Gym Leaders / Elite Four Discussion

[yeminied]

Whitney isn't really that hard. When you develop a strategy that doesn't consist of going in all guns a-blazin' then her strategy falls through the floor.

A Geodude just kills Whitney. She can't do anything to it. After a couple of defence curls she has no chance, minus a critical hit.

You could also try statusing. I know Miltank has a Lum Berry but if you could probably get a second one off. If you have Vulpix you could use confuse ray and then will-o-wisp for the attack drop.

Stat drops are another way to go. If you chose Cyndaquil it will have evolved to Quilava. Then you could fire off a couple of smokescreens and growls and there you go.

It's Clair that's the real mountain to get over. Her Kingdra has only one weakness and that's to a type that is not only scarce but is weak to Kingdra's dragon pulse. Gyarados is a beast to get past unless you have an electric type move. Then you have her two Dragonair's who are by no means easy to get past.

 

[Lorde]

You could also try statusing. I know Miltank has a Lum Berry but if you could probably get a second one off. If you have Vulpix you could use confuse ray and then will-o-wisp for the attack drop.

It seems like status-affecting moves rarely ever hit their mark though. If you're lucky, a move like Hypnosis or Confuse Ray will work, but most of the time, luck isn't in our favor. I can just imagine how hard it would be to hit that Miltank with two status-affecting moves.

It's Clair that's the real mountain to get over. Her Kingdra has only one weakness and that's to a type that is not only scarce but is weak to Kingdra's dragon pulse. Gyarados is a beast to get past unless you have an electric type move. Then you have her two Dragonair's who are by no means easy to get past.

How did I get past Clair that first time? I don't remember, but I just traded for a Pokemon that knew a Dragon-type attack for every challenge after that initial one. I agree that she's a challenge too, but I figure that by that point, you can just trade for something that can defeat her Kingdra. I think Gyarados was a breeze since most people have a Pokemon with an Electric-type move by then. Those do quadruple damage against Gyarados, so they work well. Her Dragonair are probably easy to beat with Ice-type moves, though I don't recall if I used those against them, myself.

 

[AmericanPi]

Wait a second... I thought this thread died... glad to see it back!

Well anyways, I myself managed to beat Whitney with Bayleef's Poison Powder. When Bayleef fainted, I used Pidgeotto's Twister attacks, which actually made Miltank flinch. Thank you, Leafy and Sky!

 

[Geekachu]

I don't remember how I beat Miltank, but I remember that I found it easy. I was really shocked when I defeated it easily...

 

[Larry]

Whitney isn't really that hard. When you develop a strategy that doesn't consist of going in all guns a-blazin' then her strategy falls through the floor.

A Geodude just kills Whitney. She can't do anything to it. After a couple of defence curls she has no chance, minus a critical hit.

You could also try statusing. I know Miltank has a Lum Berry but if you could probably get a second one off. If you have Vulpix you could use confuse ray and then will-o-wisp for the attack drop.

Stat drops are another way to go. If you chose Cyndaquil it will have evolved to Quilava. Then you could fire off a couple of smokescreens and growls and there you go.

I had to teach my Geodude Rock Smash and then just kept using it getting a Defense drop here and there.

 

[Lorde]

Did anyone else have trouble against Clair and Lance during that special double battle in the Dragon's Den? I remember battling them in HeartGold and it was hella hard! I partially blame myself for not training my Pokemon very much after the Elite Four, but Clair and Lance were able to overwhelm my rival - and his Pokemon's levels were chosen with the battle in mind. I think they managed to defeat two of my Pokemon before I was able to really counter their Dragons.

 

[EagleEye]

yea i had a hard time with Claire and Lance also, my rival's pokemon were dead before i could even get two of there's gone. I ended up using my level 70 lugia and taught it blizzard to kill the dragons. I should have trained mine better at the elite four, they were all in 50's and only one had a ice type move.

 

[Lorde]

yea i had a hard time with Claire and Lance also, my rival's pokemon were dead before i could even get two of there's gone. I ended up using my level 70 lugia and taught it blizzard to kill the dragons. I should have trained mine better at the elite four, they were all in 50's and only one had a ice type move.

