Hacking in Pokemon

[PokemonTrainerKaden]

As a former Action Replay hacker, I would like to say that it's not necessarily hurting much at all except your game and your DS. I was one of the ones who only ever hacked AFTER I beat the main game, and I did it because it was fun. It renewed the game, and the fact that Pokemon wasn't that hard either way made it so that I pretty much don't care about hacking it.

 

[Watchog]

To answer your questions i'd say 50/50 pokemon are hacked "in some way or another" doesn't matter if it is slight, Still.

You obviously didn't read the rules. We don't talk about hacking on this site. -_- Now delete this Thread or a Mod will close it.

And to answer your obvious question, People use to do that years ago. Nintendo is trying to fix the issue so the chances of unfair matches are a 3/70.

1.Rules were unintentionally made to be broken. Specially stupid rules. Also the thread is fine.

2.You're acting mod.

 

[Blazeing Man]

i Dont like hacking becase nintendo and game freak dont actually make Action Replays and Game Sharks. It is an un lisensed prephereal and is NOT GOOD.

If your a hacker you cant be my freind even though i have a lot fof friends NONE OF THEM HACK. Becasue if they did they would nolonger be my freind.

 

[AmbipomMaster]

When I tried to play competitive, I spent a good month breeding for perfect IVs in at least 3 stats (the ones I was looking for)
-I did not like, though, when the BW judge called its spread "decent" though

But, this conversation about using PokeGen, I'm kinda convinced on using it, but only for these reasons:
-Getting Pokemon like Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys, Shaymin, Arceus, and Manaphy (since I couldn't obtain them previously)
-Boosting the IV spread higher (like 31s in the favorable stats, 20s or so in the others)

I would still EV train and breed for Natures and such (since I really enjoy doing that) but I'd only use to complete the Pokedex/boost my WiFi competitive team.

Does that make me a bad person?
Also, is there any downsides that anyone has encountered when "hacking" Legendaries to games for Pokedex purposes?

 

[Tuskie Tyrant Yoko Kurama]

Also, is there any downsides that anyone has encountered when "hacking" Legendaries to games for Pokedex purposes?

No, I don't believe there is. If you don't have a way of getting said Legendary without Wi-Fi or a friend, then that may be your only choice. I've been faced with a problem like that, but it was getting a Machamp and I didn't know anyone who had a DS at the time.

 

[Zenotwapal]

When I tried to play competitive, I spent a good month breeding for perfect IVs in at least 3 stats (the ones I was looking for)
-I did not like, though, when the BW judge called its spread "decent" though

But, this conversation about using PokeGen, I'm kinda convinced on using it, but only for these reasons:
-Getting Pokemon like Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys, Shaymin, Arceus, and Manaphy (since I couldn't obtain them previously)
-Boosting the IV spread higher (like 31s in the favorable stats, 20s or so in the others)

I would still EV train and breed for Natures and such (since I really enjoy doing that) but I'd only use to complete the Pokedex/boost my WiFi competitive team.

Does that make me a bad person?
Also, is there any downsides that anyone has encountered when "hacking" Legendaries to games for Pokedex purposes?

You can get 31 IVs in ever stat by regular every day means, you know that right?

i Dont like hacking becase nintendo and game freak dont actually make Action Replays and Game Sharks. It is an un lisensed prephereal and is NOT GOOD.

If your a hacker you cant be my freind even though i have a lot fof friends NONE OF THEM HACK. Becasue if they did they would nolonger be my freind.

this is a bit extreme don't you think?

 

[Diz~]

There is nothing wrong with hacking if it in your own respective game. But bringing a hack Pokemon into an online tournament will be a real kick in the nut. Which I bet the majority of them are using hack pokemon.

 

[Iris Mist]

i Dont like hacking becase nintendo and game freak dont actually make Action Replays and Game Sharks. It is an un lisensed prephereal and is NOT GOOD.

If your a hacker you cant be my freind even though i have a lot fof friends NONE OF THEM HACK. Becasue if they did they would nolonger be my freind.

this is a bit extreme don't you think?

It is extreme. First of all, how to you know none of your friends hack? Maybe they're hiding it to avoid a childish fight.

I personally don't have anything against it, I've hacked in the past to fill in my Pokedex. These days, if I use my AR, it's simply to speed up the game. If I battled competitively, I wouldn't enter with hacked pokemon, nor would I like facing hacked pokemon.

 

[FairyWitch]

isn't this against the rules talking about hacking, oh well and im extremely against hacking...i don't find joy in this at all i use to do it when i was a kid and now i hate it with all passion >.<

 

[The Benmeister]

As several have already said, I don't mind if people hack at all, it's their game, just don't pollute everyone else's game with their hacked Pokemon through GTS etc.

As for the thread's original enquiry, I consider just random wi-fi battling to be busted anyway, so you're gonna see hacked Pokemon from someone no doubt.

