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I agree, levels can change and minor Pokemon roster changes here and there, but please, don't mess with the classics and put Sinnoh Pokemon pre-National Dex...
Tyranitar trainer
Back for a bit
I they'll keep the old dex but will the ability to rebattle the gym leaders after you've got the national dex
Fawlkner
Hoot-hoot Lvl 12
Pigeotto lvl 16
Spearow lvl 14
Bugsy
Ledian Lvl 20
Aridos Lvl 20
Whitney
Clefairy Lvl 25
Milktank Lvl 26
Tauros Lvl 26
Morty
Haunter Lvl 29
Mistrevieus Lvl 29
Gengar Lvl 30
Chuck
Hitmonlee Lvl 34
Hitmonchan Lvl 34
Primape Lvl 36
Jasmine
Magneton Lvl 38
Scizor Lvl 38
Steelix Lvl 40
Pryce
Sneasel Lvl 42
Dewgong Lvl 43
Piloswine Lvl 44
Claire
Dragonair Lvl 46
Dragonair Lvl 47
Kingdra Lvl 49
Dragonite Lvl 50
Will
Xatu Lvl 51
Hypno Lvl 51
Exegutor Lvl 52
Jynx Lvl 52
Alakazam Lvl 54
Koga
Aradios Lvl 54
Venomoth Lvl 54
Crobat Lvl 55
Weezing Lvl 55
Muk Lvl 56
Bruno
Steelix Lvl 56
Hitmontop Lvl 56
Poliwrath Lvl 57
Golem Lvl 57
Machamp Lvl 58
Karen
Sneasel Lvl 58
Murkrow Lvl 58
Vileplume Lvl 59
Umbreon Lvl 59
Houndoom Lvl 60
Lance
Gyarados Lvl 60
Aerodactayl Lvl 61
Charizard Lvl 61
Dragonite Lvl 62
Kingdra Lvl 63
Dragonite Lvl 64
After National Dex
Fawlkner
Noctowl Lvl 50
Staravia Lvl 50
Pigeot Lvl 51
Swellow Lvl 51
Honchkrow Lvl 52
Gliscor Lvl 54
Bugsy
Ledian Lvl 54
Aridos Lvl 54
Yanmega Lvl 55
Wormadam ( Leaf cloak) Lvl 55
Vespiquen Lvl 55
Flygon Lvl 56
Whitney
Milktank Lvl 56
Tauros Lvl 56
Linoone Lvl 56
Purugly Lvl 57
Togekiss Lvl 57
Blissey Lvl 58
Morty
Gengar Lvl 58
Mismagius Lvl 58
Banette Lvl 59
Rotom Lvl 59
Shedninja Lvl 59
Dusknoir Lvl 60
Chuck
Hitmonlee Lvl 60
Hitmonchan Lvl 60
Hitmontop Lvl 60
Toxicroak Lvl 61
Haryama Lvl 61
Gallade Lvl 62
Jasmine
Bastiodon Lvl 62
Scizor Lvl 62
Agron Lvl 63
Magnezone Lvl 63
Lucario Lvl 63
Steelix Lvl 64
Pryce
Galie Lvl 64
Abomasnow Lvl 64
Glaceon Lvl 64
Weavile Lvl 65
Lapras Lvl 65
Mamoswine Lvl 66
Claire
Dragonite Lvl 66
Dragonite Lvl 66
Salamance Lvl 67
Garchomp Lvl 67
Milotic Lvl 67
Kingdra Lvl 68
Will
Xatu Lvl 68
Bronzong Lvl 68
Espeon Lvl 68
Gardevior Lvl 69
Metagross Lvl 69
Alakazam Lvl 70
Koga
Crobat Lvl 70
Weezing Lvl 70
Muk Lvl 70
Skuntank Lvl 71
Roserade Lvl 71
Drapion Lvl 72
Bruno
Hitmontop Lvl 72
Machamp Lvl 72
Rampardos Lvl 72
Lucario Lvl 73
Slaking Lvl 73
Rhyperhior Lvl 74
Karen
Umbreon Lvl 74
Honchkrow Lvl 74
Weavile Lvl 75
Mighteyna Lvl 75
Houndoom Lvl 75
Absol Lvl 76
Lance
Dragonite Lvl 76
Charizard Lvl 76
Altria Lvl 76
Salamance Lvl 77
Flygon Lvl 77
Garchomp Lvl 78
Red
Espeon Lvl 90
Snorlax Lvl 90
Venusaur Lvl 91
Charizard Lvl 91
Blastoise Lvl 91
Pikachu Lvl 92
Thanks for reading
Fawlkner
Hoot-hoot Lvl 12
Pigeotto lvl 16
Spearow lvl 14
Bugsy
Ledian Lvl 20
Aridos Lvl 20
Whitney
Clefairy Lvl 25
Milktank Lvl 26
Tauros Lvl 26
Morty
Haunter Lvl 29
Mistrevieus Lvl 29
Gengar Lvl 30
Chuck
Hitmonlee Lvl 34
Hitmonchan Lvl 34
Primape Lvl 36
Jasmine
Magneton Lvl 38
Scizor Lvl 38
Steelix Lvl 40
Pryce
Sneasel Lvl 42
Dewgong Lvl 43
Piloswine Lvl 44
Claire
Dragonair Lvl 46
Dragonair Lvl 47
Kingdra Lvl 49
Dragonite Lvl 50
Will
Xatu Lvl 51
Hypno Lvl 51
Exegutor Lvl 52
Jynx Lvl 52
Alakazam Lvl 54
Koga
Aradios Lvl 54
Venomoth Lvl 54
Crobat Lvl 55
Weezing Lvl 55
Muk Lvl 56
Bruno
Steelix Lvl 56
Hitmontop Lvl 56
Poliwrath Lvl 57
Golem Lvl 57
Machamp Lvl 58
Karen
Sneasel Lvl 58
Murkrow Lvl 58
Vileplume Lvl 59
Umbreon Lvl 59
Houndoom Lvl 60
Lance
Gyarados Lvl 60
Aerodactayl Lvl 61
Charizard Lvl 61
Dragonite Lvl 62
Kingdra Lvl 63
Dragonite Lvl 64
After National Dex
Fawlkner
Noctowl Lvl 50
Staravia Lvl 50
Pigeot Lvl 51
Swellow Lvl 51
Honchkrow Lvl 52
Gliscor Lvl 54
Bugsy
Ledian Lvl 54
Aridos Lvl 54
Yanmega Lvl 55
Wormadam ( Leaf cloak) Lvl 55
Vespiquen Lvl 55
Flygon Lvl 56
Whitney
Milktank Lvl 56
Tauros Lvl 56
Linoone Lvl 56
Purugly Lvl 57
Togekiss Lvl 57
Blissey Lvl 58
Morty
Gengar Lvl 58
Mismagius Lvl 58
Banette Lvl 59
Rotom Lvl 59
Shedninja Lvl 59
Dusknoir Lvl 60
Chuck
Hitmonlee Lvl 60
Hitmonchan Lvl 60
Hitmontop Lvl 60
Toxicroak Lvl 61
Haryama Lvl 61
Gallade Lvl 62
Jasmine
Bastiodon Lvl 62
Scizor Lvl 62
Agron Lvl 63
Magnezone Lvl 63
Lucario Lvl 63
Steelix Lvl 64
Pryce
Galie Lvl 64
Abomasnow Lvl 64
Glaceon Lvl 64
Weavile Lvl 65
Lapras Lvl 65
Mamoswine Lvl 66
Claire
Dragonite Lvl 66
Dragonite Lvl 66
Salamance Lvl 67
Garchomp Lvl 67
Milotic Lvl 67
Kingdra Lvl 68
Will
Xatu Lvl 68
Bronzong Lvl 68
Espeon Lvl 68
Gardevior Lvl 69
Metagross Lvl 69
Alakazam Lvl 70
Koga
Crobat Lvl 70
Weezing Lvl 70
Muk Lvl 70
Skuntank Lvl 71
Roserade Lvl 71
Drapion Lvl 72
Bruno
Hitmontop Lvl 72
Machamp Lvl 72
Rampardos Lvl 72
Lucario Lvl 73
Slaking Lvl 73
Rhyperhior Lvl 74
Karen
Umbreon Lvl 74
Honchkrow Lvl 74
Weavile Lvl 75
Mighteyna Lvl 75
Houndoom Lvl 75
Absol Lvl 76
Lance
Dragonite Lvl 76
Charizard Lvl 76
Altria Lvl 76
Salamance Lvl 77
Flygon Lvl 77
Garchomp Lvl 78
Red
Espeon Lvl 90
Snorlax Lvl 90
Venusaur Lvl 91
Charizard Lvl 91
Blastoise Lvl 91
Pikachu Lvl 92
Thanks for reading
SilverMorty
Well-Known Member
assuming you the dex would remain the same, Morty should drop that Gastly for a Misdreavus
Skarmory would be too strong for Flakner imo, although if Jasmine were to have it, your pokemon should be strong enough to deal with it. She should at least get a Magneton.
