greywolf123
Well-Known Member
I think I'll go with the battiling outside, because lanturn's more of a aquatic pokemon in my opinion. As for a volenteer for the system, I'd be willing to try, at least to scope it out.
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Gym Wars Discussion
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lifesharker
Spring-Loaded Fish
Just thought I'd add that I'm also willing to guinea pig for your PC vs PC battles idea, and that my battle against Koga is coming soon.
I'l let you RP out the test battle if you want. Since it is a test battle, it can be cut short without any KOs, so long as there is a good show of your character's ability and strategy. If you're not sure, you can send it by PM to me to check (already did this once).
Other things I was just thinking about... Camilla probably won't use her Shedinja for this because it will either be a: you can't hurt it or b: it only takes one shot to KO. Again, the Leader's Pokemon are listed by relative difficulty. The last ones listed (Butterfree, Voltorb, and Koffing) are still being trained. And that last position Pokemon does have to be a bit weak for the tier system to work.
For those of you who want to try out the DnD system, tell me which Pokemon are being battled. I'll decide the outcome by difficulty modifiers on a 20-sided dice roll par.
Other things I was just thinking about... Camilla probably won't use her Shedinja for this because it will either be a: you can't hurt it or b: it only takes one shot to KO. Again, the Leader's Pokemon are listed by relative difficulty. The last ones listed (Butterfree, Voltorb, and Koffing) are still being trained. And that last position Pokemon does have to be a bit weak for the tier system to work.
For those of you who want to try out the DnD system, tell me which Pokemon are being battled. I'll decide the outcome by difficulty modifiers on a 20-sided dice roll par.
Well I did assume the former but I'll do whatever you'd prefer. When you said "surprise you with your opponent" does that means you'll set us up against each other?
Once again, I don't mind what method you choose, your call.
lifesharker
Spring-Loaded Fish
For the DnD test run, I was planning to battle Weezing with Weepinbell. Figured I'd go with a fight of middling difficulty.
lorddarigarn
Bane of Optomists.
I sort of like the idea of the test being as much a show of writing as of battling, but I could do a DnD. You've already seen my original post, but I'll cut it down, don't worry.
greywolf123
Well-Known Member
For the DnD battle, I was thinking Raichu versus Lanturn, somewhat of a challenge, but not impossible.
@Mrmagius: I meant did you want me to pick your opponent Pokemon. The longer battles will likely have back and forth writing, but for this singles round, it might be more efficient for just you challengers to write it. At least, I think so.
@Jason-Kun: Don't need to win. You need to show that you know what you're doing. The mistake Tim made was going exclusively with a first-evo Pokemon that naturally learns just two attacks.
Okay, the dice system. BASICS: In case anybody here hasn't played Dungeons and Dragons, here's how it goes. There will be a set number, out of 20, with which my dice roll has to beat in order for the proposed challenger to win. For instance, a regular Trainer vs Trainer battle has a set par of 10. The challenger needs to have a roll 10 or higher to win the battle/round.
But there's the modifier numbers. If the Challenger has a Pokemon with a type advantage over the Opponent, there is a -1 modifier, so the par is down to 9. There's other modifiers too, and the set par is different for certain opponents.
And there's the extremes. If the dice roll is 1, the Challenger mades a horrible mistake or simply had the worst luck possible (Ex: the Pokemon somehow trips and gives the opponent a free shot at KO). If the dice roll is 20, something extremely lucky happens to help the Challenger (Ex: Critical hit leading to OHKO).
GENERAL: The dice roll determines the outcome; you need to roleplay how it happens. The margin can give you an idea of how close the match is.
I have lifesharker's match outcome. I'll put up the modifiers now, so if anyone thinks something's off or should be done differently, make a suggestion. I'd like to get this ironed out before we get into having PC League Challengers around.
Note that I assume test matches are being played at Tier 1. Otherwise, Simon's Tier level is 3.
Weepingbell vs Weezing
GL battle par: 15
Leader Modifiers
Type Res: +1
Tier1: -3
Final evo: +1
Challenger Modifiers
None
Final par: 14
Dice roll: 12
Result: Weepingbell loses
@Jason-Kun: Don't need to win. You need to show that you know what you're doing. The mistake Tim made was going exclusively with a first-evo Pokemon that naturally learns just two attacks.
Okay, the dice system. BASICS: In case anybody here hasn't played Dungeons and Dragons, here's how it goes. There will be a set number, out of 20, with which my dice roll has to beat in order for the proposed challenger to win. For instance, a regular Trainer vs Trainer battle has a set par of 10. The challenger needs to have a roll 10 or higher to win the battle/round.
But there's the modifier numbers. If the Challenger has a Pokemon with a type advantage over the Opponent, there is a -1 modifier, so the par is down to 9. There's other modifiers too, and the set par is different for certain opponents.
