1. We have moved to a new forum system. All your posts and data should have transferred over. Welcome, to the new Serebii Forums. Details here
    Dismiss Notice
  2. Be sure to join the discussion on our discord at: Discord.gg/serebii
    Dismiss Notice
  3. If you're still waiting for the e-mail, be sure to check your junk/spam e-mail folders
    Dismiss Notice

Green, Green Grass Types of Home! (861)

Discussion in 'Pokémon the Series: XY - Kalos Quest' started by Serebii, Jan 29, 2015.

  1. Serebii

    Serebii And, as if by magic, the webmaster appeared... Staff Member Admin

    Coumarine Gym Match! Frogadier VS Gogoat!!

    After the long trek to Coumarine City, Ash finally reaches the gym and challenges Ramos to a battle so that he can earn his fourth badge in the Kalos region. While Ramos uses Grass-type Pokémon, he really causes issues with Ash by using various different types of moves. As the battle nears its climax, Ash sends out Frogadier against Ramos' Grass-type Pokémon, knowing full well that he is at a type disadvantage. What strategy does Ash have up his sleeve and will he be able to win?

    Visit The Episode Guide

    Discuss
     
  2. playerking

    playerking Sick of dealing with idiots.

    The episode starts with Serena dreaming that she and Fennekin are about to perform in a Pokemon Showcase.

    She then falls out of bed.

    Ash and Pikachu are running as the sun is rising.

    Ash and Pikachu are pumped about his upcoming Gym Battle with Ramos.

    It's a bit later during the day and Ash and co. have arrived at the Coumarine City Gym.

    They climb the tree all the way to the top, in order to get to the gym.

    They've reached the top, where the battlefield is.

    Clemont is puffed as he reaches the top.

    There is a greenhouse near the battlefield.

    Ramos brings Ash and co. into his library for tea.

    Ash isn't that happy because he really wants to battle.

    Ash is now picking some berries from Ramos's garden patch.

    Ramos is showing Ash a plant that has just started growing.

    The gym battle is now about to begin.

    Ash asks Bonnie to take care of Goomy, so that Goomy can watch the gym battle.

    Ramos brings out Jumpluff.

    Serena checks Jumpluff on her Pokedex.

    Ash brings out his Fletchinder.

    The battle starts.

    Fletchinder uses Flame Charge and Jumpluff uses Cotton Guard to protect itself.

    Jumpluff keeps dodging and then eventually gets hit by Flame Charge.

    It uses Cotton Guard while it is being attacked.

    Jumpluff then falls to the ground and gets knocked out.

    Ramos then brings out Weepinbell, which Serena checks on her Pokedex as well.

    Fletchinder uses Flame Charge and Weepinbell dodged.

    Weepinbell then releases a Poison Powder type attack.

    Fletchinder is poisoned and then Weepinbell attacks with Razor Leaf.

    Weepinbell is in the air and then uses Slam on Fletchinder.

    Fletchinder gets knocked out.

    Dare Da? Gogoat.

    Ash calls out Hawlucha who starts off by using Flying Press.

    Hawlucha then tries to use Hi-Jump Kick but it gets poisoned and hurt from missing Weepibell.

    Weepinbell uses Slam on Hawlucha and then Grass Knot.

    Hawlucha attacks Weepinbell with Hi-Jump Kick, but Weepinbell uses Slam again.

    Hawlucha gets knocked out.

    Ash then brings out Frogadier.

    Frogadier uses Double Team to confuse Weepinbell.

    Weepinbell tries to focus on Frogadier and then trips him with Grass Knot.

    Weepinbell then fires Razor Leaf and follows it with Poison Powder/Toxic.

    Frogadier uses Double Team Again and then cut on Weepinbell's Grass Knot.

    Weepinbell then gets cut by Frogadier, causing Weepinbell to get defeated.

    Ramos then sends out his Gogoat.

    Frogadier uses Double Team but Gogoat stops it with Vine Whip.

    Gogoat uses Vine Whip to attack Frogadier again.

    Ramos is now having a talk with Gogoat.

    Frogadier goes to attack Gogoat with Cut.

    Gogoat misses and then Frogadier uses Double Team again.

    Gogoat uses Leech Seed on the multiple Frogadier clones.

    Ramos then commands Gogoat to use Horn Leech, which Gogoat does.

    It attacks Frogadier.

    Gogoat follows that up by using Leech Seed again.

    Frogadier is in bad shape, so Pikachu cheers Ash on.

    Gogoat uses Razor Leaf to surround Frogadier.