Falkner should get Hoothoot or Spearow to replace Pidgey. The only other bird that I could see would be Murkrow, but only a slim chance, since its stats would be a bit strong that early in the game and seems like more of a Rocket exclusive pokemon. It'll make it at least challenging. TM wouled either be Roost, Pluck or Aerial Ace- all pretty viable (lol iamgine Sand-attack + Aerial Ace Pidgey/Pidgeotto >.>)
Bugsy should evolve his cocoons- that would be perfect if he were to give away the Silver Wind TM. If he goes with U-turn, that could make for an interesting battle, just when you think Scyther will be dead, say hello again to his earlier pokes lol. Butterfree would at least make the battle more interesting with the Compoundeyes Status effects X_x. He could replace one of them for Ledian and provide screen support lol, but i kind of doubt it at this early in the game.
Pryce should get a Sneasel and drop Seel. Or if Sneasel feels too menacing, maybe Cloyster or Lapras (more likely the latter). Clair would give Dragon Pulse, but if they're staying with the Dex, may not drop any of her Dragonairs. At least make them higher levels. And maybe have one of them Rain Dance to make it interesting with Swift Swim Kingdra.
Chuck would be fine i think but if they had to change something, maybe have a Machamp or Hitmontop (if Intimidate, would make Poliwrath a bit bulkier).TM could be Brick Break or Focus Punch. Maybe even Drain Punch? I'm not sure he'll get Heracross since I think that's more of a Bugsy team type (if rematches are there)
Skarmory would be too strong for Flakner imo, although if Jasmine were to have it, your pokemon should be strong enough to deal with it. She should at least get a Magneton.
Falkner should get Hoothoot or Spearow to replace Pidgey. The only other bird that I could see would be Murkrow, but only a slim chance, since its stats would be a bit strong that early in the game and seems like more of a Rocket exclusive pokemon. It'll make it at least challenging. TM wouled either be Roost, Pluck or Aerial Ace- all pretty viable (lol iamgine Sand-attack + Aerial Ace Pidgey/Pidgeotto >.>)
Bugsy should evolve his cocoons- that would be perfect if he were to give away the Silver Wind TM. If he goes with U-turn, that could make for an interesting battle, just when you think Scyther will be dead, say hello again to his earlier pokes lol. Butterfree would at least make the battle more interesting with the Compoundeyes Status effects X_x. He could replace one of them for Ledian and provide screen support lol, but i kind of doubt it at this early in the game.
Pryce should get a Sneasel and drop Seel. Or if Sneasel feels too menacing, maybe Cloyster or Lapras (more likely the latter). Clair would give Dragon Pulse, but if they're staying with the Dex, may not drop any of her Dragonairs. At least make them higher levels. And maybe have one of them Rain Dance to make it interesting with Swift Swim Kingdra.
Chuck would be fine i think but if they had to change something, maybe have a Machamp or Hitmontop (if Intimidate, would make Poliwrath a bit bulkier).TM could be Brick Break or Focus Punch. Maybe even Drain Punch? I'm not sure he'll get Heracross since I think that's more of a Bugsy team type (if rematches are there)
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I don't think the Gym Leader levels will change too much, maybe 5 levels higher is the maximum.
If Claire's last Pokemon is.. let's say a level 50 Kingdra, then the Kanto Gym Leaders' Pokemon have to go up to 80 or 90..
One cool thing to happen is: After you beat Kanto's last gym you lose your all the Johto Badges and then have to battle all the Gyms once more in super-ultra-very-mega-super-high levels >_>
As for Pokemon changes, I want them, Falkner with Hoothoot, Spearow, Taillow and Pidgey
If Claire's last Pokemon is.. let's say a level 50 Kingdra, then the Kanto Gym Leaders' Pokemon have to go up to 80 or 90..
One cool thing to happen is: After you beat Kanto's last gym you lose your all the Johto Badges and then have to battle all the Gyms once more in super-ultra-very-mega-super-high levels >_>
As for Pokemon changes, I want them, Falkner with Hoothoot, Spearow, Taillow and Pidgey
munchlaxboy
Catching up on XY
I'm just posting what I think the leaders and E4 members should have and the levels. One's of GSC's VERY FEW flaws was it was a bit too easy. Also, they are in order of when the Pokemon will be thrown out.
Falkner: Hoot-Hoot(Level 10), Pidgeotto(Level 14)
Bugsy: Spinarak(Level 13), Metapod(Level 14), Scyther(Level 19)
Whitney: Cleffa(Level 15), Igglybuff(Level 15), Miltank(Level 23)
Morty: Gastly(Level 20), Haunter(Level 22), Misdreavus(Level 23), Gengar(Level 28)
Chuck: Primeape(Level 27), Machoke(Level 30), Poliwrath(Level 34)
Jasmine: Magneton(Level 35), Steelix(Level 40)
Pryce: Seel(Level 33), Swinub(Level 33), Dewgong(Level 38), Piloswine(Level 42)
Clair: Dragonair(Level 42), Kingdra(Level 46), Dragonite(Level 50)
Final Rival Battle: Sneasel(Level 43), Kadabra(Level 40), Haunter(Level 41), Magneton(Level 42), Crobat(Level 45), Meganium/Typholsion/Feraligatr(Level 47)
Will: Xatu(Level 44), Girafarig(Level 44), Jinx(Level 46), Espeon(Level 47), Slowking(Level 48)
Koga: Ariados(Level 46), Forretress(Level 47), Muk(Level 49), Venomoth(Level 46), Crobat(Level 51)
Bruno: Hitmonlee(Level 48), Hitmonchan(Level 48), Hitmontop(Level 48), Onix(Level 51), Machamp(Level 55)
Karen: Pupitar(Level 48), Murkrow(Level 50), Umbreon(Level 52), Vileplume(Level 57), Houndoom(Level 60)
Lance: Arcanine(Level 50), Feraligatr(Level 54), Gyrados(Level 57) Aerodactyl(Level 57), Dragonite(Level 62), Charizard(Level 65)
Woo...That took pretty dang long to write.
Falkner: Hoot-Hoot(Level 10), Pidgeotto(Level 14)
Bugsy: Spinarak(Level 13), Metapod(Level 14), Scyther(Level 19)
Whitney: Cleffa(Level 15), Igglybuff(Level 15), Miltank(Level 23)
Morty: Gastly(Level 20), Haunter(Level 22), Misdreavus(Level 23), Gengar(Level 28)
Chuck: Primeape(Level 27), Machoke(Level 30), Poliwrath(Level 34)
Jasmine: Magneton(Level 35), Steelix(Level 40)
Pryce: Seel(Level 33), Swinub(Level 33), Dewgong(Level 38), Piloswine(Level 42)
Clair: Dragonair(Level 42), Kingdra(Level 46), Dragonite(Level 50)
Final Rival Battle: Sneasel(Level 43), Kadabra(Level 40), Haunter(Level 41), Magneton(Level 42), Crobat(Level 45), Meganium/Typholsion/Feraligatr(Level 47)
Will: Xatu(Level 44), Girafarig(Level 44), Jinx(Level 46), Espeon(Level 47), Slowking(Level 48)
Koga: Ariados(Level 46), Forretress(Level 47), Muk(Level 49), Venomoth(Level 46), Crobat(Level 51)
Bruno: Hitmonlee(Level 48), Hitmonchan(Level 48), Hitmontop(Level 48), Onix(Level 51), Machamp(Level 55)
Karen: Pupitar(Level 48), Murkrow(Level 50), Umbreon(Level 52), Vileplume(Level 57), Houndoom(Level 60)
Lance: Arcanine(Level 50), Feraligatr(Level 54), Gyrados(Level 57) Aerodactyl(Level 57), Dragonite(Level 62), Charizard(Level 65)
Woo...That took pretty dang long to write.
