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[snorlax]

Dragonite (F) @ Choice Band ** aquafina
Trait: Inner Focus
EVs: 112 HP / 252 Atk / 144 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Focus Punch
- Hidden Power [Flying]

Snorlax (F) @ Leftovers ** modem
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 160 HP / 84 Atk / 76 Def / 8 Spd / 180 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Curse
- Focus Punch
- Rest

Houndoom (M) @ Leftovers ** ipod
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 80 HP / 192 Spd / 236 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Pursuit
- Will-O-Wisp

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers ** three dollars
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP / 192 Def / 64 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Roar
- Spikes
- Substitute

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers ** centrum
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 25 Atk / 148 Def / 84 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Protect

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers ** oatmeal
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 168 HP / 252 Def / 46 SAtk / 44 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Ice Beam
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled

 

[chaos952]

lol, your thread is going to get pwnt again.

Anyways, like 0mastar said before, Gengar has fun with this team.

How are you going to get Houndoom in on Gengar, especially if you're facing one that has Substitute? The Destiny Bond version can Destiny Bond you while you're bringing in Houndoom, so that you can't attack it without losing Houndoom.

Destiny Bond Gengar is cooler than Substitute Gengar (in my opinion) for these two reasons:

1. It can force alot of switches.

2.

Begin Turn #4
-_- Biazi -_- withdrew Rhydon!
-_- Biazi -_- sent out Tyranitar (Lv.100 Tyranitar)!
Tyranitar's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm!
---------------------------------
Sinister used Destiny Bond!
Sinister is trying to take its foe with it!
---------------------------------
The sandstorm rages.
Sinister is buffeted by the sandstorm!
Sinister's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #4
-_- Biazi -_-'s Tyranitar: 100% HP
chaos952's Sinister: 19 HP

Begin Turn #5
Sinister is tightening its focus!
Tyranitar used Dragon Dance!
Tyranitar's Attack rose!
Tyranitar's Speed rose!
---------------------------------
Sinister used Focus Punch!
(100% damage)
A critical hit!
It's super effective!
Tyranitar fainted!

 

[snorlax]

gengar doesnt exactly rape clops

 

[StallerSweeperSponge]

No, but considering Clops is an easy switch out...

I would agree with chaos, McIceGar hurts badly. But honestly, it can only take out a few things at a time. If it has Sub it has to have FP, and that means it can kill 2 Pokes so far on this team. If it doesn't have Ice Punch, Drag laughs at it. If it doesn't have Giga Drain, Swampert kills it. If it doesn't have Thunderbolt, Skarm owns its face. So... you get the idea.

And honestly, a non-powered up/non-super effective attack is never going to KO Clops. That much is certain.

 

[snorlax]

thank you for stating the obvious

Ice Beam Bliss ftw>Clops

 

[chaos952]

Ice Beam won't do crap to Dusclops, especially when it will outstall you with Pain Split and Pressure.

 

[Judgement0]

Besides the McIceGar weak, Blaziken can mess you up pretty bad with the right moves and prediction. Especially if it gets your swampert on the switch with something nasty.

 

[aipomkong]

swampert...

 

[snorlax]

what the fuick is chaos talking about

i replaced clops with blissey

 

[Delta]

replacing dusclops leaves you quite open to fighting Cbers for rape, and Snorlax can do the special walling job already

 

[Pax Deorum]

Flamethrower is crap on Houndoom.
Go Overheat and I'm serious

 

[DragonDance]

lol @ 0ma's sig.

Agreeing with overheat.

 

[Judgement0]

IMO, no overheat on houndoom. Fire Blast > Overheat. Houndoom is a special attacker. Fire Blast is always better for special attacking.

Edit: Dusclops would be useful. You don't need Blissey.

 

[DragonDance]

Houndoom wont be staying in a lot, so Overheat > Blast

 

[Judgement0]

What if it stays in more than you think? then you're screwed. It needs the special attack and already gets major STAB + Flash Fire. Fire Blast > Overheat.

Also, since you have HP Ice and may want to kill something, youll need the special attack power.

 

[DragonDance]

It won't stay in.

 

[Judgement0]

It will stay in if they have no choice but to stay in. Also, they would stay in if it has the chance to kill a few things.

btw, HP grass is an option for killing Swamperts, but HP Ice is better type coverage in some cases.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

I'm pretty sure houndoom can take at least one hit. I like fireblast rather than overheat on houndoom because Houndoom needs spl attack (Not like balziken, camerupt, ect) That harsh SPL atk loss kills its STAB'd crunch (Which is an option over persuit) and HP ice. And Houndoom isnt Medicham, it can actually be hit by stuff and not be OHKO'd

 

[snorlax]

Dragonite (F) @ Choice Band ** aquafina
Trait: Inner Focus
EVs: 112 HP / 252 Atk / 144 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Focus Punch
- Hidden Power [Flying]

Snorlax (F) @ Leftovers ** modem
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 160 HP / 84 Atk / 76 Def / 8 Spd / 180 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Curse
- Focus Punch
- Rest

Houndoom (M) @ Leftovers ** ipod
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 80 HP / 192 Spd / 236 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Overheat
- Pursuit
- Will-O-Wisp

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers ** three dollars
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP / 192 Def / 64 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Roar
- Spikes
- Substitute

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers ** centrum
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 25 Atk / 148 Def / 84 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Protect

Dusclops (F) @ Leftovers ** lighter
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 84 Def / 40 Spd / 52 SAtk / 82 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Will-O-Wisp

 

[Judgement0]

Edits and opinions in bold.

Dragonite (F) @ Choice Band ** aquafina
Trait: Inner Focus
EVs: 112 HP / 252 Atk / 144 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Focus Punch
- Hidden Power [Flying]

I guess it works. It does have the defenses. I don't like the idea of using this though. I like using Focus Punch/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt/HP Grass or Substitute/Focus Punch/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt since those sets have less resistances.

Snorlax (F) @ Leftovers ** modem
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 160 HP / 84 Atk / 76 Def / 8 Spd / 180 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Curse
- Focus Punch
- Rest

IMO, use Shadow Ball over Focus Punch. Ghost types own that set.

Houndoom (M) @ Leftovers ** ipod
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 80 HP / 192 Spd / 236 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Fire Blast
- Pursuit
- Will-O-Wisp

Fire Blast > Overheat. It's useful to have more special attack.

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers ** three dollars
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP / 192 Def / 64 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Roar
- Spikes
- Substitute

I guess you can use this. I usually use Forretress as my physical wall, though. Also, you can try Whirlwind and HP Flying over Drill Peck and Roar so that BP-Mime teams don't mess you up.

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers ** centrum
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 25 Atk / 148 Def / 84 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Protect

Dusclops (F) @ Leftovers ** lighter
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 84 Def / 40 Spd / 52 SAtk / 82 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Will-O-Wisp

Pain Split/Will-O-Wisp/Snatch/Shadow Ball could work since you can grab recovery moves, heal yourself, deal a bit of damage, and spread the burn.