Groudon, Rayquaza and Kyogre - Angels?

[Torena No Nazo]

Well does this look like a female to you? It's an angel from Neon Genesis, "Lilith" supposedley the mother of all creation. Which would make sense in correspondance with Mew.

Oh, and I thought the Regi were also creations of mankind. Or am I horribly wrong? They could be an attempt of mankind trying to imitate a divine power. And that's why they were locked away, because they failed.

Maybe. I doubt they'd just "Find" some ledgendary Pokemon and lock them away just because they were too strong. Every ledgendary Pokemon is strong.

EDIT : This is a better picture I think.

 

[adamgnome]

Argh, go to the, "What Pokemon are based on topic" and look at all three of them.

Groudon and Kyogre are based on Behemoth and Leviathan.

I guess you could go as far as to say that the end time from "Behemoth" and "Leviathan" could've created the Pokemon world.

www.wikipedia.com <Wikipedia Behemoth and Leviathan.

Everything about angels you said is interesting...but...doesn't make much sense.

And comparing Pokemon to Neon Genesis Evangelion? WTF?! ;249-d;

 

[Torena No Nazo]

It makes perfect sense to me. Because I'm strange and annoying.

 

[DKzM0mA]

It's a theory but the Neon Genesis is weirdO_O

I like how scarp leveled the legendaries*thumbs up* It makes sense. I don't exactly know how the regis were created but I don't think humans created things that powerful O_O.

 

[Torena No Nazo]

I'm pretty sure I read something like that though on the Braille messages in Hoenn...

 

[spriter]

Mew's tiny, do you really think she could contain the DNA of all Pokemon? ;D

this has nothing to do with this subject Ontopic:Rayquaza stoped ther fighting to keep the land they made from being destroyed, Right?

 

[indigestible_wad]

I don't think there's much to it. I imagine the sky was formed first, then rains fell, and then the earth was raised. I think that's the order of events it happened for Earth, unless my knowledge is wrong.

EDIT: Um....no. o.o;;; Is that true? If it was, it wasn't in the games. --;

Actually the earth was formed first. the atmosphere and oceans came basically at the same time, because water evaporated and created a temporary atmosphere, but the actual atmosphere that we know of didn't come for quite some time. Then the earth rose back up out of the sea again, and then the atmosphere we know, which was perfected by the marine plants and such. Atleast, that's how I see it.

 

[Lil Brother]

I've always like the idea hat they're just big ol' strong Pokemon with the Drought and Drizzle abilities. The two of them are so huge that they are almost always hibernating. Humans, beliving them to be gods, created the Red and Blue orbs, which (although they didn't really know) kind of kick-start their hormones, awakening them and getting them very ticked off, ala rampage. Not legendary, just freakin' strong.

XD I mainly like that because there are too many real "Gods" running around Pokeworld.

 

[Shadowcat]

They are called 'Ancients' or 'Titans' not 'Angels'. Kyogre and Groudon are Titans that expand the sea, and Rayquaza is the other titan who stops their battle. That's all, they're not really considered Angels.

 

[Torena No Nazo]

Eh. I consider them angels.

 

[Another Fan]

I always considered them the gods that created the world. As in legends. First there was nothing, then there was mew, etc. You know. To me, they are gods not angels. I don't see who would they be angels to. I like accepting pokemon world having gods because they already have the paranormal and supernatural. I see no reason not to. Also, it is fun making theories on the subject. Do you want to hear?

 

[Kveran]

I'd call them gods, but not angels. My hierarchy tends to run alongside Scrap's, but I bumped Lugia up and Jirachi down:

Gods/Psychic Triad: Mew (Air), Celebi (Earth), Lugia (Water)
Demi-Gods: Jirachi (Dreams), Houou (Resurrection)
Location-specific Gods: Have jurisdiction only over a specific area but opinions can be overruled by the Triad. Rayquaza (Air; jurisdiction over Hoenn), Groudon (Ground; Hoenn), Kyogre (Water; Hoenn), Latios and Latias (Alto Mare)
Avatars/Messengers: Legendary Bird triad, Legendary Beast triad, Regirock/Registeel/Regice

 

[Torena No Nazo]

Well, back to Neon Genesis again, the Angels are bad. They kill people. It's against the usual concept. Yet they are Angels. See? My theory is derived from this. So why not.