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SilverMorty
Well-Known Member
Actually remember how some trainers had pokemon that you couldn't get in Johto yet and had to wait in Kanto? Maybe they can do that with some Gym Leaders so Falkner would get for example a Doduo, which would separate him from that first trainer's Spearow.
Also on a side note, it will be nice to play a pokemon game again where the first gym isn;t rock type lol
and Bugsy should later get a Pinsir and Heracross. Maybe even Forretres. But if having two 4x weak Pokemon is too much, maybe Forretress can go to Jasmine.
Also on a side note, it will be nice to play a pokemon game again where the first gym isn;t rock type lol
and Bugsy should later get a Pinsir and Heracross. Maybe even Forretres. But if having two 4x weak Pokemon is too much, maybe Forretress can go to Jasmine.
I think its probably gonna stay pretty much the same like in the Red/Green remakes for GBA. Perhaps some minor tweaks.
At least you should be able to rebattle them with highest evolutions somehow with Bruno having Steelix for example. Much like the second round for E4 that you had in FR/LG and in Platinum on the DS. For Gym Leaders they could just do the same Battleground idea used in Platinum.
Something like that is probably going to be possible anyway.
At least you should be able to rebattle them with highest evolutions somehow with Bruno having Steelix for example. Much like the second round for E4 that you had in FR/LG and in Platinum on the DS. For Gym Leaders they could just do the same Battleground idea used in Platinum.
Something like that is probably going to be possible anyway.
Bolt the Cat
Bringing the Thunder
They could do Skarmory if they let you catch Growlithe/Vulpix is available as early as Crystal version (for those of you who don't know, you can get Growlithe on Rt. 36 in a patch of grass accessible without removing Sudowoodo.
Since we don't really know which pokemon will be accessible when, let me try and assemble teams based on the original Johto Dex:
Falkner:
Hoothoot Lv. 10
Pidgeotto Lv. 12
Skarmory Lv. 13
Bugsy:
Kakuna Lv. 15
Spinarak Lv. 16
Scyther Lv. 18 (IMO Scizor would be too strong)
Whitney:
Clefairy Lv. 18
Snubbull Lv. 20
Miltank Lv. 22
Morty:
Gastly Lv. 22
Haunter Lv. 25
Gengar Lv. 27
Misdreavus Lv. 30
Chuck:
Primeape Lv. 30
Poliwrath Lv. 32
Hitmontop Lv. 35 (Chuck needs a Johto main. Only one I could think of)
Jasmine:
Magneton Lv. 32
Scizor Lv. 35
Steelix Lv. 37
Pryce:
Dewgong Lv. 40
Delibird Lv. 41
Sneasel Lv. 42
Piloswine Lv. 45
Clair:
Dragonair Lv. 45
Dragonair Lv. 47
Kingdra Lv. 50
Will:
Hypno Lv. 50
Exeggutor Lv. 51
Slowbro Lv. 51
Jynx Lv. 52
Xatu Lv. 53
Koga:
Ariados Lv. 52
Muk Lv. 53
Venemoth Lv. 53
Weezing Lv. 54
Crobat Lv. 55
Bruno:
Primeape Lv. 55
Hitmonlee Lv. 56
Hitmonchan Lv. 56
Hitmontop Lv. 56
Machamp Lv. 57
Karen:
Gengar Lv. 57
Murkrow Lv. 58
Sneasel Lv. 58
Umbreon Lv. 59
Houndoom Lv. 60
Lance:
Gyarados Lv. 60
Charizard Lv. 62
Aerodactyl Lv. 62
Dragonite Lv. 60
Dragonite Lv. 63
Dragonite Lv. 65
Kanto (levels lowered to make it feel like a new beginning)
Lt. Surge:
Magnemite Lv 23
Voltorb Lv 24
Raichu Lv 25
Electabuzz Lv 27
Sabrina:
Mr. Mime Lv 25
Kadabra Lv 27
Espeon Lv. 30
Misty:
Wooper Lv. 27
Psyduck Lv. 30
Seadra Lv. 32
Starmie Lv. 35
Erika:
Sunflora Lv. 32
Jumpluff Lv. 34
Tangela Lv. 35
Bellosom Lv. 37
Janine:
Crobat Lv. 35
Weezing Lv. 37
Ariados Lv. 37
Venomoth Lv. 30
Nidoqueen Lv. 40
Brock:
Graveler Lv. 41
Kabutops Lv. 42
Omastar Lv. 42
Rhydon Lv. 43
Onix Lv. 44
Blaine:
Ninetales Lv. 43
Maccargo Lv.45
Rapidash Lv. 47
Magmar Lv. 50
Blue:
Pidgeot Lv. 53
Alakazam Lv. 50
Rhydon Lv. 53
Gyarados Lv. 55
Arcanine Lv. 55
Exeggutor Lv. 55
Red:
Espeon Lv. 63
Snorlax Lv. 64
Venusaur Lv. 65
Charizard Lv. 65
Blastoise Lv. 65
Pikachu Lv. 67
Post-National Dex
Falkner:
Noctowl Lv. 50
Pidgeot Lv. 51
Honchkrow Lv. 52
Tropius Lv. 52
Skarmory Lv. 55
Bugsy:
Ariados Lv. 50
Mothim Lv. 52
Armaldo Lv. 51
Scizor Lv. 52
Vespiquen Lv. 55
Whitney:
Clefable Lv.50
Lopunny Lv. 52
Spinda Lv. 51
Miltank Lv. 52
Delcatty Lv. 55
Morty:
Gengar Lv. 50
Sableye Lv. 52
Banette Lv. 51
Mismagius Lv. 52
Dusknoir Lv. 55
Chuck:
Primeape Lv. 50
Poliwrath Lv. 51
Gallade Lv. 52
Hitmontop Lv. 52
Hariyama Lv. 55
Jasmine:
Mawile Lv. 50
Magnezone Lv. 52
Scizor Lv. 52
Aggron Lv. 51
Steelix Lv. 55
Pryce:
Walrein Lv. 50
Weavile Lv. 51
Glalie Lv. 52
Abamosnow Lv. 52
Mamoswine Lv. 55
Clair:
Vibrava Lv. 50
Dragonite Lv. 51
Altaria Lv. 52
Kingdra Lv. 52
Salamence Lv. 55
Will:
Slowking Lv. 55
Claydol Lv. 56
Medicham Lv. 56
Exeggutor Lv. 57
Xatu Lv. 58
Koga:
Ariados Lv. 57
Seviper Lv. 58
Venemoth Lv. 58
Crobat Lv. 59
Drapion Lv. 60
Bruno:
Primeape Lv. 60
Hitmontop Lv. 61
Machamp Lv. 61
Infernape Lv. 61
Lucario Lv. 62
Karen:
Murkrow Lv. 62
Weavile Lv. 63
Umbreon Lv. 64
Absol Lv. 63
Houndoom Lv. 65
Lance:
Altaria Lv. 65
Flygon Lv. 65
Gyarados Lv. 67
Aerodactyl Lv. 67
Salamence Lv. 68
Dragonite Lv. 70
Lt. Surge:
Electrode Lv. 60
Magnezone Lv. 62
Raichu Lv. 62
Manectric Lv. 61
Electivire Lv. 65
Sabrina:
Grumpig Lv. 60
Mr. Mime Lv. 61
Lunatone Lv. 62
Solrock Lv. 62
Alakazam Lv. 65
Misty:
Luvdisc Lv. 60
Lapras Lv. 62
Starmie Lv. 62
Lumineon Lv. 61
Milotic Lv. 65
Erika:
Cherrim Lv. 60
Roserade Lv. 62
Breloom Lv. 61
Bellosom Lv. 62
Tangrowth Lv. 65
Janine:
Weezing Lv. 60
Nidoqueen Lv. 62
Skunktank Lv. 61
Venemoth LV. 62
Toxicroak Lv. 65
Brock:
Golem Lv. 60
Probopass Lv. 61
Kabutops Lv. 62
Omastar Lv. 62
Rhyperior Lv. 65
Blaine:
Torkoal Lv. 60
Camerupt Lv. 62
Magcargo Lv. 61
Rapidash Lv. 62
Magmortar Lv. 65
Blue:
Heracross Lv. 65
Alakazam Lv. 67
Exeggutor Lv. 68
Arcanine Lv. 68
Gyarados Lv. 68
Tyranitar Lv. 70
Red:
Espeon Lv. 73
Snorlax Lv. 75
Venusaur Lv. 77
Charizard Lv. 77
Blastoise Lv. 77
Pikachu Lv. 81
Also, I think they should give Jasmine an actual Gym (as opposed to just a room with nothing in it).
