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General Character Discussion Thread

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Shouldn't Wally be older? Since Hoenn and Kanto's games takes place within the same timeframe, he can't be that much younger than Red and Blue. If Red and Blue are 20, then Wally should be around his late teens during SM.

Seeing as Cynthia's in the Battle Tree and it mentions famous trainers, that should of course mean Lance, Steven, Iris and Diantha should be available. Wallace and Alder are a possibility, but I doubt the latter will appear due to abdicating his position after BW. I'd like to see the protagonists too, but with mixed genders for diversity (Ethan, May, Dawn, Hilbert, Rosa, and Calem for example). If Wally and Blue are in, then perhaps the other rivals, so Silver, May/Brendan, Barry, Cheren/Bianca, Hugh, and maybe Shauna since she mentioned going to another region.

This goes without saying, but if most of the pre-gen V Gym Leaders were in the PWT, they should be in the Battle Tree. I'd love to see Roxie, Marlon, and the Kalos leaders added into the leader roster.

This whole thing...

I'm dying.
 

Genos

The Indigo Disk
I admit I went "wtf?" when I saw Red and Blue. They sure look old!

I'm hoping they'll bring almost everyone!
 

Wulava

danger chili pepper
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Shouldn't Wally be older? Since Hoenn and Kanto's games takes place within the same timeframe, he can't be that much younger than Red and Blue. If Red and Blue are 20, then Wally should be around his late teens during SM.

Seeing as Cynthia's in the Battle Tree and it mentions famous trainers, that should of course mean Lance, Steven, Iris and Diantha should be available. Wallace and Alder are a possibility, but I doubt the latter will appear due to abdicating his position after BW. I'd like to see the protagonists too, but with mixed genders for diversity (Ethan, May, Dawn, Hilbert, Rosa, and Calem for example). If Wally and Blue are in, then perhaps the other rivals, so Silver, May/Brendan, Barry, Cheren/Bianca, Hugh, and maybe Shauna since she mentioned going to another region.

This goes without saying, but if most of the pre-gen V Gym Leaders were in the PWT, they should be in the Battle Tree. I'd love to see Roxie, Marlon, and the Kalos leaders added into the leader roster.

Then one could simply put ORAS in a different timeline, same time as XY.
If I'm not mistaken, there's really nothing in ORAS (not RSE) that completely points to it and RBGYFRLG happening on the same time.
 

Alatar VGC

House Greyjoy
I admit I went "wtf?" when I saw Red and Blue. They sure look old!

I'm hoping they'll bring almost everyone!

Me too!

However seeing Red and Blue again makes me happy and its nice to see them continue the overall timeline.
I.e they aged from HGSS
 

R_N

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Then one could simply put ORAS in a different timeline, same time as XY.
If I'm not mistaken, there's really nothing in ORAS (not RSE) that completely points to it and RBGYFRLG happening on the same time.

or it's a PWT situation where they didn't want to make a completely new model of Wally so they just reused the ORAS one.
Red & Blue get special treatment since they're....Red & Blue.
 

WhiteBlair

ベストチャンピオン。
They have absolutely made one of a fantastic job with Red and Blue. And, Cynthia is returning, yes!
 

yuoke

Treasure huntin'
or it's a PWT situation where they didn't want to make a completely new model of Wally so they just reused the ORAS one.
Red & Blue get special treatment since they're....Red & Blue.

If I get to see older hilda I might faint.
 
I'm a fan of the characters returning, but I admit the redesigns of Green and Red...didn't grab me at first, though I do love the '96' on Red's shirt. Great nod to the series!

As for the timeline, well, it's been mostly thrown out of the window anyways. If we were still to go off the older timeline (I/III, II/IV, then V) then some things would line up rather well (this would tell us, for example, that Wally being identical in appearance likely means SM are set a few years after ORAS, and this happening before DPPt adds up in that Cynthia is in her DPPt attire and not her Unova attire, which would have been much more appropriate in my opinion...) though others would not (namely Red and Green being roughly the same age as Wally; they're clearly, at bare minimum, 5 years older judging from their designs).