Geez, that sounds really rough. My Pokemon were a little stronger than yours appeared to have been, yet I still had trouble against those two. Ironically, I didn't have much trouble against Lance when he was by himself at the League. I defeated him the first time and only one of my Pokemon fainted and the second time, even though one of my Pokemon still fainted, I managed to jump in with an Ice-type Pokemon and defeat him. Funny how I beat him that second time without much difficulty, yet I had trouble against him in the double battle, when half of his Pokemon weren't present and I had a helper.

 

[cashuin]

Aloha fellow HG/SS players! I am a lot behind all of you, but I finally got my game *I think it is a fake, but that is something else entirely* and, for the moment, have just been playing. My question is this: I beat Janine in Fuscia City's gym but am now stuck IN THE GYM! The walls keep moving so I can not get out of there! I have tried searching all of the guides I can find for an answer but no one seems to have one. Would any of you be kind enough to assist me?
TIA!

 

[darthnihilus]

Snorlax was a beast! Took me forever to get him down to the red, and then you know what? Full Restore. I wanted to shoot Red in the face.

My Lv.50 Heracross 1 Hit K.O Snorlax with Reversal when its HP is 1

 

[Lance The Champ]

Why does a strong and bulky pokemon like Snorlax give less experience points than some other pokemon? Anyway Red's pokemon have been given very high levels

 

[Dr. Leggs]

I used Jirachi for my SoulSilver playthrough, and I OHKOed Miltank with a +1 Flash Cannon. It can be harder if you're only using in-game Pokemon, though...

Rest of the Gym Leaders were a nice challenge, not too hard nor too easy, though I think Clair could have been more difficult...

 

[Princess Milotic☆]

Ugh, Claire Is The Worst.
Somehow shes harder in Crystal Version Tho... Idk..

I just hate Gym Leaders Who Use Kingdra. Like, Damn The Thing 1 Hit K-Os Me Everytime.

I had to face her like 10 times until i finally beat her with a lucky Critical Hit.


P.S im never picking Cyndaquil for Starter Again X,x

 

[Lorde]

Beating the Johto Gym Leaders is easy if you have a Legendary Pokemon at the start of the games, but most people don't have that luxury unfortunately. I remember transferring Arceus from Platinum version for the Sinjoh Ruins event, but I never used it to battle for some reason (probably because the game would've lost some of the challenge had I used Arceus for all the big battles). I was fully prepared for the Kanto Gym Leaders, however. By the time I battled them, all of my Pokemon had grown so defeating them wasn't that difficult. I think my favorite Kanto Gym Leaders were Misty, Sabrina, and Blaine. I just liked their new outfits for some reason.

 

[lucario beast]

hardest johto gym was whitney stupid milktank using atract on my quilava
and clair since typlosion was the only pokemon i trained i had to use a lot of medicines to defeat kingdra
the elite 4 the 1 time was a joke mt typlosion stormed throught it without using a single healing item then when i got to lance i used a garyrados with ice fang to beat him

 

[Mister_SGG]

4. Morty NEEDS TO LOSE THE GASTLY AND HAUNTER!!!

Granted, there was only 4 Ghost-types at the time of Generation II, but I agree Morty should have a Misdreavus or something.

 

[Miss Alexis]

At first the elite four was hard but since ive leveled up a lot its been a lot easier, sometimes i just run though there for the hell of it or for some extra cash n exp

 

[Lorde]

Granted, there was only 4 Ghost-types at the time of Generation II, but I agree Morty should have a Misdreavus or something.

I'm glad that he didn't have a Misdreavus after all. I really wanted him to have one in his HG/SS roster, but I think things worked out well enough without one. I'm sort of upset about Clair's roster in these games, however. Why did they give her a Gyarados? Yeah, it looks like a Dragon-type, but it isn't and it just required me to train a stronger Electric-type Pokemon. I liked her older roster with the three Dragonair and one Kingdra much more than this newer roster, but that's just me.

 

[master of murkrow]

Withney is a wuss. I killed her whole team with my heracross's brick break

 

[Caseydia]

Everyone's talking about how higher the levels of the leaders should be more than it is now but the fact of the matter is that, there needs to be a way for more trainers to be present to be able to train for all of this. Because to be honest, the gymleaders are more harder now than they were when g/s/c was out.