Since we don't really know which pokemon will be accessible when, let me try and assemble teams based on the original Johto Dex:
Falkner:
Hoothoot Lv. 10
Pidgeotto Lv. 12
Skarmory Lv. 13
Bugsy:
Kakuna Lv. 15
Spinarak Lv. 16
Scyther Lv. 18 (IMO Scizor would be too strong)
Whitney:
Clefairy Lv. 18
Snubbull Lv. 20
Miltank Lv. 22
Morty:
Gastly Lv. 22
Haunter Lv. 25
Gengar Lv. 27
Misdreavus Lv. 30
Chuck:
Primeape Lv. 30
Poliwrath Lv. 32
Hitmontop Lv. 35 (Chuck needs a Johto main. Only one I could think of)
Jasmine:
Magneton Lv. 32
Scizor Lv. 35
Steelix Lv. 37
Pryce:
Dewgong Lv. 40
Delibird Lv. 41
Sneasel Lv. 42
Piloswine Lv. 45
Clair:
Dragonair Lv. 45
Dragonair Lv. 47
Kingdra Lv. 50
Will:
Hypno Lv. 50
Exeggutor Lv. 51
Slowbro Lv. 51
Jynx Lv. 52
Xatu Lv. 53
Koga:
Ariados Lv. 52
Muk Lv. 53
Venemoth Lv. 53
Weezing Lv. 54
Crobat Lv. 55
Bruno:
Primeape Lv. 55
Hitmonlee Lv. 56
Hitmonchan Lv. 56
Hitmontop Lv. 56
Machamp Lv. 57
Karen:
Gengar Lv. 57
Murkrow Lv. 58
Sneasel Lv. 58
Umbreon Lv. 59
Houndoom Lv. 60
Lance:
Gyarados Lv. 60
Charizard Lv. 62
Aerodactyl Lv. 62
Dragonite Lv. 60
Dragonite Lv. 63
Dragonite Lv. 65
Kanto (levels lowered to make it feel like a new beginning)
Lt. Surge:
Magnemite Lv 23
Voltorb Lv 24
Raichu Lv 25
Electabuzz Lv 27
Sabrina:
Mr. Mime Lv 25
Kadabra Lv 27
Espeon Lv. 30
Misty:
Wooper Lv. 27
Psyduck Lv. 30
Seadra Lv. 32
Starmie Lv. 35
Erika:
Sunflora Lv. 32
Jumpluff Lv. 34
Tangela Lv. 35
Bellosom Lv. 37
Janine:
Crobat Lv. 35
Weezing Lv. 37
Ariados Lv. 37
Venomoth Lv. 30
Nidoqueen Lv. 40
Brock:
Graveler Lv. 41
Kabutops Lv. 42
Omastar Lv. 42
Rhydon Lv. 43
Onix Lv. 44
Blaine:
Ninetales Lv. 43
Maccargo Lv.45
Rapidash Lv. 47
Magmar Lv. 50
Blue:
Pidgeot Lv. 53
Alakazam Lv. 50
Rhydon Lv. 53
Gyarados Lv. 55
Arcanine Lv. 55
Exeggutor Lv. 55
Red:
Espeon Lv. 63
Snorlax Lv. 64
Venusaur Lv. 65
Charizard Lv. 65
Blastoise Lv. 65
Pikachu Lv. 67
Post-National Dex
Falkner:
Noctowl Lv. 50
Pidgeot Lv. 51
Honchkrow Lv. 52
Tropius Lv. 52
Skarmory Lv. 55
Bugsy:
Ariados Lv. 50
Mothim Lv. 52
Armaldo Lv. 51
Scizor Lv. 52
Vespiquen Lv. 55
Whitney:
Clefable Lv.50
Lopunny Lv. 52
Spinda Lv. 51
Miltank Lv. 52
Delcatty Lv. 55
Morty:
Gengar Lv. 50
Sableye Lv. 52
Banette Lv. 51
Mismagius Lv. 52
Dusknoir Lv. 55
Chuck:
Primeape Lv. 50
Poliwrath Lv. 51
Gallade Lv. 52
Hitmontop Lv. 52
Hariyama Lv. 55
Jasmine:
Mawile Lv. 50
Magnezone Lv. 52
Scizor Lv. 52
Aggron Lv. 51
Steelix Lv. 55
Pryce:
Walrein Lv. 50
Weavile Lv. 51
Glalie Lv. 52
Abamosnow Lv. 52
Mamoswine Lv. 55
Clair:
Vibrava Lv. 50
Dragonite Lv. 51
Altaria Lv. 52
Kingdra Lv. 52
Salamence Lv. 55
Will:
Slowking Lv. 55
Claydol Lv. 56
Medicham Lv. 56
Exeggutor Lv. 57
Xatu Lv. 58
Koga:
Ariados Lv. 57
Seviper Lv. 58
Venemoth Lv. 58
Crobat Lv. 59
Drapion Lv. 60
Bruno:
Primeape Lv. 60
Hitmontop Lv. 61
Machamp Lv. 61
Infernape Lv. 61
Lucario Lv. 62
Karen:
Murkrow Lv. 62
Weavile Lv. 63
Umbreon Lv. 64
Absol Lv. 63
Houndoom Lv. 65
Lance:
Altaria Lv. 65
Flygon Lv. 65
Gyarados Lv. 67
Aerodactyl Lv. 67
Salamence Lv. 68
Dragonite Lv. 70
Lt. Surge:
Electrode Lv. 60
Magnezone Lv. 62
Raichu Lv. 62
Manectric Lv. 61
Electivire Lv. 65
Sabrina:
Grumpig Lv. 60
Mr. Mime Lv. 61
Lunatone Lv. 62
Solrock Lv. 62
Alakazam Lv. 65
Misty:
Luvdisc Lv. 60
Lapras Lv. 62
Starmie Lv. 62
Lumineon Lv. 61
Milotic Lv. 65
Erika:
Cherrim Lv. 60
Roserade Lv. 62
Breloom Lv. 61
Bellosom Lv. 62
Tangrowth Lv. 65
Janine:
Weezing Lv. 60
Nidoqueen Lv. 62
Skunktank Lv. 61
Venemoth LV. 62
Toxicroak Lv. 65
Brock:
Golem Lv. 60
Probopass Lv. 61
Kabutops Lv. 62
Omastar Lv. 62
Rhyperior Lv. 65
Blaine:
Torkoal Lv. 60
Camerupt Lv. 62
Magcargo Lv. 61
Rapidash Lv. 62
Magmortar Lv. 65
Blue:
Heracross Lv. 65
Alakazam Lv. 67
Exeggutor Lv. 68
Arcanine Lv. 68
Gyarados Lv. 68
Tyranitar Lv. 70
Red:
Espeon Lv. 73
Snorlax Lv. 75
Venusaur Lv. 77
Charizard Lv. 77
Blastoise Lv. 77
Pikachu Lv. 81
Also, I think they should give Jasmine an actual Gym (as opposed to just a room with nothing in it).
Zazie
So 1991
I would like for the to keep the johto gym leaders levels the way they are. Lower levels doesn't mean easier if your playing through the game with a team of 5-6 pokemon.
