Ignition
World's biggest Incineroar stan
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Gen 9 Pokemon - Discussion/Speculation Thread
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Copley Hill Gym
Well-Known Member
My Baxcalibur is going to absolutely yank the Pokémon league with this. Madness will occur.
ShinyPie
Fruity & Delicious
Base 108 ain't that great these days. If you went physical you'd have to Terastylise and use Terablast for fire stab, which is a waste. Other option would be to pair with Sun and run Growth. But Fire Fang still isn't great. Fire Lash or a new move would have been nice. Spicy Extract even encourages a physical set.
Tsukuyomi56
Artistic Flair
Aside from the Wugtrio line and Palafin’s Hero Form (neutral on Iron Bundle), I quite liked the Gen 9 Water-types. Only issue the ones I do like (if you did not pick Quaxly) are only available somewhat “late”. The open world nature of the region means you can technically jet ahead to where they are found but there comes the issue of them disobeying you until you have enough of the badges from the Victory Road path.
Beloberto
Bug Catcher
Tinkatink line artwork
Tatsugiri
Tatsugiri
One thing I noticed on the artwork for the Tinkatink line is that she adds to the hammer rattle with each evolution, you can see the original rattle in both the Tinkatuff and Tinkaton artwork. A cool touch.
Tatsugiri somehow is even cuter in the artwork too.
raichu27
Well-Known Member
I agree. That would be cool to see.Dashbun feels like a Fire/Fairy, being a cooked pastry dog ^^; Its ability would have tied to the Fire type even more.
I would have swapped either Paragon Volcanora's forms for Dragon/Bug IMO. Come to think of it, several Dragon-type moves... look and feel like Fire moves, so moving from one to the other would have made sense
Flygon would've been awesome for a Bug/Dragon type.
Lord Godwin
The Lord of Darkness
At first I was dissapointed most Past Paradoxes (outside of Great Tusk and Brute Bonnet) are based not on final stages (one can even make an argument Roaring Moon is a stage between normal and Mega Salamance) but it actually makes sense from the evolutionary perspective. Those Pokemon did not achieve their final stages in the past and after many years found the most optimal forms for themselves with Magneton and Larvesta gaining the ability to fly/float etc.
Similarly Future Paradoxes are based on final forms and evilved from those.
I'm not taking BTS into account here.
My only complain is that Roaring Moon should've been more similar to Shelgon and not Salamance, especially taking into consideration the whole lore of Bagon wanting to fly and Salamance eventually achieving it. I know it might be an unpopular opinion as everyone seems to love Roaring Moon. I also love the design but it contradicts its lore a bit
Similarly Future Paradoxes are based on final forms and evilved from those.
I'm not taking BTS into account here.
My only complain is that Roaring Moon should've been more similar to Shelgon and not Salamance, especially taking into consideration the whole lore of Bagon wanting to fly and Salamance eventually achieving it. I know it might be an unpopular opinion as everyone seems to love Roaring Moon. I also love the design but it contradicts its lore a bit
Smeargle-Sketch
Sketcher of Smeargles
In regards to percentage out of the overall dex, this gen has about the most Pokemon I like right off the bat.
Quaxly
Skellidirge
Pawmo
Kilowattrel
Flamigo
Spidops
Lokix
Cyclizar
Scovillian
Toedscool
Clodsire
Mabosstiff
Dachsbun
Paladean Tauros
Armarouge
Garganacl
Anilihape
Palafin
Cetitan
Baxcalibur
Are all on rotation
Not to mention additional older Pokemon I've been using; Donphan, Tyranitar, Breloom, Ampharos, Lucario, Scizor and Heracross.
Quaxly
Skellidirge
Pawmo
Kilowattrel
Flamigo
Spidops
Lokix
Cyclizar
Scovillian
Toedscool
Clodsire
Mabosstiff
Dachsbun
Paladean Tauros
Armarouge
Garganacl
Anilihape
Palafin
Cetitan
Baxcalibur
Are all on rotation
Not to mention additional older Pokemon I've been using; Donphan, Tyranitar, Breloom, Ampharos, Lucario, Scizor and Heracross.
