Gen 10 Pokédex - Discussion/Speculation Thread

[Victreebong]

To be fair, they can make the adjustments.

If things like Gengar can get a debilitating nerf in Gen VII, Fan-Rotom can get a few buffs in Gen V on. Matter of fact, that’s when we got the type changes for the different forms. Absolutely no reason why Air Slash couldn’t have been retconned to Hurricane, and Levitate for just the Fan-Form changed to Motor Drive.

 

[Luthor]

To be fair, they can make the adjustments.

If things like Gengar can get a debilitating nerf in Gen VII, Fan-Rotom can get a few buffs in Gen V on. Matter of fact, that’s when we got the type changes for the different forms. Absolutely no reason why Air Slash couldn’t have been retconned to Hurricane, and Levitate for just the Fan-Form changed to Motor Drive.

Instead of just changing fan rotom's ability what they could do is just give all Rotom a hidden ability. Like you say Motor Drive would make Rotom more useful in that form and while I suspect levitate would be the preferred option generally in the other forms it could be a situational option.

 

[Acer11]

To be fair, they can make the adjustments.

If things like Gengar can get a debilitating nerf in Gen VII, Fan-Rotom can get a few buffs in Gen V on. Matter of fact, that’s when we got the type changes for the different forms. Absolutely no reason why Air Slash couldn’t have been retconned to Hurricane, and Levitate for just the Fan-Form changed to Motor Drive.

Actually, if that would happen, all non-regular Rotom forms would have Motor drive.

 

[Luthor]

One Pokemon I could see returning and possibly getting something new is the Spidops family. It is based on a net casting spider which Indonesia does have in various Asianopis species and it's also somewhat weak for a gen 9 Pokemon which means it could be added to the earliest routes of this new region without being too much for new players (with the possble extra addition making it more exciting for returning players) while being new enough its not been in multiple regions . But that's not the only reasons I think it seems plausible. The main reason comes down to its design. It's a lot more humanoid than most of the other spiders and that might make it easier to expand the line with either a new evolution of spidops or possibly a new alternate evolution of Tarountula (for example similar what they did with the snorunt family they could add a female only evolution which somewhat works as spiders often have gender dimorphism in real life). Not saying its definite but seems plausible.

 

[pokeloreshorts]

One Pokemon I could see returning and possibly getting something new is the Spidops family. It is based on a net casting spider which Indonesia does have in various Asianopis species and it's also somewhat weak for a gen 9 Pokemon which means it could be added to the earliest routes of this new region without being too much for new players (with the possble extra addition making it more exciting for returning players) while being new enough its not been in multiple regions . But that's not the only reasons I think it seems plausible. The main reason comes down to its design. It's a lot more humanoid than most of the other spiders and that might make it easier to expand the line with either a new evolution of spidops or possibly a new alternate evolution of Tarountula (for example similar what they did with the snorunt family they could add a female only evolution which somewhat works as spiders often have gender dimorphism in real life). Not saying its definite but seems plausible.

Spidops redemption arc, I'm listening.

 

[Acer11]

If these games had been based on Greece I was going to suggest a regi based on the fire Prometheus gave to hummanity (with Regigigas in the role of Prometheus). Still that doesn't meant they couldn't do a new regi here (even still a fire one) . Now regielecki and Regidrago shows that they can be made from unexpected things who knows what they could do.
A Grass one might be a good idea given that there's going to be a focus on water types (from the diving).

A Fire type Regi would be made from concentrated flames since Registeel was made of magma. A Water type Regi would be made from water. And a Grass type one would basically be made of plants.

 

[ShadowForce720]

A Fire type Regi would be made from concentrated flames since Registeel was made of magma. A Water type Regi would be made from water. And a Grass type one would basically be made of plants.

If they wind up introducing new Regis and Winds & Waves they could introduce a new Flying type and Water type Regi.

Or could you imagine how neat it would be if they introduce 5 new Regis that were the following types: Water, Flying, Fire, Grass, and Ground


Of course if they do introduce new Regis in these games then they probably would just do 2-3 new ones.

It would also be neat if Magcargo got an evolution that was Fire/Steel or they could give Slugma a branch evolution where it evolves into something else that doesn’t have a shell.

 

[Acer11]

If they wind up introducing new Regis and Winds & Waves they could introduce a new Flying type and Water type Regi.

Or could you imagine how neat it would be if they introduce 5 new Regis that were the following types: Water, Flying, Fire, Grass, and Ground


Of course if they do introduce new Regis in these games then they probably would just do 2-3 new ones.

