Gyarados*

[Dimentio]

So, having it be basic; good or bad? What do you guys think? I disagree completely, but you really can't use a [delta] 'karp with it...

~fuzzy out~

 

[Flame Haze SnS]

What do you think? Remember waaay back to Neo Destiny set, there's shiny Kabutops, shiny Noctowl, shiny Raichu, etc. Also in Neo Revelation, there's Shiny Gyarados, there's aren't any evolution.
So, having stronger pokemon like Shiny Charizard from Neo Destiny have advantage as being basic.
However there's a flaw, having too many energy cards on one card make take a while to use certain attacks.
Having some evolutions such as Shiny Steelix as basic card is pretty good idea, but you can only use one shiny per deck.
Also Mudkip*, Torchic*, and Treecko* can't evolve in any way.

EDIT: On second thought, it's best not to use Gyarados* Delta in the Tournament. It's attack, All-out Blast, can make you discard your deck until you have one card left in your deck.

 

[Dimentio]

All-out-Blast by the way, will be better when DelcattyEX comes out in Miracle Crystal. DelcattyEX basically says take all energy in your discard pile and put them in your deck again.

~fuzzy out~

 

[Flame Haze SnS]

But that'll still leave your deck fewer than your opponent. It's better to use Gyarados* Delta as a last resort...

 

[Cutiebunny]

I wouldn't put too much faith in DelcattyEX...well, unless your faith includes it being banned from most regulation play. So, either the card will be banned or it will be changed into something that offers a fairer playing field.

That's what generally happens when cards become "too good" and almost every deck revolves around the use of those cards. They did it with Neo Sneasel, as well as several or the other Haymaker cards(back in the days...).

As for using the Shinies in a deck, it's something that I personally wouldn't consider. Perhaps it's impressive to use one, but I'm more impressed with a winning deck than one that revolves around the flashiest and most expensive cards around(ie. CharizardEX and LugiaEX).

 

[Captain Brain]

If you play their weaknesses right you can win with the original Kanto series cards. ;025;

 

[dkrolickm]

What you dont understand is you discard unil you have 1 card, do damage, opponents turn, your turn, you draw, run out of cards, and lose.

 

[Flame Haze SnS]

What you dont understand is you discard unil you have 1 card, do damage, opponents turn, your turn, you draw, run out of cards, and lose.

He's right...On your next turn after you draw last card, you lose...

It's true that Gyarados* Delta is the most powerful card, but it's too risky to play that card. Better not use it in the tournament. That card might cost you some prizes.

 

[Cutiebunny]

What you dont understand is you discard unil you have 1 card, do damage, opponents turn, your turn, you draw, run out of cards, and lose.

Like I said, the card will either be banned or the attack will be changed. Ever time one of these ubbers come up, that's what happens.

 

[Dimentio]

well, you actually get one turn. you use all-out-blast, opp. turn, then you draw card, do whatever you wanna do, opp. turn, THEN you lose (unless you use some sort of card to help you again) but I do think by the Miracle Crystal release Delcatty will be changed. Probably to something like put x cards in deck rather than all.

~fuzzy out~

 

[okothnuva]

Playing it with Delcatty ex won't always help. Try it against LBS. Steelix mudslides Delcatty ex. Whoops, you lost to an iron snake.

 

[dkrolickm]

ACTUALY FQ, after you do the atack it makes you discard until you have ONE card, the its your opponents turn, then you draw, but the card you just drew was your last one, and if you draw your last card, you lose,thats it its over, you just plain lose. Any one else know what im talking about?

 

[Dimentio]

As I said before, you draw the last card, then your opp. gets his/her turn, then you have no cards to draw and you lose.

~fuzzy out~

 

[Shiloh Phoenix]

Nintendo doesn't ban cards like wizards did. how many requests do you think nintendo got to ban blaziken/rayquaza ex?

besides, gyarados*d/delcatty ex/mew ex=<3<3<3<3 in next format.

 

[Esperante]

Gyara */Catty Ex/Mew EX is like a dream come true for me. It lik genesis Feraligatr but even more kick-sh*t. 200-300 damage the first turn, then 100-150 the next.

 

[Flame Haze SnS]

Only if I knew what Delcatty Ex attack text are...That way, I could figure out what's the problem between this card and Gyarados* Delta.

 

[Mewbiraxys]

Delcatty ex from cryatal guardians(english name of miracle crystal)

Delcatty ex - Colorless – HP90
Stage 1

Poke-Power: Limitation
You can use this power once during your turn. Each player discards cards from his or her hand
until they only have 6 cards left. (You discard first). You can’t use this power if Delcatty
ex is affected by a Special Condition.

[C] Upstream: Does 10 damage times the number of Energy Cards in your discard pile. Then,
remove all Energy Cards from your discard pile, show them to your opponent, and shuffle them
back into your deck.
[C][C][C] Tail Slap: 60 damage.

Weakness: Fighting
Resistance: none
Retreat: none

 

[Dunsparce]

However there's a flaw, having too many energy cards on one card make take a while to use certain attacks.
Having some evolutions such as Shiny Steelix as basic card is pretty good idea, but you can only use one shiny per deck.

Nuh-Uh. Back in the GSC, you could have as many Shinning Cards in your deck as you want as long as it was only one of each type (EX: BAck in the GSC, I used a Deck with my SHinning Gyarados, Shinning Kabutops and Shinning Magikarp and it was tournement legal )

 

[Flame Haze SnS]

Delcatty ex from cryatal guardians(english name of miracle crystal)

Delcatty ex - Colorless – HP90
Stage 1

Poke-Power: Limitation
You can use this power once during your turn. Each player discards cards from his or her hand
until they only have 6 cards left. (You discard first). You can’t use this power if Delcatty
ex is affected by a Special Condition.

[C] Upstream: Does 10 damage times the number of Energy Cards in your discard pile. Then,
remove all Energy Cards from your discard pile, show them to your opponent, and shuffle them
back into your deck.
[C][C][C] Tail Slap: 60 damage.

Weakness: Fighting
Resistance: none
Retreat: none

Imagine have Gyarados* Delta and Delcatty EX as your active pokemon in double battle. Gyarados* Delta attacks first using All-Out Blast, then you opp. turn, then your turn and use Delcatty EX's Upstream to return all your energy cards from discard pile back to deck.
It's like the endless cycle of disarding deck until one card left by Gyarados* Delta's All-Out Blast, then your next turn to use Delcatty EX's Upstream to bring back all energy cards to your deck. They're probably the best double battle team in the game (I think).

 

[okothnuva]

Well, Steelix ex basically ruins that combo altogether (Polistall too). Steelix ex Mudslides your Delcatty ex down so you can't Upstream, and Poli-stall will have you All-Out Blasting Claw Fossils.