Fused said:
Yes, because everyone in Tennessee is a red neck who only supports the KKK and hates black people. You're dancing around the issue and being offensive at the same time. Again, you want the Muslims to be respectful, yet you only refer to Tennesseans as rednecks.
Last time I checked, Murfreesboro Tennessee, a tiny town in the middle of no where, with only a population of 80,000 isn't representative of the entire state, but of a small town with small town mentality.
Fused said:
Yes, but how many Muslims cab drivers got violently attacked last night in New York? Politics are perverted. If this was an issue about racial equality, the big news flash would be that a black family was burned to death or if it was a sex issue the news flash would be a woman who was brutally beaten by her husband.
Besides that, the link I gave reported other incidents besides the cabbie.
Except this is a issue to paint the opposition as driving these violence when there is absolutely no proof that opposition to the Mosque played a part, infact there is more proof that it didn't play a part than it did.
Fused said:
Again, he's been in Afghanistan while this issue has been going on, while the center gave its support to the mosque. Also, if you were going to make a point, would you go after people who you've befriended and who only have loose ties to the issue or go after a stranger who has a more obvious connection to the issue?
If I was violent enough to kill some one, I would have gone after my friends as I felt betrayed. Not to mention if he had such anti Muslim hatred it would have manifested in Afghanistan.
Again the most logical explanation is a drunken rage, that happens to a great majority of people when they do get drunk.
World War I and II were both caused by a chain of countries who had to get tangled up in the fray because they were protecting their ally.
Correction World War 1 was, World War 2 was caused by three Psychotic nutjobs willing to expand their country and power in a bit for regional to world domination.
If we had taken Hussein up on his negotiations to withdraw from Kuwait, we wouldn't have had to go in there guns blazing. As I read it, we ignored several of his offers to negotiate. With the U.S. and the U.N's history of imperialism, what were we doing suddenly criminalizing Hussein for his expansionist ideals?
You mean other wise that the UN made it criminal to invade a peaceful country in such a matter? Also curious as to where you believe the U.N. has a history of imperialism.
By the way it is idiotic to say we should accept Saddam's negotiations to prevent the war. His very first one was for Israel to withdraw from Palestine, and for Syria to withdraw from Lebannon, his second negotiation came AFTER the war had started.
How would it cost more lives even? It's always about what "costs more lives". We drop a nuclear bomb on civilians in Hiroshima and our excuse is "If we hadn't stopped the war more lives would have been lost".
Because it would have, anyone with a iota of knowledge on X Day knew that those in Washington were saying that the Japanese Civilian Death Count alone would have been between 1 - 8 million people, based on how fiercely loyal the civilians were during other battles leading up to the proposed invasion of Japan. The civilians essentially were willing to kill themselves before being taken in by Americans, if we did not drop the bomb a large part of Japan's populous would have died.
We drop bombs on Iraq killing civilians and devastating their infrastructure, and just say "If we hadn't stopped the war lives would have been lost".
Yes, because when you are end the war as quickly as possible the last thing you want is to give the enemy power and phone lines so that they can make calls to their troops and talk tactics. Not taking out the infrastructure would have only strung out battles and possibly cost more civilian lives as you would have more and longer fire fights.
Who's labeling me? You? I don't really mind then. You do have a history of labeling people, after all, you've already labeled Islam as responsible for 9/11.
So you deny having any 9/11 Truther beliefs?
Whoops spoke too soon, you are a ****ing idiot
SunnyC said:
Salmon Rushdie was prevented from boarding planes two weeks before 9/11 - there's a fatwa on his head, so obviously there was knowledge that there was going to be an Islamic faction targeting the airways that day. That's common knowledge though, besides from that:
Or it could be because there was a Fatwa on his head, and they did not want to possibly have a plane attacked by having him travel to America?
SunnyC said:
- "Russia Warned of a Huge Destabilizing Attack on the U.S."
- "The Phillipines Warned the U.S."
- "Anonymous Person(s) in the Cayman Islands Warned of the Attack
- "Iranian Detainee Warned the U.S."
- "Isreal Warned the U.S."
Links and proof from reputable sources
SunnyC said:
"People Knew Beforehand About Attacks" - On September 10th 2001, a fifth grader in a Dallas suburb made...a declaration to his teacher; "Tomorrow, World War III will begin. It will begin in the United States, and the United States will lose." ...the boy is multiracial but...does not believe his ethnicity includes a Middle Eastern background.
So let me get this straight, a child says something crazy, and some how he had foreknowledge of attacks that NO ONE else had? Not the media? Not the Government? No one but this child? Just a question but ARE YOU ****ING INSANE?
And...the Gulf War ended in '91...and the first strike from Bin Laden started in '93...not the massive gap in time you formerly implied, isn't it? Indeed it didn't come out of the blue!
We were talking about 9/11, which as I proved didn't come out of the Blue. If you want to be disproven even more, then I will point out that Bin Laden had to form his organization, gather terrorist minds who knew how to make bombs, hire suicide bombers, plan the attack, and then carry it out.
Even having a up and going operation terror attacks are planned in years, not months or days. 9/11 took 4 years to plan, prepare, and execute, starting in 1997.
You don't think gay rights is an issue that hasn't pervaded the four corners of America? Wait - stupid question - it's you I'm talking to. Different people use different polls to make their point.
I don't think you will find that 72% of America agree with a certain view of Gay Rights. It is a stupid belief to think other wise, there are very few things that unite such large swaths of this country.
Different times, evolving religion, people take what they want and use it to do what they want, it's more hateful overseas where they're at war, more docile here in the U.S. where it has evolved. Already explained it to you.
Muslims pride themselves in saying that the Qu'ran is untouched, unchaged, so it is ignorant to say it is a evolving religion when the basis of their religion has remained untouched since the beginning. Now that doesn't mean that there are Muslims that ignore the violent half of their religion, but even in the docile U.S. we still have a problem with Wahhabism in mosques in America, and we even have FBI checking out mosques to make sure there is nothing squirly going on there.
Give me a break, morale and psychological motivation is not going to give them the ability to fly and suddenly overcome fighter drones. This is some vicarious battle you're talking about that's only for the satisfaction of the people fighting it. Obviously you'll never completely shatter their morale, you don't even get updates on what their morale is, and as long as people continue to hate and fear them, as is logical in wartime, they will never percieve their moral as shattered enough. It is a losing battle.
Actually we can get updates on their morale from inside sources as well as other updates. Also morale and psychological motivation is a important part of war, as it allows for the enemy to make more devastating attacks, to overcome set backs and hurtles, and to allow them to be more brazen in battle.