Forgetting the mess of a timeline that the Pokéverse is currently in when it comes to main series games, though, I think it's fair to say that Gen VI and Gen VII appear to take place in the same continuity, likely meaning that the events of Gen I took place earlier than they did before. Heck, perhaps the age gaps between some characters somewhat reflects the year gap between the release of one character's first appearance and another's, but who knows at this point?
 

JVLightningLover

Veteran Trainer
red even has 96 on his shirt. nice little touch there.

Yep, and I can't wait for people to tear into ash even more now that we have a clearly adult Red.
 

shadowF

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anyone think this is where we will rematch the new characters from sun and moon as well? like Hau, Gladion, Kahunas and maybe even the bad guys?

Also would love all the rivals to come back as well!
 

yefluke

Dizzy Trainer
anyone think this is where we will rematch the new characters from sun and moon as well? like Hau, Gladion, Kahunas and maybe even the bad guys?

Also would love all the rivals to come back as well!

Re-match would be nice... XY are quite disappoint that E4 haven't been upgraded after you beat the game.

And i hope we can battle trial captains eventually... if not, no point give them type specialist.
 
anyone think this is where we will rematch the new characters from sun and moon as well? like Hau, Gladion, Kahunas and maybe even the bad guys?

Also would love all the rivals to come back as well!

It's hard to tell, though I can definitely see some new characters being placed around the Battle Tree or on Poni Island for sure, and if not here, possibly at the Alolan League or just scattered around the islands.
 

Aetius

Well-Known Member
Damn, when Red and Blue popped up in the trailer I had the greatest fanboy moment of my life!
They look perfect, moreover they seem to be in their 20s this time around!
Can't wait to fight them once more!
And that Gary's Encounter Theme's remix is simply fantastic! Can't find the words to describe it!
The hype hasn't died down after all!
 

Mr.Munchlax

Great Ball Rank Trainer
I'd like to also say that I love the designs for Red and Blue. They looks so much older. How old do you all think they are? Because Red looks like a grown man.
Seeing as how this is Pokémon's 20th Anniversary, I'd guess that Red & Blue are at least in their mid-late 20s
 

PrinceOfFacade

Ghost-Type Master
Seeing as how this is Pokémon's 20th Anniversary, I'd guess that Red & Blue are at least in their mid-late 20s

Yeah, they're definitely 20 years old at least.

Seeing Red in such a way is eerie, yet incredibly fascinating and soothing. It shows that the franchise has indeed aged, and so has its fans.
 

mystic9899

Pokemon fan
in xy, an npc said that blue was able to get bonjour down, but still ended convos with "smell ya later!"

if he says "alola!" to me and ends with "smell ya later!" i will die happy
 

Wryteous

Rogue Trainer
The champion reveals were the biggest part of that trailer for me.

At last a rematch with Red.
Hopefully these encounters award the Legend Ribbon! I've got a number of pokemon I'd like to earn it for that never had the chance to battle at Mt Silver.
 

Grey Wind

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anyone think this is where we will rematch the new characters from sun and moon as well? like Hau, Gladion, Kahunas and maybe even the bad guys?

Also would love all the rivals to come back as well!

Yeah I could see that actually, although I think the Kahunas will probably take the place of the Elite 4.

I wonder if the Trial Captains will show up there.
 
in xy, an npc said that blue was able to get bonjour down, but still ended convos with "smell ya later!"

if he says "alola!" to me and ends with "smell ya later!" i will die happy

That would be amazing. Imagine if every champion got to say something relating to their own gimmick.

Blue: smell ya later!
Red: ...
Lance: idk for this one
Steven: rocks/steel types, I mean come on he is basically a fangirl
Wallace: *insert beauty comment here*
Cynthia: idk for this one
Alder: idk for this one
Iris: idk for this one
Diantha: her movies, maybe she end up on a tangent about starring in a movie in Alola

If they have an N one (which they had better do) then he should mention about how <insert number> years ago he was Team Plasma king, and then something really inspirational about how battling helps the bonds between humans and Pokemon grow.

(Omg)
I just thought. This tree thing is the perfect opportunity to see tons of bromances in action. Blue and Red, Steven and Wallace, etc etc etc... I am praying they do all this.
 
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