And there's the extremes. If the dice roll is 1, the Challenger mades a horrible mistake or simply had the worst luck possible (Ex: the Pokemon somehow trips and gives the opponent a free shot at KO). If the dice roll is 20, something extremely lucky happens to help the Challenger (Ex: Critical hit leading to OHKO).
GENERAL: The dice roll determines the outcome; you need to roleplay how it happens. The margin can give you an idea of how close the match is.
I have lifesharker's match outcome. I'll put up the modifiers now, so if anyone thinks something's off or should be done differently, make a suggestion. I'd like to get this ironed out before we get into having PC League Challengers around.
Note that I assume test matches are being played at Tier 1. Otherwise, Simon's Tier level is 3.
Weepingbell vs Weezing
GL battle par: 15
Leader Modifiers
Type Res: +1
Tier1: -3
Final evo: +1
Challenger Modifiers
None
Final par: 14
Dice roll: 12
Result: Weepingbell loses
TheSequelReturns
Faithful Crusader
I guess I'll go for the DnD system as well. I was thinking maybe Haunter vs Arbok?
greywolf123
Well-Known Member
I like it! Seems logical, and will help us get though quicker matches, with less importance.
Okay, I've got the other two.
greywolf123
Raichu vs Lanturn
GL battle par: 15
Leader Modifier
Tier1: -3
final evo: +1
Challenger Modifiers
final evo: -1
final par: 12
dice roll: 13
Outcome: Lanturn wins
TheSequelReturns
Haunter va Arbok
GL battle par: 15
Leader Modifier
Tier 1: -3
final evo: +1
Challenger Modifier
Type Res: -1
final par: 12
dice roll: 3
Outcome: Haunter loses
Ouch, sometimes the dice roll comes up bad. In case you're wondering, I didn't do type resistance for Raichu and Lanturn because I figured it evened out. Electrics resist each other and Lanturn's typing causes it to normalize. On the other hand, Poisons resist each other, but Haunter has a double resistance to Poison attacks.
Arbok does have some dark type moves; they don't count (no STAB), but that could explain the result.
greywolf123
Raichu vs Lanturn
GL battle par: 15
Leader Modifier
Tier1: -3
final evo: +1
Challenger Modifiers
final evo: -1
final par: 12
dice roll: 13
Outcome: Lanturn wins
TheSequelReturns
Haunter va Arbok
GL battle par: 15
Leader Modifier
Tier 1: -3
final evo: +1
Challenger Modifier
Type Res: -1
final par: 12
dice roll: 3
Outcome: Haunter loses
Ouch, sometimes the dice roll comes up bad. In case you're wondering, I didn't do type resistance for Raichu and Lanturn because I figured it evened out. Electrics resist each other and Lanturn's typing causes it to normalize. On the other hand, Poisons resist each other, but Haunter has a double resistance to Poison attacks.
Arbok does have some dark type moves; they don't count (no STAB), but that could explain the result.
TheSequelReturns
Faithful Crusader
Ow, I guess Haunter's about to have some pretty bad luck. Can't win them all right?
Cyber Robert
Shockingly Lovely
I suppose DnD system will work...I pm'd it to you but just in case...
Cory Velos
Shedinja vs. Scyther
Cory Velos
Shedinja vs. Scyther
Son_of_Shadows
Well-Known Member
Alright then...
Golbat Vs... Ah, I'll let you pick. I can't remember Koga's squad right now.
Golbat Vs... Ah, I'll let you pick. I can't remember Koga's squad right now.
lifesharker
Spring-Loaded Fish
So I should lose fairly narrowly then. Alright, I'll get down to it right away.
Already PM'd CyberBlastoise about his results. Here's the other two
Son_of_Shadows
Golbat vs Muk
GL par: 15
Leader Modifier
Tier1: -3
final evo: +1
Challenger Modifier
none
final par: 13
dice roll: 14
outcome: Golbat wins
Jason-kun
Scyther vs Scyther
GL par 15
Leader Modifier
Tier1: -3
vs male: +1 (Skyra has Attract...)
Challenger Modifier
none
final par: 13
dice roll: 13
outcome: um... draw? Or very narrow win/loss.
I told you she was a flirt.
Son_of_Shadows
Golbat vs Muk
GL par: 15
Leader Modifier
Tier1: -3
final evo: +1
Challenger Modifier
none
final par: 13
dice roll: 14
outcome: Golbat wins
Jason-kun
Scyther vs Scyther
GL par 15
Leader Modifier
Tier1: -3
vs male: +1 (Skyra has Attract...)
Challenger Modifier
none
final par: 13
dice roll: 13
outcome: um... draw? Or very narrow win/loss.
I told you she was a flirt.
greywolf123
Well-Known Member
Well, That works for me, but I was working off volt absorb myself, which makes it immune to electric attacks. Still, that seems reasonable to me.