dragon/Water with Levitate, but since abilites didn't exist in RBY when Gyarados came into being, it's now stuck with the somewhat illogical Water/Flying.
oh ok i see now
 

Atoyont

Brains for brawn
~*Commander Blizzard*~ said:
This topic needs to be made a Sticky, because I'm sick beyond sick of explaining this over and over.

Magikarp and Gyarados are based off a Japanese legend. A weak, powerless fish existed in a peaceful lake, and stumbled across a roaring waterfall. The fish attempted to climb this waterfall, to prove its use. It succeeded, and the gods rewarded it by turning it into a flying serpent and blessing it with amazing powers. So yes, GYARADOS. CAN. FLY. And if you didn't know this yourself, The Wacky Watcher of the Orange Island episodes makes a nice wake-up call, because the entire episode is a recreation of how Nintendo planned out the two.

That's speaking from a design stand-point. Now for Competitive reasoning:

Dragon/Water would DESTROY Gyarados in every way imaginable. First off, it would be susceptible to Earthquake and other Ground Type moves, Earthquake being way up there with the most frequently seen moves on NetBattle. Second, it would lose all Physical STAB, and be pretty much just like poor Yanma Statwise(meaning its lesser Offensive Stat is higher than the Offense that allows it to use its two STABs). HP Flying wouldn't do near as much damage without STAB to back it up.

And from a common sense stand-point, it won't happen. If Nintendo wanted to fix this, they would have done it in G/S/C. It's the same thing with the Poison or Dark debate with the Gengar line(except they actually SHOULD be Dark Types, because they're only Poison Types because it was the closest thing to Dark back then).

To sum it up, the worthless fish did not become a Dragon. It became a serpent. Serpent, not dragon. Not dragon, serpent. In no way draconic, but serpentine. Less of a dragon, more of a snake. I don't know how much I have to impress this on everyone until the point is made clear, but that should hopefully get the message across.

And anyone who whines that Gyarados can't fly or that it looks more like a Dragon needs to STHU, because it obviously can fly and it will never become a Dragon.
Bolded: No, a part of the Manga says otherwise.

It's Gyarados, and it's Flying. GET. OVER. IT. It's a darn good Pokémon generally, anyway.
 

Hsiao-Chai

Mute Swordsman
Gyarados is based on the Chinese legend of a carp transforming into a dragon. It would make sense if he could learn flying attacks, since Chinese dragons can fly without wings. Chinese dragons are occasionally depicted with bat-like wings growing out of the front limbs, but most do not have wings.

Gyarados is the halfway transformation between carp and dragon, so it has both dragon and fish characteristics and no legs. Maybe there should be an evolution of a fully transformed Gyarados.
 
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