As for changes to their pokemon I would like for them to make minor changes at the most. I would not like to see their entire roster changed though.
Increasing the levels of the kanto leaders could be nice but I doubt that would happen. In order to level up the gym leaders they would hae to level up the surrounding trainers as well which would involve a lot of work.
As for changes to their pokemon I would like for them to make minor changes at the most. I would not like to see their entire roster changed though.
Increasing the levels of the kanto leaders could be nice but I doubt that would happen. In order to level up the gym leaders they would hae to level up the surrounding trainers as well which would involve a lot of work.
rematches would be nice- hopefully they broaden the range of trainers found in the trainer house in viridian city. Add gym leader rematches...along with eusine and maybe professor oak with his never used team in RBY.
I'm not looking for the Johto teams to be too different, but Kanto could do with changing. I hated Blaine's team, total waste of time training for that battle every time.
Falkner: Pidgey, Hoot-hoot, maybe a Pidgeotto (but at the correct level).
Bugsy: Butterfree, Ledian, Scyther.
Whitney: Clefairy, Raticate, Miltank.
Morty: Haunter, Misdreavus, Gengar.
Chuck: Primeape, Machoke, Poliwrath.
Jasmine: Magneton, Steelix, Skarmory.
Pryce: Piloswine, Dewgong, Jynx.
Clair: Dragonair x2, Kingdra, Dragonite(?).
Falkner: Pidgey, Hoot-hoot, maybe a Pidgeotto (but at the correct level).
Bugsy: Butterfree, Ledian, Scyther.
Whitney: Clefairy, Raticate, Miltank.
Morty: Haunter, Misdreavus, Gengar.
Chuck: Primeape, Machoke, Poliwrath.
Jasmine: Magneton, Steelix, Skarmory.
Pryce: Piloswine, Dewgong, Jynx.
Clair: Dragonair x2, Kingdra, Dragonite(?).
If I Can Remember, The Jhoto Gym Leaders Were EXTREMELY Low(From All The The Other Regions) If It Were Me To Decide, It Will Most Likely Be Like This.
Falkner
Lv8 Pidgey
Lv8 HootHoot
Lv10 Pigeotto
Bugsy
Lv 14 Butterfree
Lv14 Beedrill
Lv 13 Ladyba(Forgot How To Spell It)
Lv 17 Scyther
Whitney
Lv 18 Meowth
Lv 18 Clefairy
Lv 20 Furret
Lv21 Milktank
Morty
Lv 24 Haunter
Lv 22 Gastly
Lv 25 Misdreavus
Lv 26 Gengar
Chuck
Lv 26 Machoke
Lv 28 Poliwrath
Lv 26 Primape
Lv 30 Machamp
Jasmine
Lv 30 Magnemite
Lv 32 Skarmory
Lv 32 Magneton
Lv 35 Steelix
Pryce
Lv31 Deliberd
Lv32 Dewgong
Lv31 Jynx
Lv33 Paloswine
(reason why the levels are lower than Jasmine was because this happened in the original)
Clair
Lv35 Seadra
Lv37 Dragonair
Lv37 Dragonair
Lv37 Dragonair
Lv40 Kingdra
My View I Believe That They Should Basically Keep Their Original Pokemon. The Only Difference Is Their Levels And The Pokemon They Have. They Should Have Their Jhoto Pokemon. If They Do Include Gym Leader Rematches, They Can Have New Additions To Thier Team, Like Jasmine Having Mawhile(Metagross Would Be Awsome, Pryce Having Manoswine, Or Clair Having Dragonite, Salamence Or Garchomp.
Falkner
Lv8 Pidgey
Lv8 HootHoot
Lv10 Pigeotto
Bugsy
Lv 14 Butterfree
Lv14 Beedrill
Lv 13 Ladyba(Forgot How To Spell It)
Lv 17 Scyther
Whitney
Lv 18 Meowth
Lv 18 Clefairy
Lv 20 Furret
Lv21 Milktank
Morty
Lv 24 Haunter
Lv 22 Gastly
Lv 25 Misdreavus
Lv 26 Gengar
Chuck
Lv 26 Machoke
Lv 28 Poliwrath
Lv 26 Primape
Lv 30 Machamp
Jasmine
Lv 30 Magnemite
Lv 32 Skarmory
Lv 32 Magneton
Lv 35 Steelix
Pryce
Lv31 Deliberd
Lv32 Dewgong
Lv31 Jynx
Lv33 Paloswine
(reason why the levels are lower than Jasmine was because this happened in the original)
Clair
Lv35 Seadra
Lv37 Dragonair
Lv37 Dragonair
Lv37 Dragonair
Lv40 Kingdra
My View I Believe That They Should Basically Keep Their Original Pokemon. The Only Difference Is Their Levels And The Pokemon They Have. They Should Have Their Jhoto Pokemon. If They Do Include Gym Leader Rematches, They Can Have New Additions To Thier Team, Like Jasmine Having Mawhile(Metagross Would Be Awsome, Pryce Having Manoswine, Or Clair Having Dragonite, Salamence Or Garchomp.
foxyman1167
From Zero To Hero
Heres what I wanna see:
Falkner, TM Pluck/Roost
-lvl 10 Spearow
-lvl 11 Hoothoot
-lvl 14 Pidgeotto
Bugsy, TM Silver Wind/U-Turn
-Lvl 16 Butterfree
-lvl 16 Beedrill
-lvl 16 Ledian
-Lvl 19 Scyther
Whitney, TM Captivate/Attract
-lvl 20 Igglybuff
-lvl 20 Cleffa
-lvl 22 Clefairy
-lvl 25 Miltank
Morty, TM Shadow Ball
-lvl 26 Misdreavus
-lvl 28 Haunter
-lvl 28 Mismagius
-lvl 31 Gengar
Chuck, TM Bulk Up/Drain Punch/Brick Break
-lvl 32 Hitmontop
-lvl 32 Heracross
-lvl 34 Primeape
-lvl 36 Poliwrath
Jasmine, TM Iron Tail
-lvl 34 Magnemite/Magneton
-lvl 36 Skarmory
-lvl 37 Scizor
-lvl 39 Magneton/Magnezone
-lvl 42 Steelix
Pryce, TM Ice Beam/Blizzard/Avalanche
-lvl 40 Seel
-lvl 42 Piloswine
-lvl 43 Weavile
-lvl 45 Mamoswine
-lvl 46 Dewgong
Clair, TM Dragon Pulse
-lvl 46 Seadra
-lvl 47 Dragonair
-lvl 47 Dragonair
-lvl 50 Dragonite
-lvl 50 Kingdra
I'll edit later with E4 and Kanto leaders.
I'd rather have Gym leaders stick to only Kanto/Johto, as if it is a remake, we gotta keep something intact, right?
Falkner, TM Pluck/Roost
-lvl 10 Spearow
-lvl 11 Hoothoot
-lvl 14 Pidgeotto
Bugsy, TM Silver Wind/U-Turn
-Lvl 16 Butterfree
-lvl 16 Beedrill
-lvl 16 Ledian
-Lvl 19 Scyther
Whitney, TM Captivate/Attract
-lvl 20 Igglybuff
-lvl 20 Cleffa
-lvl 22 Clefairy
-lvl 25 Miltank
Morty, TM Shadow Ball
-lvl 26 Misdreavus
-lvl 28 Haunter
-lvl 28 Mismagius
-lvl 31 Gengar
Chuck, TM Bulk Up/Drain Punch/Brick Break
-lvl 32 Hitmontop
-lvl 32 Heracross
-lvl 34 Primeape
-lvl 36 Poliwrath
Jasmine, TM Iron Tail
-lvl 34 Magnemite/Magneton
-lvl 36 Skarmory
-lvl 37 Scizor
-lvl 39 Magneton/Magnezone
-lvl 42 Steelix
Pryce, TM Ice Beam/Blizzard/Avalanche
-lvl 40 Seel
-lvl 42 Piloswine
-lvl 43 Weavile
-lvl 45 Mamoswine
-lvl 46 Dewgong
Clair, TM Dragon Pulse
-lvl 46 Seadra
-lvl 47 Dragonair
-lvl 47 Dragonair
-lvl 50 Dragonite
-lvl 50 Kingdra
I'll edit later with E4 and Kanto leaders.
