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Gen 8 stat buffs for old pokemon?

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Pokemon Fan

Knuckle Trainer
Something we've gotten for a couple gens now are boosts to the base stats of pokemon from earlier generations, presumably in an effort to make them more viable battlers (or at least not as weak as before). One can assume this will hold true for the 8 generation games as well.

The buffs tend to be just 10 to 20 point boosts per stat that is buffed, albeit one (Farfeth'd) got a 25 point boost.

Sadly, for most of these it seems it didn't help them all that much, as stats are usually not the only thing holding them back. But its still a nice thing to have, and it at least makes them more usable for story mode.

So basically, what stat increases for old pokemon are you hoping for? Are there any reasonable ones that you think could make a pokemon rise a tier in competitive play?

For me, I'd like to see Rapidash get some stat buffs, like 10 points added to its Attack and Speed stats. Another that comes to mind would be a similar buff for Tauros. Anything to make them more noteworthy than they currently are.
 
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Trainer Yusuf

Trainer Yusuf

VolcaniNO
From my main blog:
  1. Bibarel: +10, BST: 410->420.
  2. Mothim/Wormadam: +30, BST: 424->454
  3. Pachirisu: +30, BST: 405->435
  4. Sunflora: +40, BST: 425->465
  5. Purugly: +25, BST: 452->477
  6. Venomoth: +30, BST: 450->480
  7. Sudowoodo: +50, BST: 410->460
  8. Dewgong: +30, BST: 475->505
  9. Garbodor: +25, BST: 474->499
  10. Girafarig: +30, BST: 455->485
  11. Stantler: +20, BST: 465->485
  12. Aromatisse: +20, BST: 462->482
  13. Ludicolo/Shiftry: +10, BST: 480->490
  14. Swoobat: +30, BST: 425->455
  15. Gothitelle/Reuniclus: +10, BST: 490->500
  16. Golem: +20, BST: 495->515
  17. Beheeyem :+20, BST: 485->505
  18. Spiritomb: +30, BST: 485->515

Individual stats don't matter to me much, since most species that get stat buffs are rendered useless competitively, as confirmed by their non-presence in in-game battling facilities.
 
Fairy Queen

Fairy Queen

Lover of the Fairy type
I want to avoid obviously powerful pokemon, and giving them buffs to make them more powerful. So here is what I am thinking (obviously not all of these):

Fearow: +10 Attack (90->100) NEW BST: 452
Parasect: +20 HP (60->80) NEW BST: 425
Dewgong: +10 Attack (70->80) +10 Special Attack (70->80) NEW BST: 495
Hypno: +10 Special Attack (73->83) NEW BST: 493
Kingler: +10 Defense (115->125) NEW BST: 485
Weezing: +10 HP (65->75) NEW BST: 500
Seaking: +10 Speed (68->78) NEW BST: 460
Ledian: +20 Attack (35->55) NEW BST: 410
Lanturn: +10 Special Attack (76->86) +10 Special Defense (76->86) NEW BST: 480
Sudowoodo: +10 HP (70->80) +10 Defense(115->125) +10 Special Defense (65->75) NEW BST: 440
Sunflora: +20 Special Attack (105->125) NEW BST: 445
Granbull: +20 Speed (45->65) NEW BST: 470
Ursaring: +5 Speed (55->60) NEW BST: 505
Exploud: +10 Special Attack (91->101) NEW BST: 500
Hariyama: +10 Defense (60->70) +10 Special Defense (60->70) NEW BST: 494
Swalot: +10 Attack (73->83) +10 Special Attack (73->83) NEW BST: 487
Whiscash: +10 Attack (78->88) NEW BST: 478
Kecleon: +20 HP (60->80) NEW BST: 460
Tropius: +10 Attack (68->78) +10 Special Attack (72->82) +10 Speed (51->61) NEW BST: 490
Luvdisc: +20 Special Attack (40->60) NEW BST: 350
Bibarel: +20 HP (79->99) NEW BST: 430
Kricketune: +10 Attack (85->95) +20 Speed (65->85) NEW BST: 414
Wormadam: +20 HP (60->80) NEW BST: 444
Mothim: +10 HP (70->80) +10 Speed (66->76) NEW BST: 444
Vespiquen: +10 HP (70->80) +10 Speed (40->50) NEW BST: 494
Carnivine: +10 Special Attack (90->100) NEW BST: 464
Lumineon: +10 Special Attack (69->79) NEW BST: 470
Maractus: +10 Defense(67->77) +10 Special Defense (67->77) NEW BST: 481
Beheeyem: +10 HP (75->85) NEW BST: 495
Stunfisk: +10 Special Attack (81->91) NEW BST: 481
Pangoro: +10 HP (95->105) NEW BST: 505
Dragalge: +10 HP (65->75) NEW BST: 504
Crabominable: +10 Special Defense (67->77) NEW BST: 488
Shiinotic: +20 HP (60->80) NEW BST: 425
Lurantis: +10 HP (70->80) NEW BST: 490
Palossand: +10 Special Defense (75->85) NEW BST: 490
Turtonator: +10 HP (60->70) NEW BST: 495
Drampa: +10 HP (78->88) NEW BST: 495
 