It would also be neat if Magcargo got an evolution that was Fire/Steel or they could give Slugma a branch evolution where it evolves into something else that doesn’t have a shell.

Actually, I was thinking that the evolution would have a hardened lava shell in the shape of a conical volcano and it retains the Fire/Rock type combination.

 

[Luthor]

A Fire type Regi would be made from concentrated flames since Registeel was made of magma. A Water type Regi would be made from water. And a Grass type one would basically be made of plants.

Logical. However it would probably be harder to know what something like a Bug regi would be made of in order to represent the 'age of insects' ( Carboniferous Period). A poison regi could be interesting as it could be a modernish regi created from pollution to control pollution (possibly referencing the "The Age of Industrialization" aka the industrial revolution)

IIt would also be neat if Magcargo got an evolution that was Fire/Steel or they could give Slugma a branch evolution where it evolves into something else that doesn’t have a shell.

I certainly would like to see them do something for the Slugma line. They buffed it back in gen 7 and gave it... 20 stat points which helped slightly I guess . So clearly they are aware that the current Magcargo isn't exactly a powerhouse. If they were to go the direction or a branch evolution they could make it a lot faster I suppose (without the shell) or the could go the same route as the applin family and have one line have two evolutions. Though personally I'd go with the evolution (or both if they are feeling generous) as I do like the idea of it becoming fire/steel a bit of a reference to how rock ores become metal.

Actually, I was thinking that the evolution would have a hardened lava shell in the shape of a conical volcano and it retains the Fire/Rock type combination.

If it were to keep the Fire/Rock typing I'd want it to get an ability upgrade as its not the best typing for something slow. Perhaps Weak Armor could become Solid Rock (referencing its shell being much tougher).

 

[Beloberto]

One Pokemon I could see returning and possibly getting something new is the Spidops family. It is based on a net casting spider which Indonesia does have in various Asianopis species and it's also somewhat weak for a gen 9 Pokemon which means it could be added to the earliest routes of this new region without being too much for new players (with the possble extra addition making it more exciting for returning players) while being new enough its not been in multiple regions . But that's not the only reasons I think it seems plausible. The main reason comes down to its design. It's a lot more humanoid than most of the other spiders and that might make it easier to expand the line with either a new evolution of spidops or possibly a new alternate evolution of Tarountula (for example similar what they did with the snorunt family they could add a female only evolution which somewhat works as spiders often have gender dimorphism in real life). Not saying its definite but seems plausible.

I really like that every spider line is a 2 stage with each having its own typing. So at least until we got two more to fill a team with 6, I hope none gets a 3rd stage.

An alternate evolution or a new form for Spidops, though, I would like (Home's datamine even suggested there was a planned form for it). For the latter, I still don't get how Spidops is not a Bug/Dark, so an alternate form could have it.

 

[Luthor]

I really like that every spider line is a 2 stage with each having its own typing. So at least until we got two more to fill a team with 6, I hope none gets a 3rd stage.

An alternate evolution or a new form for Spidops, though, I would like (Home's datamine even suggested there was a planned form for it). For the latter, I still don't get how Spidops is not a Bug/Dark, so an alternate form could have it.

I'm not a fan of every spider line being a 2 stage line but to each one's own.

That being said if they did want to go with a Bug/Dark variant of spidops (instead of an alternate branch evolution of Tarountula or a further evolution of spidops) it would make sense and at least it could be the first bug regional variant if they went that direction.. I've wondered if it was intended as a bug/dark type but they realised the didn't need two bug/dark types and instead made it pure bug so it didn't clash with Lokix in scarlet and violet (though personally I think that was the wrong choice as they've doubled up with the same typing before). Maybe they could have made Paldea Spidops Bug/Fighting instead so that at least it could make better use of circle throw.

 

[King Marth 64]

If these games had been based on Greece I was going to suggest a regi based on the fire Prometheus gave to hummanity (with Regigigas in the role of Prometheus). Still that doesn't meant they couldn't do a new regi here (even still a fire one) . Now regielecki and Regidrago shows that they can be made from unexpected things who knows what they could do.
A Grass one might be a good idea given that there's going to be a focus on water types (from the diving).

Wait, so is the only suitable Pokémon-type Regi that could possibly fit in the Caribbean like Region should be a Grass and Water—type only for the new Gen 10 Regis?