    Ash remembers what Ramos told him back at the garden bed.

    Frogadier slashes the Razor Leaf and then jumps in the air.

    Frogaider slams a Water Pulse on Gogoat and Gogoat is defeated.

    Ash has won his 4th Gym match.

    Frogadier jumps and knocks over Ash in excitement.

    Goomy looks really happy.

    Ash gets given the Plant Badge.

    Ash celebrates his victory with a pose, alongside Pikachu, Fletchinder, Hawlucha and Frogadier.

    To be continued.
     
    Last edited: Jan 29, 2015
  3. Ash&Pikachu-Fan

    Ash&Pikachu-Fan Pika-Speed

    Wow, the way the episode started out was great, Serena dreaming and then seeing Ash training up early for his gym battle.

    Anyway, the way the gym looked was cool, like the games. The big tree has a forest on top of it.. o_O I like Ramos a lot too, he was cool, it was funny and nice seeing him 'teaching' Ash I suppose?

    It was great to see Goomy watching! Fletchinder was first and got a win which was great, too bad Hawlucha didn't. Frogadier was good, I liked Frogadier vs Gogoat a lot. The gym battle was good, Ash and Ramos were both good too.

    The way Ramos plays with his scissors..

    8/10
     
  4. Locormus

    Locormus Can we please get the old forum back?

    I'm glad that Fletchinder and Frogadier got wins in this, and I'm not wholesomely surprised that (even after the preview showcasing Hawlucha kicking butt) Hawlucha got owned by a Weepinbell.. Fighting is not very effective on Poison, so it's a legitimate loss. Really don't understand why (according to playerking) Frogadier then finished off Gogoat with a Water Pulse. Wasn't Aerial Ace supposed to be the clincher here?
     
  5. DaDonYordel

    DaDonYordel The Gazing Eye

    ****ing great episode. If not for the 2nd Viola episode this would have been my favorite battle. Ramos is certainly not a pushover. No sirree, no "Ash sweeps; Ramos weeps" here, even though Ash wanted to try doing so.

    The battle was very fast despite taking up the entire episode, though this is because of Ash's frantic desire to gain the badge as fast as he could, a fact that Ramos notes and is the "development" per se of this episode. Ramos adheres to stalling, waiting for the right moment before attacking, using a poison attack in order to cut down his opponents health as long as it is in battle or using stat-upping moves.

    That is the first part, which Ash powers completely through with the use of Fletchinder. It fails however with Hawlucha, but succeeds again using Frogadier.

    I'm glad Ash wasn't completely helpess until her learned that epiphany. He made good use of the Frubbles and bloody surprised me after having Frogadier attack after Gogoat used what? Frenzy Plant was it? The giant tree thing. Anyway, it was a worthy battle and am glad Ash won.

    Also, VOLT! The producers seem really fond of using that and the sweeping 3d shots of the scenery. Glad Goomy was there to witness the battle.
     
  6. phanpycross

    phanpycross God-king

    Did frogadier even use aerial ace at all during the battle?
     
  7. WillDaSnail

    WillDaSnail Soon™?

    This was indeed a really good episode.

    Typical of Ash's behavior, it was clear he wanted to start the gym battle ASAP and get it over with quickly. Nope, not so fast, Ramos ain't gonna let you sweep him 3-0, even if you had two team members with a clear type advantage. While Fletchinder made Jumpluff look too easy, Weepingbell was a problem for both Fletchinder and Hawlucha, taking them both out via some sort of stalling strategy: using and landing a poison status attack (Toxic, perhaps?) to weaken both of those 'mons over time, followed by Slam and Razor Leaf attacks when both of them 'mons got in striking range.

    Glad to see that Gogoat was no pushover, and that it was clearly Ramos's ace on his team. Despite the obvious type advantage, I was happy to see that Ash used his pre-battle experiences (i.e. pulling weeds) to think outside the box and to direct Frogadier to take out Gogoat and win himself the badge. Also Goomy witnessing the battle was nice as well. Hopefully the affectionate slug will use everything it saw to help it become stronger later down the line.
     
    Last edited: Jan 29, 2015
  8. UltimateNinja

    UltimateNinja ~Ice Cold~

    I really got suprised, that Frogadier was dealing with two Pokemon with disadvantage (instant 10/10 for me). This gym battle was really good and on paar with the Shalour Match.

    9/10
     
  9. Afrodisiac

    Afrodisiac break up w yo gf, im bored

    Yes it did. It looked like cut's animation but it was Tsubame Gaeshi..
     