I'd rather have Gym leaders stick to only Kanto/Johto, as if it is a remake, we gotta keep something intact, right?
Bolt the Cat
Bringing the Thunder
Here's something else to discuss: Should they improve Jasmine's gym? I mean, it's just a fancy looking room with nothing in it. They should make it into an actual gym with actual trainers and an actual puzzle. Although technically you could argue the Lighthouse could take the place of it, it still seems like the Olivine gym should be more like a normal gym.
Aurora Valor
Well-Known Member
I'm hoping for increased levels, Pokemon actually challenging to beat. I'm misting the old rosters and the ones that I would give them.
Falkner:
Lv. 7 Pidgey --> Lv. 12 Hoothoot
Lv. 9 Pidgeotto --> 14. Spearow
Maybe even throw a Murkrow in there for the heck of it. And no freaking Mud Slap TM. Gimme da Roost/Aerial Ace TM instead.
Bugsy:
Lv. 14 Metapod --> Lv. 18 Butterfree, maybe even a Ledian.
Lv. 14 Kakuna --> Lv. 18 Beedrill, or maybe an Ariados.
Lv. 16 Scyther --> Lv. 22 Scyther. Scyther rocks, keep it, but increase it's level.
NO Fury Cutter TM! Give us U-Turn or X-Scissor or something like that.
Whitney:
Lv. 18 Clefairy --> Lv. 24 Raticate, give us a challenge.
Lv. 20 Miltank --> Lv. 26 Miltank, just increase it's level and get rid of Milk Drink
And more Pokermon for her, Furret would fit her nicely. Replace Attract TM by something good, like erm... I don't care, Hyper Beam or something.
Morty:
Lv. 21 Gastly --> Lv. 28 Haunter, Gastly sucks.
Lv. 21 Haunter --> Lv. 28 Misdreavus, there's more than the Haunter line.
Lv. 23 Haunter --> Lv. 27 Duskull, or Sableye.
Lv. 25 Gengar --> Lv. 31 Spiritomb/Gengar/whatever cool Ghost type.
Shadow Ball TM is a keeper.
Chuck:
Lv. 27 Primeape --> Lv. 34 Machoke, this Leader is pathetic already.
LV. 30 Poliwrath --> Lv. 37 Poliwrath, it rocks, but needs more skill.
Add a Medicham or something for a nice extra. Dynamicpunch is a crap move that never hits, so give us Brick Break instead.
Jasmine:
Lv. 30 Magnemite --> Lv. 36 Magneton, EVOLVE it!
Lv. 30 Magnemite --> Lv. 37 Skarmory.
Lv. 35 Steelix --> lv. 41 Steelix, have fun training.
And why not throw stuff like Bronzong, Scizor, maybe even that Ampharos of hers in there? Oh, and Iron Tail is a badass move
Pryce:
Lv. 27 Seel --> Lv. 41 Glalie.
Lv. 29 Dewgong --> Lv. 42 Dewgong.
Lv. 31 Piloswine --> Lv. 45 Mamoswine, because they can.
Also, I'd like to see Jynx, Lapras, Glaceon, maybe even Cloyster or Delibird in there. And Ice Beam instead of Icy Wind TM.
Clair:
Lv. 37 Dragonair --> Lv. 48 Shelgon, more variation please.
Lv. 37 Dragonair --> Lv. 49 Flygon pl0x.
Lv. 37 Dragonair --> Lv. 51 Dragonite, I like Dragonite
Lv. 40 Kingdra --> Lv. 54 Kingdra, so that this thing is actually a challenge.
No Dragonbreath TM, Give us Dragon Claw. And no Garchomp because... it's ugly.
Falkner:
Lv. 7 Pidgey --> Lv. 12 Hoothoot
Lv. 9 Pidgeotto --> 14. Spearow
Maybe even throw a Murkrow in there for the heck of it. And no freaking Mud Slap TM. Gimme da Roost/Aerial Ace TM instead.
Bugsy:
Lv. 14 Metapod --> Lv. 18 Butterfree, maybe even a Ledian.
Lv. 14 Kakuna --> Lv. 18 Beedrill, or maybe an Ariados.
Lv. 16 Scyther --> Lv. 22 Scyther. Scyther rocks, keep it, but increase it's level.
NO Fury Cutter TM! Give us U-Turn or X-Scissor or something like that.
Whitney:
Lv. 18 Clefairy --> Lv. 24 Raticate, give us a challenge.
Lv. 20 Miltank --> Lv. 26 Miltank, just increase it's level and get rid of Milk Drink
And more Pokermon for her, Furret would fit her nicely. Replace Attract TM by something good, like erm... I don't care, Hyper Beam or something.
Morty:
Lv. 21 Gastly --> Lv. 28 Haunter, Gastly sucks.
Lv. 21 Haunter --> Lv. 28 Misdreavus, there's more than the Haunter line.
Lv. 23 Haunter --> Lv. 27 Duskull, or Sableye.
Lv. 25 Gengar --> Lv. 31 Spiritomb/Gengar/whatever cool Ghost type.
Shadow Ball TM is a keeper.
Chuck:
Lv. 27 Primeape --> Lv. 34 Machoke, this Leader is pathetic already.
LV. 30 Poliwrath --> Lv. 37 Poliwrath, it rocks, but needs more skill.
Add a Medicham or something for a nice extra. Dynamicpunch is a crap move that never hits, so give us Brick Break instead.
Jasmine:
Lv. 30 Magnemite --> Lv. 36 Magneton, EVOLVE it!
Lv. 30 Magnemite --> Lv. 37 Skarmory.
Lv. 35 Steelix --> lv. 41 Steelix, have fun training.
And why not throw stuff like Bronzong, Scizor, maybe even that Ampharos of hers in there? Oh, and Iron Tail is a badass move
Pryce:
Lv. 27 Seel --> Lv. 41 Glalie.
Lv. 29 Dewgong --> Lv. 42 Dewgong.
Lv. 31 Piloswine --> Lv. 45 Mamoswine, because they can.
Also, I'd like to see Jynx, Lapras, Glaceon, maybe even Cloyster or Delibird in there. And Ice Beam instead of Icy Wind TM.
Clair:
Lv. 37 Dragonair --> Lv. 48 Shelgon, more variation please.
Lv. 37 Dragonair --> Lv. 49 Flygon pl0x.
Lv. 37 Dragonair --> Lv. 51 Dragonite, I like Dragonite
Lv. 40 Kingdra --> Lv. 54 Kingdra, so that this thing is actually a challenge.
No Dragonbreath TM, Give us Dragon Claw. And no Garchomp because... it's ugly.
Why are we all assuming that there'll be any 3rd and/or 4th gen pokes before-national?
