Everyone who think Grovyle is weird I just cannot understand o_o Grovyle, IMO is the Pokémon character (out of EVERY Pokémon character, Pokémon, humans from all the games) with the deepest and most interesting character. I'd even go so far as to say he (specifically, this one from PMD2) is my favourite character in all of Pokémon.
When you think about his life (the parts we know of it anyway) and death, you realise how magnificently done it all is.
We first see him as a bad guy, but as the plot progresses, we start to question whether he really is (after he helps you flee from Dusknoir). Then when we find out the truth, our opinion on him changes massively. We see how his character adapts to the different situations around him, we see him in moments of hopelesness... and of hope. We see different parts of his personality, his usual, cool, determined self, a change to that when he discovers who you really are, and obviously, the last time we see him, where he protects you and sacrifices himself, and we really see him putting all his strength into allowing you to proceed with your ultimate goal (and holding down Dusknoir for that matter).
When he released the Time Gears, you can really see, how this really is it for him, the mission which he'd dedicated himself to, he's now putting into your and your partners hands. And you know, he's going to be gone forever (;_
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I don't know about the rest of you, but I was really touched by Grovyle, especially in his goodbye speech. I felt he was a VERY well made character, and was very sad to see him go, though that added to his greatness. THAT was the sadest momemnt in any Pokémon game, way moreso than when you (the player) has to disappear (in both MD games).
Those of you who think he's weird make me wonder. Perhaps you find him weird because of how well-done his character is, and how powerful his last moments are, and don't know how to react to that?
sometimes, i just think that he was just a misunderstood being corrupted by power, he is not the only one. In the Legend of Zelda:Majora's Mask, Skull Kid is corupted by the evil powers within the Majora's Mask so Grovyle could be like skull Kid.
This really makes me wonder whether you've actually played the game, or are very confused. Grovyle is not evil in the slightest. He is not corrupted in the slightest, either
He was misunderstood earlier on the game but thats for obvious reasons. I just cannot see where you're getting him being evil or corrupted from!?!
Armored Dragon gave a good answer to this too.
I certainly do find it odd that Nintendo chose Grovyle as a character, because he's a starter evolution, but I think he fills the role perfectly.
I have to say I agree, but have no complaints, as Grovyle is one of my favourite Pokémon anyway ^^
He was a little strange but no where near as much as Dusknoir was
Dusknoir wasn't starnge either, he was just evil.
Seriously though, to all of you who say so-and-so is strange/weird really make me wonder how deeply into the characters you look, because it seems like you really don't look into the characters at all, which is a shame, since MD2 has some really great characters (Celebi and Darkrai are two other notable ones). Dusknoir and Grovyle are very interesting characters.
Erik_Destler, the thread title does say "possible spoilers" (unless you added that). If you were referring to the individual posts in here needing spoilers marked, then I see no point in doing so given the fact that the title should ward off those who don't want spoiling.
edit: I must say though, that i love how that wondeful piece of music which plays only twice in the game (this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP_AUhCJP6I) plays during two EPIC scenes (When Lapras crosses the sea of time and the Hidden Land materialises in front of you, and during Grovyle's goodbye). It really makes those scenes even more epic (and in Grovyle's one sadder ;_
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