John Wallrein
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Currently unreleased, Genesect is the last Pokemon in the National Pokedex. It is a very powerful force, as seen in the Dream World Tier. With a very effective movepool and great defensive typing, Genesect finds itself being a very large threat. Genesect also has a good ability in Download, that it can almost always use to its advantage. Genesect can use the spA boost greatly with its Bolt/Beam, STAB Bug Buzz, or Flamethrower. Genesect can also benefit from the atk boost to throw powerful U-turns and X-scissors. Genesect does have its downfalls though. a base 99 speed leaves it in an undesirable speed tier, and allows it to be beat by base 100's such as Salamence with Fire Blast. This thread is here to discuss possible sets Genesect will use once it is released into standard play. This thread is also here to discuss if this Genesect will be "broken" enough to be removed from standard play and cast into the realm of Ubers.
Genesect has several useable offensive move options. These include:
- Bug Buzz
- Explosion
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- U turn
- X-scissor
* Note that its signature move, Techno Blast, is not worth using as Flamethrower,
Ice Beam, and Thunderbolt are all stronger versions of what Techno Blast could become.
Using these types for Techno Blast would also cause Genesect to lose out on a held item, which is also not worth it.
Support / Boosting Options:
- Charge Beam
- Light Screen
- Reflect
- Rock Polish
- Substitute
- Thunder Wave
- Toxic
Example Sets:
Genesect @ Life Orb
Download | Naive
4 HP/ 252 spA / 252 spe
- Bug Buzz
- Flamethrower
- Ice Beam
- U-turn
This Genesect can act as a very good mid / early game scout.
It can also function well to just put Pokemon in KO range of
your sweepers with its vast amount of coverage moves.
Genesect @ Choice Scarf / Choice Specs
Download | Naive / Timid
- Bug Buzz
- U-turn / Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Flamethrower / Thunderbolt
Very similar to the previous Genesect set, though this Genesect
uses a Choice Scarf to patch its not so spectacular 99 speed.
This can allow Genesect to function well as a revenge killer.
Genesect can also scout with U-turn very well.
If the choice specs is being used you could always opt to remove
U turn for one of the coverage moves, in which case Timid nature should be used to keep your defenses. The choice specs could also
be a powerful threat with a massive spA stat and huge array of type coverage.
Specialsect
Genesect @ Life Orb
Download
Modest
8 HP / 252 spA / 248 spe
- Bug Buzz
- Thunder/Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power [Fighting] / Flamethrower
Bug Buzz is the main STAB move, enough said. Thunderbolt and Ice Beam get perfect coverage together, bar Lanturn, who is never seen in OU, and Magnezone. Thunder can be used over Thunderbolt if you have Drizzle Politoad support. In the last slot, Hidden Power Fighting hits some of Genesect's potential counters, like Heatran and Magnezone. Flamethrower is similar, but sacrifices hits on Heatran for hits on Skarmory, Forretress, and Metagross. Flamethrower should also only be used with Thunderbolt, so when in the rain, which perfects Thunder's accuracy, Flamethrower's power is not weakened.
Download | Naive
4 HP/ 252 spA / 252 spe
- Bug Buzz
- Flamethrower
- Ice Beam
- U-turn
This Genesect can act as a very good mid / early game scout.
It can also function well to just put Pokemon in KO range of
your sweepers with its vast amount of coverage moves.
Genesect @ Choice Scarf / Choice Specs
Download | Naive / Timid
- Bug Buzz
- U-turn / Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Flamethrower / Thunderbolt
Very similar to the previous Genesect set, though this Genesect
uses a Choice Scarf to patch its not so spectacular 99 speed.
This can allow Genesect to function well as a revenge killer.
Genesect can also scout with U-turn very well.
If the choice specs is being used you could always opt to remove
U turn for one of the coverage moves, in which case Timid nature should be used to keep your defenses. The choice specs could also
be a powerful threat with a massive spA stat and huge array of type coverage.
Specialsect
Genesect @ Life Orb
Download
Modest
8 HP / 252 spA / 248 spe
- Bug Buzz
- Thunder/Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power [Fighting] / Flamethrower
Bug Buzz is the main STAB move, enough said. Thunderbolt and Ice Beam get perfect coverage together, bar Lanturn, who is never seen in OU, and Magnezone. Thunder can be used over Thunderbolt if you have Drizzle Politoad support. In the last slot, Hidden Power Fighting hits some of Genesect's potential counters, like Heatran and Magnezone. Flamethrower is similar, but sacrifices hits on Heatran for hits on Skarmory, Forretress, and Metagross. Flamethrower should also only be used with Thunderbolt, so when in the rain, which perfects Thunder's accuracy, Flamethrower's power is not weakened.
Checks / Counters:
- ;485; Heatran : Heatran takes any hit Genesect throws at it well, bar HP Ground and throws a powerful 4x Super Effective Fire move at it.
- ;462; Magnezone : Magnezone can trap and KO Genesect fairly easily with HP Fire. Magnezone must beware of Flamethrower from Genesect though.
- ;385; Jirachi : Specially defensive Jirachi can take a 3HKO from Genesect while being able to paralyze and cripple it or 1-2HKO it with a fire punch.
- ;113; Chansey : Eviolite Chansey fears absolutely nothing from Genesect. It's U-turn will be laughed at and obviously any Special move will as well. Lacking recovery, Genesect will lose health and go down
fast from Seismic Toss, or can be severly crippled by a T-Wave.
- :609: Chandelure : Chandelure really doesn't fear anything Genesect will carry. It can also threaten it with an extremely powerful STAB Fire move.
- :637: Volcarona : Volcarona can take any hit Genesect throws at it bar a Hiddden Power [Rock] . It can proceed to 1HKO with a STAB Fire move.
In conclusion, I personally can not wait until Genesect is released. I think it is a very interesting Pokemon and would like to see how it functions in standard play. Of course I am not against the ruling of it becoming Uber if it seems broken, though I really am not sure at the moment. It seems as though common threats like Heatran can really shut Genesect down. So I would like to see how you guys feel about Genesect. Also if you have any sets, or contributions you would like to make to this thread, feel free to post them.