here's what I think
Falkner - Pidgey lv10, Pidgeotto lv12, Hoothoot lv14
Bugsy - Metapod lv16, Kakuna lv16, Scizor lv17
Whitney - Clefable lv20, Miltank lv22, Wigglytuff lv20
Morty - Haunter lv24, Gengar lv25, Misdreavus lv27
Chuck - Primeape lv31, Poliwrath lv31, Hitmontop lv33
Jasmine - Magneton lv34, Steelix lv35, Ampharos lv37
Pryce - Dewgong lv40, Piloswine lv40, Sneasel lv41, Cloyster lv44
Clair - Dragonair lv48, Kingdra lv50, Dragonair lv48, Dragonite lv55
Elite 4
Will - Xatu lv57, Slowking lv57, Slowbro lv58, Exeguttor lv57, Xatu lv58
Koga - Ariados lv57, Venomoth lv59, Weezing lv57, Muk lv59, Crobat lv60
Bruno - Machamp lv58, Hitmonlee lv59, Hitmonchan, lv59, Hitmontop lv58, Steelix lv61
Karen - Pupitar lv59, Murkrow lv59, Houndoom lv62, Umbreon lv60, Tyranitar lv62
Lance - Dragonite lv63, Gyarados lv64, Dragonite lv66, Aerodactyl lv62, Charizard lv64, Dragonair lv64
Ok now here's post-national
Falkner - Noctowl lv49, Pidgeot lv49, Swellow lv50, Pidgeot lv52
Bugsy - Scizor lv49, Ledian lv50, Dustox lv54, Ariados lv49, Beedrill lv55
Whitney - Clefable lv50, Miltank lv54, Wigglytuff lv50, Stantler lv55, Spinda lv56
Morty - Gengar lv53, Misdreavus lv55, Gengar lv53, Sabeleye lv55,
Chuck - Poliwrath lv51, Primeape lv51, machamp lv53, Hariyama lv53, Medicham lv55
Jasmine - Steelix lv50, Magneton lv49, Ampharos lv54, Skarmory lv50, Scizor lv57
Pryce - Dewgong lv52, Sneasel lv53, Jynx lv50, Lapras lv52, Piloswine lv56
Clair - Kingdra lv55, Dragonite lv59, Shelgon lv55, Salamence lv58, Dragonite lv60
E4n post national
Will - Slowking lv63, Xatu lv65, Slowbro lv64, Lunatone lv66, Xatu lv67
Koga - Ariados lv64, Crobat lv66, Muk lv65, Venomoth lv66, Swalot lv67
Bruno - Steelix lv65, Hitmontop lv66, Hitmonlee lv65, Hitmonchan lv66, Machamp lv68
Karen - Umbreon lv66, Shiftry lv68, Absol lv66, Houndoom lv69, Mightyena lv70
Lance - Dragonite lv70, Kingdra lv69, Salamence lv70, Gyarados lv69, Aerodactyl lv73, Charizard lv77
My ideas ^_^
Red won't change XD;492-s;
here's what I think
Falkner - Pidgey lv10, Pidgeotto lv12, Hoothoot lv14
Bugsy - Metapod lv16, Kakuna lv16, Scizor lv17
Whitney - Clefable lv20, Miltank lv22, Wigglytuff lv20
Morty - Haunter lv24, Gengar lv25, Misdreavus lv27
Chuck - Primeape lv31, Poliwrath lv31, Hitmontop lv33
Jasmine - Magneton lv34, Steelix lv35, Ampharos lv37
Pryce - Dewgong lv40, Piloswine lv40, Sneasel lv41, Cloyster lv44
Clair - Dragonair lv48, Kingdra lv50, Dragonair lv48, Dragonite lv55
Elite 4
Will - Xatu lv57, Slowking lv57, Slowbro lv58, Exeguttor lv57, Xatu lv58
Koga - Ariados lv57, Venomoth lv59, Weezing lv57, Muk lv59, Crobat lv60
Bruno - Machamp lv58, Hitmonlee lv59, Hitmonchan, lv59, Hitmontop lv58, Steelix lv61
Karen - Pupitar lv59, Murkrow lv59, Houndoom lv62, Umbreon lv60, Tyranitar lv62
Lance - Dragonite lv63, Gyarados lv64, Dragonite lv66, Aerodactyl lv62, Charizard lv64, Dragonair lv64
Ok now here's post-national
Falkner - Noctowl lv49, Pidgeot lv49, Swellow lv50, Pidgeot lv52
Bugsy - Scizor lv49, Ledian lv50, Dustox lv54, Ariados lv49, Beedrill lv55
Whitney - Clefable lv50, Miltank lv54, Wigglytuff lv50, Stantler lv55, Spinda lv56
Morty - Gengar lv53, Misdreavus lv55, Gengar lv53, Sabeleye lv55,
Chuck - Poliwrath lv51, Primeape lv51, machamp lv53, Hariyama lv53, Medicham lv55
Jasmine - Steelix lv50, Magneton lv49, Ampharos lv54, Skarmory lv50, Scizor lv57
Pryce - Dewgong lv52, Sneasel lv53, Jynx lv50, Lapras lv52, Piloswine lv56
Clair - Kingdra lv55, Dragonite lv59, Shelgon lv55, Salamence lv58, Dragonite lv60
E4n post national
Will - Slowking lv63, Xatu lv65, Slowbro lv64, Lunatone lv66, Xatu lv67
Koga - Ariados lv64, Crobat lv66, Muk lv65, Venomoth lv66, Swalot lv67
Bruno - Steelix lv65, Hitmontop lv66, Hitmonlee lv65, Hitmonchan lv66, Machamp lv68
Karen - Umbreon lv66, Shiftry lv68, Absol lv66, Houndoom lv69, Mightyena lv70
Lance - Dragonite lv70, Kingdra lv69, Salamence lv70, Gyarados lv69, Aerodactyl lv73, Charizard lv77
My ideas ^_^
Red won't change XD;492-s;
Changes at bottom.
Original Falkner: Pidgey L7/ Pidgeotto L9
Original Bugsy: Metapod L14/ Kakuna L14/ Scyther L16
Original Whitney: Clefairy L18/ Miltank L20
Original Morty: Gastly L21/ Haunter L21/ Gengar L25/ Haunter L23
Original Chuck: Primeape L27/ Poliwrath L30
Original Jasmine: Magnemite L30/ Magnemite L30/ Steelix L35
Original Pryce: Seel L27/ Dewgong L29/ Piloswine L31
Original Claire: Dragonair L37/ Dragonair L37/ Dragonair L37/ Kingdra L 40
Original Will: Xatu L40/ Jinx L41/ Exxegutor L41/ Slowbro L41/ Xatu L42
Original Koga: Ariados L40/ Venomoth L41/ Forrtress L43/ Muk L42/ Crobat L44
Original Bruno: Hitmontop L42/ Onix L43/ Hitmonchan L42/ Hitmonlee L42/ Machamp L46
Original Karen: Umbreon L42/ Vileplume L42/ Murkrow L44/ Gengar L45/ Houndoom L47
Original Lance: Gyarados L44/ Dragonite L47/ Dragonite L47/ Aerodactyl L46/ Charizard L46/ Dragonite L50
Original Lt. Surge: Raichu L44/ Electrode L40/ Magneton L40/ Electrode L40/ Electabuzz L46
Original Sabrina: Espeon L46/ Mr. Mime L46/ Alakazam L48
Original Misty: Golduck L42/ Quagsire L42/ Lapras L44/ Starmie L47
Original Erika: Tangela L42/ Jumpluff L41/ Victreebell L46/ Bellossom L46
Original Janine: Crobat L36/ Weezing L36/ Weezing L36/ Ariados L33/ Venomoth L39
Original Brock: Graveler L41/ Rhyhorn L41/ Omastar L42/ Onix L44/ Kabutops L42
Original Blaine: Magcargo L45/ Magmar L45/ Rapidash L50
Original Blue: Pidgeot L56/ Alakazam L54/ Rhydon L56/ Gyarados L58/ Exeggutor L58/ Arcanine L58
Original Red: Pikachu L81/ Espeon L73/ Snorlax L75/ Venusaur L77/ Charizard L77/ Blastoise L77
New Falkner: Pidgey L8/ Pidgeotto L10/ Delibird L9 (Johto-unique pokemon, Hustle + Aerial Ace)
New Bugsy: Butterfree L15/ Beedrill L15/ Scyther L17
New Whitney: Clefairy L19/ Miltank L22/ Clefable L21?
New Morty: Haunter L23/ Haunter L24/ Gengar L25/ Misdreavus L25
New Chuck: Primeape L29/ Machoke L30/ Poliwrath L32
New Jasmine: Magneton L34/ Magneton L34/ Steelix L38/ Skarmory L37
New Pryce: Dewgong L40/ Dewgong L40/ Mamoswine L43/ Glaceon L42
New Claire: Dragonair L45/ Dragonair L45/ Dragonair L47/ Kingdra L48
New Will: Xatu L54/ Jinx L55/ Exeggutor L55/ Slowbro L56/ Xatu L56
New Koga: Ariados L55/ Venomoth L57/ Forretress L57/ Muk L57/ Crobat L58
New Bruno: Hitmontop L56/ Steelix L58/ Hitmonchan L56/ Hitmonlee L56/ Machamp L60
New Karen: Umbreon L57/ Vileplume L57/ Honchkrow L59/ Gengar L59/ Houndoom L62
New Lance: Gyarados L61/ Dragonite L64/ Aerodactyl L63/ Charizard L63/ Tyranitar L64/ Dragonite L67
Differences in Johto and Elite 4 start from ~1 and end around ~17.