shoz999

shoz999

Back when Tigers used to smoke.
They need to give a buff to Poliwrath. The superhero badass of Red's team in Adventures has been living in Politoed's shadow too long! Preferably a 10+ to his HP, ATK, and SPD.
 
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Scammel

Well-Known Member
I quite like Fairy Queen's list. I don't necessarily mind low stats - I think weaker, forgettable Pokémon have an important role to play in creating a believable ecosystem, so to speak - and I don't think buffs should be evenly spread across stats.

Where I wholeheartedly approve of boosts is in instances where species either lack focus or have fallen behind to the point where they can no longer fulfil their own niche. Gen 1 is the most obvious offender for this kind of thing; base 90 in a given stat looked solidly above-average 20 years ago, and now it gets you laughed out of town if you actually intend to do anything - to think that Tauros once ran rampant with 100 base Attack and no items!

Even worse are the Gen 1 species, often Water types, that don't so much have awful BSTs as useless distribution. Golduck, Dewgong, Poliwrath - all terrible generalists with only minor niches in their movepools. 10/15pts in a single stat won't make these unfortunates any good, but they will at least be able to claim some definition in lower tiers.
 
nel3

nel3

Crimson Dragon
im not on the gen 8 train at all and i havent thought of getting a Switch but there are some pokemon to get stat buffs. Farfetch'd +15->20 in speed and Bellssom +15 in health.
 
johno1995

johno1995

Well-Known Member
1. Primeape +15 (+15 Atk), 455-->470 BST
2. Dewgong +10 (+10 Sp.Atk), 475-->485 BST
3. Rapidash: +20 (+10 Atk, +10 Spd), 500-->520 BST
4. Furret +20 (+20 Atk), 415-->435 BST
5. Ledian +20 (+20 Atk), 390-->410 BST
6. Lanturn +15 (+15 Sp. Atk), 460-->475 BST
7. Forretress +10 (+10 Atk), 465-->475 BST
8. Beautifly +10 (+10 Sp. Def), 395-->405 BST
9. Dustox +20 (+10 Sp. Atk, +10 Sp.Def), 385-->405 BST
10. Grumpig +10 (+10 Sp. Def), 470-->480 BST
11. Cacturne +10 (+10 Spd), 475-->485 BST
12. Zangoose +10 (+10 Def), 458-->468 BST
13. Seviper +10 (+10 Spd), 458-->468 BST
14. Tropius +10 (+10 Atk), 460-->470 BST
15. Cherrim +15 (+10 Sp.Atk, +5 Spd), 450-->465 BST
16. Purugly +10 (+10 HP), 452-->462 BST
17. Toxicroak +10 (+10 Atk), 490-->500 BST
18. Lumineon +15 (+10 HP, +5 Sp. Atk), 460-->475 BST
19. Lickilicky +15 (+5 HP, +10 Atk), 515-->530 BST
20. Yanmega +15 (+5 Sp.Def, +10 Spd), 515-->530 BST
21. Swoobat +15 (+15 Sp.Atk), 425-->440 BST
22. Maractus +10 (+10 Sp.Atk), 461-->471 BST
23. Cinccino +15 (+5 Atk, +10 Spd), 470-->485 BST
24. Galvantula +10 (+10 Spd), 472-->482 BST
25. Stunfisk +10 (+10 Sp.Atk), 471-->481 BST
26. Druddigon +10 (+10 Def), 485-->495 BST
27. Aromatisse +10 (+10 HP), 462-->472 BST
28. Slurpuff +10 (+10 Sp.Atk), 480-->490 BST
29. Lurantis +10 (+10 Atk), 480-->490 BST
30. Bewear +10 (+10 Atk), 500-->510 BST
31. Turtonator +10 (+10 HP), 485-->495 BST
 
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