 

[ProtoManEXE88]

They don't call them gods because the churches would be over them more than they already are.

 

[adamgnome]

Well, back to Neon Genesis again, the Angels are bad. They kill people. It's against the usual concept. Yet they are Angels. See? My theory is derived from this. So why not.

:|

The Angels in Neon Genesis Evangelion, were a mistranslation of the word messanger. They're the messangers.

Groudon = Behemoth
Kyogre = Leviathan

In the Bible they were said to be hugeassed monstered that would battle at the end of times. Sound familar?

 

[mewtwo1414141414]

"Kyogre" is a Romanization of the original Japanese name Kaiohga, meaning "Ocean-Orca". The "orca" was changed by the translators to "ogre". Therefore, its English name should be pronounced "Kai-oh-guhr." Since orcas are the largest members of the dolphin family, Kyogre is a big blue orca that summons rain into battle."

Quoted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyogre
But he is based off of Leviathan(at least thats what I think).

 

[Professor Ivy]

I sort of imagined the hierachy to follow as goes:

Transcendent: Mew, created all life (she has everyone's DNA so I assumed everything came from her.) Celebi, watches over time's progression. Jirachi, guardian of the stars or fate or whatever. >.o

First-Level Titans: Ho-oh, resurrects (resumption) and Lugia, watches over the oceans. Groudon, Kyogre, Rayquaza, controls the weather correspondant to each element.

Second-Level: Latios and Latias, guardian of Altomare...Regirock, Registeel, Regice, guardians of whatever but were sealed away due to being too powerful.

Third-Level: The three birds and beasts were created by Lugia and Ho-oh, and serve as overseers of the land, watching and stuff. o.o;

Zapdos and the others are of waether too. And the Entei and them are watchers of Ho-Oh.

 

[mewtwo1414141414]

"Biology
Kyogre, physically, is a whale with large fins in the shape of heiroglyphic wings, and a stylized bird-like tail instead of typical flukes. Kyogre represents the primal force of the oceans, opposed to Groudon (the primal force of the land), and as such it has the power to bring forth storms, constant rain, and massive floods. It is part of the creation myth of the nameless world Pokémon is set in; according to legend, a titanic battle between it and Groudon created the oceans and the land, and the two were sealed beneath their respective elements.

Kyogre and Groudon have a relationship similar to the Leviathan and Behemoth in Jewish mythology. In Jewish mythology, Leviathan is the primal unstoppable monster of the oceans, just as Behemoth is the primal unconquerable monster of the land. (Rayquaza may also be based on Ziz, another creature of Jewish mythology, as according to one Jewish myth the meat of the three creatures is to be served at the banquet at the End Times. This link is somewhat more tenative, however.) Their appearances are even similar to the traditional depictions of the creatures from Jewish myth: Kyogre is a stylized whale, and Groudon is a sloped, heavily-built quadruped with a particularly powerful tail."

Quoted from, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyogre

So Groudon and Kyogre are based off of Behemoth and Leviathan but it's new too me that Rayquaza could be based off of Ziz(who I never ever herd of).
Here is information on Ziz, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziz

 

[adamgnome]

Mewtwo, that was all in the "What Pokemon are based on." topic awhile back. X_x

But I never saw that article and it sums it all up, and is a nice find!!

It's also interesting that the three Regi Pokemon are based on Jewish mythlodgy too. It's also weird that apparently Rukario controls them or something. Maybe the next Generation legendaries will be Egyptian? <All that's a bit offtopic though.

 

[Dark Venusaur]

Thats what I thought to Mewtwo1414141414 about the Biology about Groundon and Kyroge.

;003;Dark Venusaur;003;