 

[randomspot555]

isn't this against the rules talking about hacking,

No. There's a post from a mod on the first page.

 

[mauwie]

i used to hack for competitive play.. although i don't really do that anymore since gen 4. i don't mind if others did it either, i know how long it can take to breed a perfect pokemon and ev train every single pokemon can be extremely tedious. i do think it takes all of the fun out of gameplay and haven't hacked into my games since gen 4 - everything i own is completely legit in newer b/w 1/2 games. i know a lot of people like to rng too... which is technically not hacking, but still using some sort of external device in my opinion is still somewhat cheating [; even if the game calls it legit. but by all means, it's your game, do what you want to it - just don't go throwing them into the gts with cheated pokemon.

 

[BurningWhiteKyurem]

i used to hack for competitive play.. although i don't really do that anymore since gen 4. i don't mind if others did it either, i know how long it can take to breed a perfect pokemon and ev train every single pokemon can be extremely tedious. i do think it takes all of the fun out of gameplay and haven't hacked into my games since gen 4 - everything i own is completely legit in newer b/w 1/2 games. i know a lot of people like to rng too... which is technically not hacking, but still using some sort of external device in my opinion is still somewhat cheating [; even if the game calls it legit. but by all means, it's your game, do what you want to it - just don't go throwing them into the gts with cheated pokemon.

How does it make any sense to consider RNG cheating just because it uses a third party software? There is an obvious difference...RNG does not download software into the actual game and edits Pokemon. Instead, the third party software only tells you when to hit your frame to get your flawless and/or shiny Pokemon. Difference is that you're doing it from the computer...not within the game cartridge. The game doesn't call it legit, the game creates that pokemon via entering the frame that the RNG software tells you to enter.

Hence, you cannot argue that it is hacking.

 

[mauwie]

How does it make any sense to consider RNG cheating just because it uses a third party software? There is an obvious difference...RNG does not download software into the actual game and edits Pokemon. Instead, the third party software only tells you when to hit your frame to get your flawless and/or shiny Pokemon. Difference is that you're doing it from the computer...not within the game cartridge. The game doesn't call it legit, the game creates that pokemon via entering the frame that the RNG software tells you to enter.

Hence, you cannot argue that it is hacking.

i wasn't really arguing it was hacking, its my own personal opinion [; sorry if it bothers you.

 

[randomspot555]

i wasn't really arguing it was hacking, its my own personal opinion [; sorry if it bothers you.

With that logic, anything short of button mashing can be considered "cheating".

Just because its an opinion doesn't mean it is infallible or immune from criticism.

 

[Diz~]

How does it make any sense to consider RNG cheating just because it uses a third party software? There is an obvious difference...RNG does not download software into the actual game and edits Pokemon. Instead, the third party software only tells you when to hit your frame to get your flawless and/or shiny Pokemon. Difference is that you're doing it from the computer...not within the game cartridge. The game doesn't call it legit, the game creates that pokemon via entering the frame that the RNG software tells you to enter.

Hence, you cannot argue that it is hacking.

The moment you said computer is automatically hacking already. I thought RNG was in game, but if it external, then it still cheating no matter how you sugar coat it.

 

[Zenotwapal]

The moment you said computer is automatically hacking already. I thought RNG was in game, but if it external, then it still cheating no matter how you sugar coat it.

Hacking is defined as altering the coding of the game to obtain a desired result. RNGing does in no way fall under this.

 

[Agonist]

The moment you said computer is automatically hacking already. I thought RNG was in game, but if it external, then it still cheating no matter how you sugar coat it.

By that logic, Dream World is hacking too.

 

[BurningWhiteKyurem]

The moment you said computer is automatically hacking already. I thought RNG was in game, but if it external, then it still cheating no matter how you sugar coat it.

Did you even read before stating what you said?
"RNG does not download software into the actual game and edits Pokemon. Instead, the third party software only tells you when to hit your frame to get your flawless and/or shiny Pokemon. Difference is that you're doing it from the computer...not within the game cartridge."

- The game creates the shiny pokemon depending on the frame that you hit. You did not hack the shiny pokemon in the game, nor did you alter the game's coding to get that Pokemon.
- RNG is in-game and refers to Random Number Generator. A generator that randomizes ALL events within the game, the software in the computer only tells you what time, and what to do in order to get to that specific frame INSIDE the GAME.
- RNG doesn't alter the code of the game itself in order to get you the desired Pokemon.

RNG doesn't even come as CLOSE to cheating with the likes of AR, Pokedit, Pokesav, Pokegen etc. And like Agonist said, by your logic, Dream World and GL Events are hacks then since they require a computer to get them.

 

[Dragalge]

As much as its a pain to get your perfect Pokemon or learning the steps to RNG, I never hacked my Pokemon games since early Gen 4, and I only used that to utilize the Vitamins to speed up the process of EV training and Rare Candies to help increase the stats afterwards.