 

[Luthor]

Wait, so is the only suitable Pokémon-type Regi that could possibly fit in the Caribbean like Region should be a Grass and Water—type only for the new Gen 10 Regis?

Absolutely not. I suggested grass as there will be a lot of water types Including potentially one of the legends and as such a regi could be a good way to have something to counter them a bit and its easier to imagine what a grass type regi would be based on but that's it. I never said anything about it being the only suitable type.

 

[Acer11]

Absolutely not. I suggested grass as there will be a lot of water types Including potentially one of the legends and as such a regi could be a good way to have something to counter them a bit and its easier to imagine what a grass type regi would be based on but that's it. I never said anything about it being the only suitable type.

Caribbean? I thought Gen 10's region was supposed to be based off of Malaysia.

 

[Luthor]

Caribbean? I thought Gen 10's region was supposed to be based off of Malaysia.

Not sure what you quoted that message. But the speculation is that it is inspired by countries such as the Philippines, Indonesia, and Malaysia (it'll be clearer once we see more). Hard to say for certain until we get to see a bit more but I do think we will see a lot of Pokemon inspired by those countries in the dex.

 

[ShadowForce720]

This is a thought but what if Lumineon winds up getting an evolution.

Not sure if it would stay pure water type though or gain a secondary typing.

 

[Luthor]

This is a thought but what if Lumineon winds up getting an evolution.

Not sure if it would stay pure water type though or gain a secondary typing.

I don't see why they couldn't (beyond just not not being able to come up with the right design). They are already seen there in game and there's a ton of local species they could take inspiration from for an evolution. Given Finneon has the nickname "Beautifly of the Sea" it might well make sense to give it Bug type, but given that's so obvious I could see them wanting to do something unexpected so perhaps adding something else might be a good idea like Fairy or Fire. I do think giving it a new type is a sensible idea given that these games will likely have a lot of other water types a new typing would help it to stand out.

 

[Acer11]

I don't see why they couldn't (beyond just not not being able to come up with the right design). They are already seen there in game and there's a ton of local species they could take inspiration from for an evolution. Given Finneon has the nickname "Beautifly of the Sea" it might well make sense to give it Bug type, but given that's so obvious I could see them wanting to do something unexpected so perhaps adding something else might be a good idea like Fairy or Fire. I do think giving it a new type is a sensible idea given that these games will likely have a lot of other water types a new typing would help it to stand out.

I've imagined Spinda getting an evolution that has 90 points in each base stat, an evolution of Octillery who is a Water/Fire type squid, an evolution of Ariados based on a Black Widow, an evolution of Mightyena, an evolution of Swalot, the aformentioned Lumineon evolution, a lava snail evolution of Magcargo with a conical lava shell, a UFO-like alien evolution of Beeheeyem, a Saguaro evolution of Cacturne, an evolution of Kricketune, and a potential evolution of Tropius

 

[Luthor]

I've imagined Spinda getting an evolution that has 90 points in each base stat, an evolution of Octillery who is a Water/Fire type squid, an evolution of Ariados based on a Black Widow, an evolution of Mightyena, an evolution of Swalot, the aformentioned Lumineon evolution, a lava snail evolution of Magcargo with a conical lava shell, a UFO-like alien evolution of Beeheeyem, a Saguaro evolution of Cacturne, an evolution of Kricketune, and a potential evolution of Tropius

I would be on-board with any of those. Generally speaking those are all lines which I think would be good to get something. One that stands out to me from your list is Tropius. It wasn't just a pokemon seen in the background of the trailer it was quite prominent (though it may have just been there to show of the new shadowing). Personally I would give Tropius the same treatment that Roselia got in gen 4 and give it both a pre-evolution and an evolution. That way people could catch one early game and then use it throughout their journey. Its stats aren't great but a slightly weaker version could be on the equivalent of the first route and a final evolution could boost and focus its stat spread to be really good.

 

[Acer11]

I would be on-board with any of those. Generally speaking those are all lines which I think would be good to get something. One that stands out to me from your list is Tropius. It wasn't just a pokemon seen in the background of the trailer it was quite prominent (though it may have just been there to show of the new shadowing). Personally I would give Tropius the same treatment that Roselia got in gen 4 and give it both a pre-evolution and an evolution. That way people could catch one early game and then use it throughout their journey. Its stats aren't great but a slightly weaker version could be on the equivalent of the first route and a final evolution could boost and focus its stat spread to be really good.

The evolution would be a lot questionable since it's a sauropod that flies.