Reinhardt
You! Me! Rivals! Yes?
As far as new Pokemon in Gen 9, there aren't as many that I really like as there were in Gen 6, 7 or 8, but there are still a few stand-outs:
- the Sprigatito family. Meowscarada is definitely my new favourite Dark-type now. I just love how the cute grass kitten grows up to be an even cuter goth girlfriend with a signature move that always gets a critical hit and never misses.
- Clodsire. Initially I didn't like Clodsire, and I still don't understand why it had to be it's own unique Pokemon and not a Paldea Quagsire, but it won me over with its bulk and power when I used it as a temporary team member in my first full playthrough, and I plan on including it on my next playthrough team.
- Armarouge. It took a while to get going as Charcadet, but once I got it evolved it was a full-blown powerhouse, and up there as one of my favourite Fire-types. I'm looking forward to using Ceruledge and comparing the two.
- Rabsca. While I haven't used one on a team, I have faced a few in Tera Raids. I like beetles, and Rabsca has a funky concept going on with its floating ball of Psychic dung with an infant growing inside.
- the Sprigatito family. Meowscarada is definitely my new favourite Dark-type now. I just love how the cute grass kitten grows up to be an even cuter goth girlfriend with a signature move that always gets a critical hit and never misses.
- Clodsire. Initially I didn't like Clodsire, and I still don't understand why it had to be it's own unique Pokemon and not a Paldea Quagsire, but it won me over with its bulk and power when I used it as a temporary team member in my first full playthrough, and I plan on including it on my next playthrough team.
- Armarouge. It took a while to get going as Charcadet, but once I got it evolved it was a full-blown powerhouse, and up there as one of my favourite Fire-types. I'm looking forward to using Ceruledge and comparing the two.
- Rabsca. While I haven't used one on a team, I have faced a few in Tera Raids. I like beetles, and Rabsca has a funky concept going on with its floating ball of Psychic dung with an infant growing inside.
vondecayle
Blue fish girl and Green sandwich girl <3
Will the Team Star vehicles pokemon be available?
OshyHikari
c l a r i t y
No, they’ll be like Eternamax Eternatus. A boss-only Pokémon that cannot be caught or used by the player.
Trillion
Well-Known Member
i love that thing. after thinking i'd seen most, if not all the new pokemon- i was surprised when someone threw one out in my first online tera raid battle. didn't even register that it was a gimmighoul evolution at first. honestly had never even considered that gimmighoul could even evolve
then i saw its pokedex book artwork and was sold
been working on collecting coins so i can get my own
Ophie
Salingerian Phony
Sounds like you're playing the Violet version. The Scarlet version has a different theory: that the ball is its true body, and the bug hanging onto it is its way of interacting with the world.
You might be pleased to know that when Gholdengo follows you around in the overworld, it travels via a SKATEBOARD. I found it hilarious when I discovered this!
it can even keep up with Koraidon/Miraidon!
Baggie_Saiyan
Well-Known Member
I am confused what the point of the convergent species are? I initially thought they would have different BST but they're the same so why can't they be forms? Unless it's like baby Pokemon that they exist purely for lore/ dex filler?
bruhidk
LARRY SUPREMACY
So we can have a funny running tentacool
RileyXY1
Young Battle Trainer
I think that one of GF's goals for this game was to get to 1000 unique species of Pokemon, so they just reskinned some old ones and called it a day.
Captain Jigglypuff
Leader of Jigglypuff Army
I actually don’t mind the convergent Pokémon. The Paradox Pokémon are sort of convergent species themselves as they aren’t exactly like their normal relatives and all have traits different than their usual species. Plusle and Minun are virtually the same Pokémon looks wise with only their tails, cheeks, and accent colors being different. Emolga is just a Pachirusu that has different colors and can glide through the air. Alolamola looks extremely similar to Luvdisc to the point that everyone had thought it was a possible evolution for it before BW were released. Even the Nidoran lines are somewhat convergent even if they are the earliest example of gendered Pokémon and differences and gender based evolutions. Pokémon having very similar characteristics to other species have been a thing for years.