  10. nickdt

    nickdt Well-Known Member

    Wow! What are they doing with the bird. It is almost never shown. Is it that powerful, that it becomes Ash ace at the league. The Gogoat vs Frogadier was just awesome. The best battle ever. It had everything in it.
     
  11. Afrodisiac

    Afrodisiac break up w yo gf, im bored

    I loved Frogadier's stance when it was sent out.

    Nice ep. It was sad to see Hawlucha being the fall guy here. Don't care for the other bird honestly but it's nice to see Jumpluff in action. I'm surprised Frogadier got 2 wins here, but he needed them anyway so it's fine.
     
  12. Xuxuba

    Xuxuba Well-Known Member

    5/10
    "Let's just use the same scene several times and hope no one will notice". I would be okay with it if it weren't for the fact that this is a gym battle episode.
    It looks like Hawlucha became a pushover. Well, we get one every season, but at least they could've gone for one who wasn't flying (i'm tired of flying pokemons) and was capable of evolving so it could give a false idea of progression.
    Btw am i the only one who's tired of that "wait until you can attack him" bs? They use that idea every freaking season for the past 17 years. The worst part is that they act like Ash was brilliant for thinking this, when it should come naturally to him after all the battles where he had to wait until he could attack the pokemon.
     
  13. Rizardon

    Rizardon Boulder Trainer

    If you ask me, Weepinbell is the real ace on Ramos' team. Took out two of Ash' Pokemon and still put up a fight against Greninja.

    Was nice seeing a Gogoat in action though, rather than just being used to ride on.
     
  14. K.N.

    K.N. Well-Known Member

    The way the episode started out was really great, a lot different than what we usually get.
    Fletchinder's battles were really good, but I'm surprised they didn't mention how Sunny Day enhances Flame Charge. Weepinbell was great too, Flying Press isn't super effective on it like a lot of them seem to imply it was, so I guess you could handwave Hawlucha being a jobber here. Hawlucha took a lot of hits before he went down, too. The title battle was actually the most disappointing part for me, a couple nice moments broke up by another silly gimmick win, made worse by lots of stock footage. I miss things like back when Ash did things like spending several episodes honing his strategy against Brawly, or how in D/P he had several consistent strategies he used many times.
    Episode also gets plus like a million points because Pikachu does nothing and Ash actually lets Goomy watch and learn. Also the badge pose had the other 3 guys instead of just Ash and Pikachu.
     
  15. Mr.Munchlax

    Mr.Munchlax Thunder Trainer

    Personally, I like this episode. They may have rehashed a few scenes and the lesson about waiting patiently until the right moment, but it worked with this episode and gives Ash a bit of character development since he was always so obsessed with getting a gym badge before anything else, especially after the writers pushed the reset button on him for BW. Even though Hawlucha was the fall guy, I thought that each of the battles were paced pretty well & showed off each of Ash's pokémon pretty well. Plus, while Pikachu & Goomy didn't battle here, they both got some pretty good moments as well since they were able to see the match.

    Also, there were two little nit-picks in this episode that I personally thought made it even better:
    1. Instead of just having Pikachu by his side like the last three gym battles, all of the pokémon Ash used in the gym battle stood behind him when he was flashing his victory pose after winning the Plant Badge (which was something that I especially loved seeing in DP & BW)
    2. I may be wrong about this, but I think they used music from OS when Ash and Pikachu were training in the beginning of the episode
     
  16. Dax

    Dax R.I.P Dax

    They need to do something about Hawlucha. I remember everyone thought Fletchinder would be affected by Hawlucha's inclusion on Ash's team, but it seems like the opposite happens. The bird keeps growing and Hawlucha remains stagnant. Still, I liked the battle and I'm happy Frogadier has become such an incredible force. My only complaint is that Ash didn't rely on Aerial Ace. It felt like a waste of time to give the frog that attack.
     
  17. Captain America X

    Captain America X Well-Known Member

    Those blades were Aerial Ace,not Cut.
     
  18. Rohanator

    Rohanator Well-Known Member

    Yeah, Frogadier didn't use Cut a single time in the episode.
     
  19. Toxic Drapion

    Toxic Drapion Sinnoh League Champ

    Can we all take a minute to appreciate how amazing that Weepinbell was? XD
     
  20. Lord Trollbias

    Lord Trollbias Y'all Salty Bishes

    And to think we all thought Gogoat would be the key party here. Nope Weepinbell wrecked house.
     

Share This Page