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Gastrodon and Quagsire

Discussion in 'Older Gens' started by arceusvictini, Aug 31, 2011.

  1. arceusvictini

    arceusvictini Taking over Serebii

    Even though the awesomeness that has been granted to them this gen, they're still NU. Why? Discuss!
     
  2. Blue Harvest

    Blue Harvest Banned

    Because they have a pretty limited niche role. They wall specific things but don't really do anything back besides spread status and be Ferrothorn's *****. On the right team they're incredible but you can't just throw them on the rooster like you could Latios or Tyranitar.
     
  3. Ninja Dewott

    Ninja Dewott Ice Cold Fire

    I agree, they do have limited roles, but imo they still deserve to be OU.
     
  4. Blue Harvest

    Blue Harvest Banned

    OU is usage based, so no they won't be OU lol. Not unless usage SPIKES significantly (though Gastrodon usage is definitely rising)
     
  5. Ferrothorn can lay that down for you.

    Sorry, I had to.

    Anyway, I have to agree with BH here. Just because they have a niche does not mean that it is OU. By that logic we should make Farfetch'd OU because it has a niche as being the only effective user of Stick.
     
  6. Blayd

    Blayd Grrrr!

    I like Gastrodon, in fact he's one of my favourite pokemon to use competetively. He walls amazingly and has a great ability, good typing too, unless your opponent is secretly packing Grass Knot. Overall, I'm surprised he's not OU
     
  7. emboarrocks

    emboarrocks #1 emboar fan

    they should be in UU. Quagsire can stall very well and grastodon is awesome on sand teams(i've used one).
     
  8. windsong

    windsong WEST SIDE

    PROTIP GUYS: TIERS ARE BASED ON USAGE STATS

    j/s
     
  9. Vandslaux

    Vandslaux Well-Known Member

    Agreed. They should be UU. Only problem is that Milotic outclasses both as a UU bulky Water.
     
  10. Dragard

    Dragard I wasn't even there.

    They'll be OU if people use them more. I highly doubt that will happen.
     
  11. Pichu47

    Pichu47 Fear Me, If You Dare

    Gastrodon is a great wall in OU. I stalled out a ferrothorn with stockpile/Recover and burn damage. he is a beast!
     
  12. If you failed to get a Scald Burn and did not yet get Stockpile boosts, then Ferrothorn could have easily 1/2HKOd.
     
  13. D-World

    D-World Robo-Cascoon's angry

    I've been using both of them in various teams, but to me Gastrodon stands out because it's strong enough to not have to run Toxic on it's set like Quagsire.
     
  14. Ivanka

    Ivanka Freeeeeeeeee

    Gastrodon and Quagsire both seem to be very situational Pokemon. They're only usable to wall a certain number of Pokemon, and as Blue Harvest said, all they can really do is inflict status effects. As for their tier, it is all about usage, so if they're both not used much, then they will be NU.
     
  15. Generic User Name

    Generic User Name Well-Known Member

    I believe they have potential to be UU, but not OU quite yet.
     
  16. Mister_SGG

    Mister_SGG Well-Known Member

    Why's everyone saying they should be OU? There's about a 2% chance of either of them getting there, the most they can hope for is UU.
     
  17. Generic User Name

    Generic User Name Well-Known Member

    I use Gastrodon in OU. It protects well as a special wall. Storm Drain is an awesome ability.
     
  18. Ninja Dewott

    Ninja Dewott Ice Cold Fire

    I'm fine with them in staying in UU. That means I can use them there XD
     
  19. mycooly

    mycooly Banned

    If the tiers weren't based off usage gastro would totally be in OU
    all of you saying its not ou material are retarded, its the best in OU, its better in OU then UU -_-
     
  20. Gastro is pretty much doomed to be RU for a while, unless it's OU usage really picks up. Like BH said, it has a great niche in OU, but it's somewhat limited. It checks bulky waters and Thundurus, and it makes a good answer to Rain teams, but it's not like it's the only Pokemon that can do that. That said, it won't make UU either. Gastro is actually pretty bad in UU with all the Grass types running around like crazy. The same applies to Quagsire.

    Not to say that either are bad. Both are great Pokemon, but unless they have plenty more usage, they will both be RU for a while.
     

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