New Lt. Surge: Raichu L56/ Electrode L54/ Magnezone L54/ Jolteon L54/ Electivire L59
New Sabrina: Espeon L59/ Mr. Mime L59/ Alakazam L62/ Slowbro L60
New Misty: Golduck L56/ Quagsire L56/ Lapras L58/ Starmie L60
New Erika: Tangrowth L57/ Jumpluff L56/ Victreebell L61/ Bellossom L61
New Janine: Crobat L56/ Weezing L55/ Weezing L55/ Ariados L52/ Venomoth L58
New Brock: Golem L56/ Rhyperior L56/ Omastar L58/ Kabutops L58/ Probopass L60
New Blaine: Magcarco L59/ Magmortar L63/ Rapidash L65/ Infernape L63
New Blue: Pidgeot L70/ Alakazam L68/ Rhyperior L70/ Gyarados L73/ Exeggutor L73/ Arcanine L73
New Red: Pikachu L100/ Espeon L90/ Snorlax L94/ Venusaur L97/ Charizard L97/ Blastoise L97
Falkner should not get a Hoot-hoot: you'd probably have seen a million by then. Bugsy should just get the pod evos and Scyther slightly upped. Whitney gains a Clefable. Morty's Gastly should become a Misdreavus. Chuck gains a Machoke. Jasmine gets one Magnemite evo, the other becomes Skarmory. Pryce gets two Dewgong, a Mamoswine, and a Glaceon. Claire just gets upped.
The Elite 4 just mainly gets upped, though Lance gains a Ttar, Karen a Honchkrow, and Bruno a Steelix. Surge loses an Electrode for a Jolteon and gains an Electivire. Sabrina gains a Slowbro. Misty, Erika, and Janine are upped, though Erika gets Tangrowth. Brock gets a Nosepass to replace the Onix, though he could get a Bastiodon or Sudowoodo-or maybe he could get fossil pokemon from the 3rd gen. Blaine gets an Infernape. Blue gets a up. Red becomes close to mastered.
Original Falkner: Pidgey L7/ Pidgeotto L9
Original Bugsy: Metapod L14/ Kakuna L14/ Scyther L16
Original Whitney: Clefairy L18/ Miltank L20
Original Morty: Gastly L21/ Haunter L21/ Gengar L25/ Haunter L23
Original Chuck: Primeape L27/ Poliwrath L30
Original Jasmine: Magnemite L30/ Magnemite L30/ Steelix L35
Original Pryce: Seel L27/ Dewgong L29/ Piloswine L31
Original Claire: Dragonair L37/ Dragonair L37/ Dragonair L37/ Kingdra L 40
Original Will: Xatu L40/ Jinx L41/ Exxegutor L41/ Slowbro L41/ Xatu L42
Original Koga: Ariados L40/ Venomoth L41/ Forrtress L43/ Muk L42/ Crobat L44
Original Bruno: Hitmontop L42/ Onix L43/ Hitmonchan L42/ Hitmonlee L42/ Machamp L46
Original Karen: Umbreon L42/ Vileplume L42/ Murkrow L44/ Gengar L45/ Houndoom L47
Original Lance: Gyarados L44/ Dragonite L47/ Dragonite L47/ Aerodactyl L46/ Charizard L46/ Dragonite L50
Original Lt. Surge: Raichu L44/ Electrode L40/ Magneton L40/ Electrode L40/ Electabuzz L46
Original Sabrina: Espeon L46/ Mr. Mime L46/ Alakazam L48
Original Misty: Golduck L42/ Quagsire L42/ Lapras L44/ Starmie L47
Original Erika: Tangela L42/ Jumpluff L41/ Victreebell L46/ Bellossom L46
Original Janine: Crobat L36/ Weezing L36/ Weezing L36/ Ariados L33/ Venomoth L39
Original Brock: Graveler L41/ Rhyhorn L41/ Omastar L42/ Onix L44/ Kabutops L42
Original Blaine: Magcargo L45/ Magmar L45/ Rapidash L50
Original Blue: Pidgeot L56/ Alakazam L54/ Rhydon L56/ Gyarados L58/ Exeggutor L58/ Arcanine L58
Original Red: Pikachu L81/ Espeon L73/ Snorlax L75/ Venusaur L77/ Charizard L77/ Blastoise L77
New Falkner: Pidgey L8/ Pidgeotto L10/ Delibird L9 (Johto-unique pokemon, Hustle + Aerial Ace)
New Bugsy: Butterfree L15/ Beedrill L15/ Scyther L17
New Whitney: Clefairy L19/ Miltank L22/ Clefable L21?
New Morty: Haunter L23/ Haunter L24/ Gengar L25/ Misdreavus L25
New Chuck: Primeape L29/ Machoke L30/ Poliwrath L32
New Jasmine: Magneton L34/ Magneton L34/ Steelix L38/ Skarmory L37
New Pryce: Dewgong L40/ Dewgong L40/ Mamoswine L43/ Glaceon L42
New Claire: Dragonair L45/ Dragonair L45/ Dragonair L47/ Kingdra L48
New Will: Xatu L54/ Jinx L55/ Exeggutor L55/ Slowbro L56/ Xatu L56
New Koga: Ariados L55/ Venomoth L57/ Forretress L57/ Muk L57/ Crobat L58
New Bruno: Hitmontop L56/ Steelix L58/ Hitmonchan L56/ Hitmonlee L56/ Machamp L60
New Karen: Umbreon L57/ Vileplume L57/ Honchkrow L59/ Gengar L59/ Houndoom L62
New Lance: Gyarados L61/ Dragonite L64/ Aerodactyl L63/ Charizard L63/ Tyranitar L64/ Dragonite L67
Differences in Johto and Elite 4 start from ~1 and end around ~17.
New Lt. Surge: Raichu L56/ Electrode L54/ Magnezone L54/ Jolteon L54/ Electivire L59
New Sabrina: Espeon L59/ Mr. Mime L59/ Alakazam L62/ Slowbro L60
New Misty: Golduck L56/ Quagsire L56/ Lapras L58/ Starmie L60
New Erika: Tangrowth L57/ Jumpluff L56/ Victreebell L61/ Bellossom L61
New Janine: Crobat L56/ Weezing L55/ Weezing L55/ Ariados L52/ Venomoth L58
New Brock: Golem L56/ Rhyperior L56/ Omastar L58/ Kabutops L58/ Probopass L60
New Blaine: Magcarco L59/ Magmortar L63/ Rapidash L65/ Infernape L63
New Blue: Pidgeot L70/ Alakazam L68/ Rhyperior L70/ Gyarados L73/ Exeggutor L73/ Arcanine L73
New Red: Pikachu L100/ Espeon L90/ Snorlax L94/ Venusaur L97/ Charizard L97/ Blastoise L97
Falkner should not get a Hoot-hoot: you'd probably have seen a million by then. Bugsy should just get the pod evos and Scyther slightly upped. Whitney gains a Clefable. Morty's Gastly should become a Misdreavus. Chuck gains a Machoke. Jasmine gets one Magnemite evo, the other becomes Skarmory. Pryce gets two Dewgong, a Mamoswine, and a Glaceon. Claire just gets upped.
The Elite 4 just mainly gets upped, though Lance gains a Ttar, Karen a Honchkrow, and Bruno a Steelix. Surge loses an Electrode for a Jolteon and gains an Electivire. Sabrina gains a Slowbro. Misty, Erika, and Janine are upped, though Erika gets Tangrowth. Brock gets a Nosepass to replace the Onix, though he could get a Bastiodon or Sudowoodo-or maybe he could get fossil pokemon from the 3rd gen. Blaine gets an Infernape. Blue gets a up. Red becomes close to mastered.
iAmDewgong
Not too shabby
> Bugsy
Flygon Lvl 56
FLYGON!? It's not even almost almost almost almost a bug. Not even close to that. You sure you don't mean... Beedrill?
Flygon Lvl 56
FLYGON!? It's not even almost almost almost almost a bug. Not even close to that. You sure you don't mean... Beedrill?