Locormus
Can we please get the older, old forum back?
Skipping these games. Even if I had a Switch. They're just not for me. Every little bit I see that's released reaffirms that - despite me very often still replaying GenI even up to GenV - the apparent target demographic for Pokémon has changed and apparently excludes me.
Would I play GenI? Yes, I'm a bit tired of it, hence why I'm playing Emerald and Black atm, but yeah, I like those games and probably spent thousands of hours in Kanto.
Would I buy LetsGoPikachu/Eevee based on the material they've released what they're using to sell these games? Hell No.
In everything, the visuals seem very nice and that's great. But if the promotional material is to be believed, the core focus of these games isn't the adventure or the game aspect at all. It's just about being with your starter, grooming it, customizing it, petting it, feeding it, getting gifts from it, walking it. And that's fine. I've just come to realize that if that's what they're using for the promotional material, then I'm not the person they're wanting to buy their products any more. If they bring out a new Gen that's like GenV, hey, I'll be it! It's not me. It's them.
They're focusing on everything that pre-GenVI wasn't even a thing in pokémon games and they've definitely changed their target audience.
So that's pretty much the end of it for me.
It's not my thing to reply to page1 comments while we're on page5, but I just have to.
1. If being a fan doesn't allow for expressing personal hopes in the sights changing directions if one doesn't like the one franchise is currently following, then that person can only be called a criticaster and not a fan. If that person still sees him/herself as a fan, than that person must get a reality check to see that the current state of the franchise might not be geared towards him/her anymore. It's a sad truth. I love the pokémon games, GenI-IV, V a little bit less, XI is barely playable but in truth, it gets on my nerves, and GenVII is just downright not my cup of tea/unplayable for me. I can honestly say that I'm a fan of GenI-V, but that I'm not a fan of the main outings of GenVI and GenVII - and LetsGo as per what they've released thus far. Omega Ruby was nice though, mostly because the DexNav, which was gold.
2. These games indeed aren't replacing the "traditional" entries, the problem lies in the overarching differences made. Ever since GenVI (GenV arguably, because linearity), the games have been becoming simpler and simpler and simpler. Heck, the words used to describe LetsGo were to make it all simpler. In terms of overarching direction the franchise is becoming dumbed down and LetsGo looks like you only need one braincell to play. I think it's very fair to hope (even wanting to send a message, as childish as that is) that GameFreak at least tries to listen to fans that still want a challenge and don't want a repeat of the glorified handholding from start to finish that was Sun and Moon and pressing a Z-move to win almost every battle instantly.
3. You have to be living under a rock if you haven't seen the Kanto Spam everywhere. Yes, they didn't headline a game, and they weren't the second region since HGSS, but XY gave out Kanto Starters, had mostly GenI Mega's, Santalune Forest was basically Viridian Forest, SM only had Kanto Pokémon as Alolan Forms, etc. The list goes on.
4. They've gotten rid of wild battles and...? AND?! They've gotten rid of wild freaking battles, that's about 40-60% what you spend doing in a normal game! You're acting as if that's nothing but that's huge.
Would I play GenI? Yes, I'm a bit tired of it, hence why I'm playing Emerald and Black atm, but yeah, I like those games and probably spent thousands of hours in Kanto.
Would I buy LetsGoPikachu/Eevee based on the material they've released what they're using to sell these games? Hell No.
In everything, the visuals seem very nice and that's great. But if the promotional material is to be believed, the core focus of these games isn't the adventure or the game aspect at all. It's just about being with your starter, grooming it, customizing it, petting it, feeding it, getting gifts from it, walking it. And that's fine. I've just come to realize that if that's what they're using for the promotional material, then I'm not the person they're wanting to buy their products any more. If they bring out a new Gen that's like GenV, hey, I'll be it! It's not me. It's them.
They're focusing on everything that pre-GenVI wasn't even a thing in pokémon games and they've definitely changed their target audience.
So that's pretty much the end of it for me.
Which is absolutely what I said. This baseless fear that LGP/E will "infect" future iterations, and so people are begging for it to fail, even though there's no reason to think the former. It's precisely what I said - baseless, petty, and bitter. I'm aware that "fan" is an ugly enough word now that it means "selfish enough to demand the franchise cater only to them," but what if it didn't mean that for five minutes?
It would be a valid argument if these games were replacing the more traditional entries, but they aren't. Not even a little bit. They've said repeatedly that 2019's entries will be more traditional, and less like the changes being made for LGP/E. But even putting that aside, of course we don't know anything else about the games yet. They aren't going to reveal that until LGP/E have arrived and settled in for a few months
Kanto didn't headline its appearances in Generations II or IV, which was the precise wording I used - "headlining," as in "not the focus." And even if you do count that, HG/SS were a decade ago, which doesn't change my point much.
They've gotten rid of wild battles and...?
It's not my thing to reply to page1 comments while we're on page5, but I just have to.
1. If being a fan doesn't allow for expressing personal hopes in the sights changing directions if one doesn't like the one franchise is currently following, then that person can only be called a criticaster and not a fan. If that person still sees him/herself as a fan, than that person must get a reality check to see that the current state of the franchise might not be geared towards him/her anymore. It's a sad truth. I love the pokémon games, GenI-IV, V a little bit less, XI is barely playable but in truth, it gets on my nerves, and GenVII is just downright not my cup of tea/unplayable for me. I can honestly say that I'm a fan of GenI-V, but that I'm not a fan of the main outings of GenVI and GenVII - and LetsGo as per what they've released thus far. Omega Ruby was nice though, mostly because the DexNav, which was gold.
2. These games indeed aren't replacing the "traditional" entries, the problem lies in the overarching differences made. Ever since GenVI (GenV arguably, because linearity), the games have been becoming simpler and simpler and simpler. Heck, the words used to describe LetsGo were to make it all simpler. In terms of overarching direction the franchise is becoming dumbed down and LetsGo looks like you only need one braincell to play. I think it's very fair to hope (even wanting to send a message, as childish as that is) that GameFreak at least tries to listen to fans that still want a challenge and don't want a repeat of the glorified handholding from start to finish that was Sun and Moon and pressing a Z-move to win almost every battle instantly.
3. You have to be living under a rock if you haven't seen the Kanto Spam everywhere. Yes, they didn't headline a game, and they weren't the second region since HGSS, but XY gave out Kanto Starters, had mostly GenI Mega's, Santalune Forest was basically Viridian Forest, SM only had Kanto Pokémon as Alolan Forms, etc. The list goes on.
4. They've gotten rid of wild battles and...? AND?! They've gotten rid of wild freaking battles, that's about 40-60% what you spend doing in a normal game! You're acting as if that's nothing but that's huge.