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Dragonite19
Dragonite Fan
Yay, another Dragonite fan!
I forgot that Tyranitar isn't technically a dragon. I always seem to organize it as one. Speaking of dragons and Dragonite, there is a difference between obsessed with Dragonite and being a Dragonite fan. Lance's first team definitely is on the obsession side, no matter how cool this guy ;149; is.Meganium Ex
Banned
...obviously. It's fun to think of what could've been, though.
ClassicalwaterPokemon
Well-Known Member
higher lvls for all of the Gyms and the Elite Four.
Dragonite19
Dragonite Fan
Your wish has been granted. LOL. No, seriously though they bumped up the levels very well for the rematches. The gym leaders get up to 72 and the Elite Four get up to 75. Now that is a level boost!
R_N
Well-Known Member
And there's been a general level bump overall, especially to Kanto leaders.
DSDark
Breeder
but sadly the johto leaders didn't get enough of a boost. Whitney got lowered, and Pryce is weaker then Jasmine.
Chaos Rush
Well-Known Member
Yeah, Mt. Silver has Pokemon in the low 40's, nice "level bump".
And the Johto Gym Leaders hardly got changed, they were raised ONE level on average. Though I'm glad they actually made an effort to improve the Kanto Gym Leaders.
Dragonite19
Dragonite Fan
Yeah, really. I think they finally realized how low the levels were. They may have not changed much, but Kanto is enough to show that they tried to do better.
Meganium Ex
Banned
More like they raised each leader's Pokemon seven levels and called it a day... I won't complain, though, it's better than nothing.
R_N
Well-Known Member
Because I was totally talking about the wild pokemon levels.
totally.
Dragonite19
Dragonite Fan
Yeah, I wished for more too. I was pretty happy that they tried to do something though. They should have done that with the Johto gym leaders too. They needed a fair bit of level raising they didn't get. I guess they tried to improve there with a bit of strategy (Bugsy), but they could've done better. Rematches make things a bit better though.
Chaos Rush
Well-Known Member
Actually the original problem was that the Kanto Gym Leaders had lower levels than the Elite Four (except Green, and Blaine who's signature was the same level as Lance's), and so GameFreak realized that the Kanto Gym Leaders should be harder than the Elite Four, since it should be the next challenge. Yeah, it's better than nothing, but poor Johto Leaders and their Kanto Pokemon...
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Meganium Ex
Banned
I still don't understand though... why they didn't just give Falkner a damn Hoothoot in the original games ten years ago. Or a Spinarak to Busgy. A Misdreavus to Morty. A Hitmontop or Heracross to Chuck. It's sad that half the leaders don't own any Johto Pokemon whatsoever. :/
Chimchar15
Well-Known Member
I think they should have a HGSS 2.0. It will be mostly the same but improve on all the negative features of HGSS. Yeah I know its not going to happen but let me have the dream.
Meganium Ex
Banned
DSDark
Breeder
truly epic
Chaos Rush
Well-Known Member
lol mindcrystal
But the only difference in the 1.0 and 1.1 versions of FR/LG is that 1.1 fixed a minor glitch in the Pokedex (in 1.0, the species listing would only list 1 word, for instance, it would simply say that Phanpy is a "LONG" species. In 1.1, they fixed it so it would display both words, and so Phanpy would say "LONG NOSE" species).
EDIT: lol, what if the translators notice something about the levels, and so they "edit some stuff" for the international releases of HG/SS. Too bad that hasn't happened before...
Well they did release a Pokemon FireRed/LeafGreen 1.1...
But the only difference in the 1.0 and 1.1 versions of FR/LG is that 1.1 fixed a minor glitch in the Pokedex (in 1.0, the species listing would only list 1 word, for instance, it would simply say that Phanpy is a "LONG" species. In 1.1, they fixed it so it would display both words, and so Phanpy would say "LONG NOSE" species).
EDIT: lol, what if the translators notice something about the levels, and so they "edit some stuff" for the international releases of HG/SS
. Too bad that hasn't happened before...
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Meganium Ex
Banned
EDIT: lol, what if the translators notice something about the levels, and so they "edit some stuff" for the international releases of HG/SS
Under normal circumstances, it'd be pretty annoying if the translators started changing levels and rosters and stuff for no reasons. But it'd be pretty awesome if they raised some levels here and there.
But really, the HGSS 2.0 is not a bad idea at all. I almost wish they didn't add all the Crystal stuff in HGSS so it would've given them an excuse to make a third version other than to increase levels and change Pokemon. I'd even go through the trouble of making a rom hack if I could, if only I knew how to hack a game, much less a DS game.
I agree with you that HGSS could have been better in the levels respect, and that a third version would have been a good idea. For example, what would fans do if GameFreak remade Ruby and Sapphire but not the clearly much more sufficient Emerald, even if they included aspects of the third game? If those hypothetical leader teams were the same as the notably weaker R/S teams, GameFreak would not be able to stand; its legs would be ripped off.
Clearly a shake up in Pokemon and levels should occur in a remake.
However, despite me being upset with the initial teams, I find that the rematch teams are mostly sufficient. Of course, no one should have to go through the breeze of fighting a Level 48 Pelipper (Falkner) after beating a Level 60 Pidgeot (Green), but given that that said Pelipper has Tailwind, a good strategic team move, GameFreak did not completely sit down and do nothing.
In my opinion, GameFreak felt no need to change the initial gym rosters because it is after all trying to capture the classic feel (though Green has never before owned a Machamp, which makes it understandable to be upset that Bugsy did not even teach his cocoons Bug Bite, let alone evolve them). However, they should have at least made the rematch levels on par with at least Blaine's team (level 54-62). Still, I cannot make a clear judgment of the leaders until I actually play the game.
Edit: Would it be worth spending a year on a Crystal remake to correct the levels?
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