So a handful of ignorant red necks suddenly is a blanket statement for the entire country?
And you're right, that is why they attacked us: because we let people believe what they wanted to, because we let people do and say and build what was lawful. I know you may dislike the legal angle in this argument, but the pressure from these protests sorta undoes and yet upholds what the terrorists dislike about us: our freedoms. That's why this mosque will either be a victory flag to al-Qaeda or affirm their wild beliefs that Muslims and the Western world cannot co-exist.
So lets uphold our own sensitivities, and give the finger to al Qaeda?
Yeah... except the man was
A: Drunk
B: A Liberal
C: SUPPORTIVE OF THE MOSQUE
nikohesus said:
Guys, what are you trying to prove with your posts? That Islam is evil in any way? And the mosque still isn't insensitive unless one is still blinded by the lie that muslims were responsible for 9/11, when in fact it was the terrorists' faults.
We have already been through this, do you have a reading or comprehension problem? It is Islam's fault, again no one would have had a problem if it were a bunch of Muslim's building a bakery.
nikohesus said:
It is NOT a victory flag from al-Qaeda, people need to stop saying that!
Yeah it pretty much is, hell even Muslims see it as that
nikohesus said:
Already hate crimes are happening, and I'm pretty worried. I'm twelve years old, I'm supposed to be worried that people might take the law into their own hands.
The guy was drunk, and supportive of the Mosque, don't blow this out of proportions.
nikohesus said:
If there were a sign saying "We won" on the center I would agree with this, but I don't.
The Mosque itself is a "We Won" victory sign for them, their goal is to spread Islam, and having a Mosque in and of itself next to Islam's greatest attack, especially made by a guy who is a al Qaeda apologist is essentially a victory dance.
nikohesus said:
Do you want to say that it's the truth that Christians carried out the Holocausts? Do you understand how I feel?
Holocaust was not religiously motivated anywhere close to the scale these attacks were.
nikohesus said:
Al-Qaeda wants to destroy America, not spread Islam. This whole paragraph sounds prejudiced, considering the center is a place of worship. The Imam wants to put it near Ground Zero to start this whole situation, I don't like it either.
Al Qaeda has repeatedly said they wish to spread Islam across the world, which is why Bin Laden offered us a truce if we were to convert to Islam.
SunnyC said:
If you want the truth, BigLutz, I don't think the Gulf War was the right thing to do.
So a nation violates the UN and goes to war with a peaceful country, the UN goes in to defend that country, and we stay back? Not only would that cost more lives, but it would have a real possibility that Kuwait would be under the control of a mad man who is known to slaughter hundreds of thousands.
SunnyC said:
We shouldn't take sides in the Middle East, otherwise it leads to culturally insulting things like having military forces in Mecca.
So our ally, who is fearing and rightfully so, that Saddam would turn his attention toward them next, asks for our help and we say what "**** off?" How freaking cold man.
SunnyC said:
Interventionist policies are screwing up our economy by throwing away billions of dollars into the desert for twenty-year wars that are becoming increasingly impossible to win.
Psst the Gulf War or Operation Desert Storm was between August 2, 1990 – February 28, 1991
SunnyC said:
One should also ask why Osama's attack came out of the blue so suddenly, twenty years later, but all I know is, sources all over the world, all over the NYC area, even in international prisons, even in the stock market, knew it was coming, the fact that there was going to be an attack on 9/11 was not a carefully kept secret. And there's the irony that 9-11 is the number you call for an emergency, in America...and the fact that it happened on the supposed year of the new Millenium, 01...and they attacked at dawn...
Okay first you are coming dangerously close to being labeled a ****ing nut as you are straying into the areas of 9/11 conspiracy theorist. Second, his attack did not come out of the blue, Osama Bin Laden had been at war with us since 1993. The Kobar Towers, the Saudi Arabia bombings, the Day of Destruction, the Embassy Bombings, the New Year Eve attempt, the USS Cole, all of these were Osama Bin Laden attacks or attempts.
Learn some history
SunnyC said:
When I look at these protests, I see people who lost their sons in the Iraq War, but although they claim to speak for the families of the victims of 9/11, I don't see any official representation from these families. Link me to some if I'm wrong, I tried to search
Proven Wrong Again
SunnyC said:
think the people building the mosque have the property rights and the money and the freedom of religion on their side, and all the protest has is public pressure. So what? There are protests in front of the Planned Parenthood center in my neighborhood and it doesn't close. There was a huge gay rights protest on Washington, probably ten times larger than this protest, that believed it was in bad taste to ban mentioning your sexual orientation in the military, and we're still waiting around for the repeal of DADT.
Yeah tell me when those issues reach 72% against across America, and THEN you can make the comparison.
SunnyC said:
Then let me put it this way for you: they don't worship the same Allah as the terrorists do. Just like Hitler doesn't pray to the same Christ as you do. Does it make sense that every religion has good people and bad people, or does this escape you too?
Really? Did Allah justify and give permission to Mohammad's bloody and deadly attacks across the Middle East? Those same justifications used today by terrorists?
SunnyC said:
And does it matter whether Al Qaeda sees this as a victory flag? Now we're fighting a war to control what Al Qaeda thinks? Why should we care what they think as long as they're internationally wanted in caves while we have the biggest arsenal in the world ravaging the Middle East ready to send them into the afterlife when they come into view? Think realistically here, not self-consciously!
Of course it matters, we are at war with them, they killed thousands, the last thing we need to give them is a morale boost and psychological victory that this provides.