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Gym Leaders and Elite Four Discussion Thread [Read First Post]
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Magnemite can have Thunder Wave/Supersonic/SonicBoom and Thundershock by level 17.
Let's see Whirlipede manage to Rollout five times lol.
It's so bland though. I know he's like the Gym Leader for basic battles and such, but his Pokemon's moves leave a lot to be desired. Oh well, I guess this makes more sense.
Let's see Whirlipede manage to Rollout five times lol.
It's so bland though. I know he's like the Gym Leader for basic battles and such, but his Pokemon's moves leave a lot to be desired. Oh well, I guess this makes more sense.
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Chimchar15
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Decent line up for Cheren and Hokima. The whilipede was expected.
What is most frustrating about Cheren's team is that there is no wild card, no Pokemon that we have yet to see and were not expecting. If we look back to all the other 1st Gym Leaders (Brock, Faulkner, Roxanne, and Roark), they each had a Pokemon that was new and exciting to the player. (Onix, Pidgeotto, Nosepass, and Cranidos respectively). Even Cilan/Chili/Cress had an unforeseen type monkey that made it's first appearance in their hands.
Lillipup is only marginally more difficult to defeat than Patrat, and neither is especially challenging even with Work Up or other TM moves. I think Dunsparce would have been a really interesting addition to the end of the team (now that we know it's available in the first few routes). It's bulky enough to sponge some hits, but it's not overtly powerful enough to give the player too tough of a time.
Meh.
Lillipup is only marginally more difficult to defeat than Patrat, and neither is especially challenging even with Work Up or other TM moves. I think Dunsparce would have been a really interesting addition to the end of the team (now that we know it's available in the first few routes). It's bulky enough to sponge some hits, but it's not overtly powerful enough to give the player too tough of a time.
Meh.
Missingno. Master
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R_N
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In that case, players will find Lillipup exciting and new because it seems we don't head outside Sangi town before turning around and beating up Cheren.
The only things you'll see are Patrat & Purrloin
Those last couple of posts: I agree with wholeheartedly.
Ultimately, it's what makes the Gym Leader battles memorable. The Normal-type hasn't been explored (edit: to clarify, the Unova Normal-type; prior Leaders are better examples), and yet here we are with the sequel to the most recent generation of games (a feat within itself) and the opportunity to give the players to face something unique is squandered. Now we'll have to wait even longer for that one chance to open up again. Worst part is, we don't know if it was an oversight or deliberate on Gamefreak's part to do what's been done.
Ultimately, it's what makes the Gym Leader battles memorable. The Normal-type hasn't been explored (edit: to clarify, the Unova Normal-type; prior Leaders are better examples), and yet here we are with the sequel to the most recent generation of games (a feat within itself) and the opportunity to give the players to face something unique is squandered. Now we'll have to wait even longer for that one chance to open up again. Worst part is, we don't know if it was an oversight or deliberate on Gamefreak's part to do what's been done.
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R_N
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Almost certainly 100% deliberate
The fact his team is a lowered staged version of Lenora was probably intentional
TsukiMirage
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Well Cheren's team is a little disappointing, but Homika having Whilipede was expected.
Ver-mont
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Naturally. We've seen him using a Stoutland in the promo, so I hope he won't be limited to this watered down version of Lenora's team.
Ver-mont
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Yes, it does. Good catch. I can see that happening.
Interesting. I hope it's Hilda or Hilbert....Or a new Character.
I'm dissapointed in Cheren's second pokemon.Herdier would be a lot better
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HyperXhydra95
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Cheren should have Eevee or Herdier.
Lillipup and Patrat? That's not so bad for the 1st Gym.
I don't think we should have expected too much from Cheren.
His ethos and idea is to promote and help younger trainers, his team is supposed to be basic.
With the lack of Fighting Mons, Save Pignite there isn't anything that hits his team for SE damage.
Well we finally know what Homika's signature Poke is..
Whirilipede should be tough if you didn't chose Tepig :]]
We shouldn't jump to conclusions just because Alder is referred to as the BW Champ
Although it does indicate to a strong possibility of there being a new one!
I would never expect them to include his house, we can visit a Champions house? It better be luxurious!
I don't think we should have expected too much from Cheren.
His ethos and idea is to promote and help younger trainers, his team is supposed to be basic.
With the lack of Fighting Mons, Save Pignite there isn't anything that hits his team for SE damage.
Well we finally know what Homika's signature Poke is..
Whirilipede should be tough if you didn't chose Tepig :]]
We shouldn't jump to conclusions just because Alder is referred to as the BW Champ
Although it does indicate to a strong possibility of there being a new one!
I would never expect them to include his house, we can visit a Champions house? It better be luxurious!
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