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help me build my team

adnan

my ultimate espeon!
hey guys listen this is my team so far can u give me advice of the natures u think my pokemon shud hav, some advice on the moves, and advice on which pokemon i shud choose

espeon at a modest nature - psychic
morning sun
sunny day
hidden power

kingdra ??? nature - hydro pump
ice beam
rain dance
????

dragonite ??? nature - outrage
dragon dance
eathquake
???

venasaur ??? nature - sleep powder
leech seed
solarbeam
sludge bomb

im not sure about this but i think i nee an annoyin pokemon

thts is my thought - shuckle ??? nature
???
???
??/

and i need another powerhouse with ood defence but good enough to take out defensive pokemon like umbereon slaking and snorlax

plz guys help me give me advice on wat pokemon i shoukd use , the nature and the moves plz thanx guys
 

Dark-Matter

Well-Known Member
hey guys listen this is my team so far can u give me advice of the natures u think my pokemon shud hav, some advice on the moves, and advice on which pokemon i shud choose

Espeon @ Leftovers
Modest nature
Psychic
Morning Sun
Sunny Day
Hidden Power (Fire)

Kingdra @ Lum Berry
Modest Nature
Surf
Ice beam
Rain Dance
Dragonbreath

Dagonite @ Leftovers
Adamant Nature
Thunder Bolt
Dagon dance
Eahquake
Aerial Ace

Venusaur @ Leftovers
Calm Nature
Seep Powder
Leech Seed
Razor Leaf
Sudge bomb

Changes in Bold.
 

adnan

my ultimate espeon!
awsome thanx man but wat do u think about shuckle and wats the other pokemon do u think i should use
 

adnan

my ultimate espeon!
and how do i get hidden power to be fire?
 

Dark-Matter

Well-Known Member
Don't double post use the edit button.

http://www.serebii.net/games/hidden-power.shtml

This will explain what Hidden Power is (I can't be bothered doing it myself).

http://www.serebii.net/games/iv-calc.shtml

By using this IV calculater you can find out what Hidden Power it has got.

Getting the right HP is rather difficult so here's an alternate moveset for Espeon:

Espeon @ Leftovers
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Substitute
- Baton Pass

For your last pokemon I arn't so sure. Possibly a tank like Milotic. Here's the moveset:

Milotic @ Leftovers
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
 

adnan

my ultimate espeon!
souns good wat do u think about shuckel i want him to be th annoying pokrmon cuz of his defence
 

Dark-Matter

Well-Known Member
Shuckle is crap don't use him. He may have high defences but his HP is the worst, second to the Ghost-Bug, Shedinja. He isn't so good so use Milotic instead, or if you want some thing else as you final member?
 
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adnan

my ultimate espeon!
i know milotic is good but jhes not s annoyin u know i want a pokemon who confuse or gives them statuse effects cuz shuckle isn the easiest to kill u know his type is ****in weird im thinking of giving him toxic and annoying moves like dat or wat u fink of snorlax or stellix
 

Dark-Matter

Well-Known Member
For Snorlax the best moveset would be this:

Snorlax @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
Adamant (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Body Slam
- Earthquake
- Rest

This s probably the best set for Snorlax, Curselax. Basicly, already a good special wall, curse raises his attack and defence so he can now take physical hits well. Rest to restore health then sweep. Well not exactly as he's not that fast.

Annoyers aren't that good so I wouldn'y bother with them, tanks do the jab just as good. But if you want an annoyer then you can alter Milotics set slightly:

Milotic @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Toxic/Hypnosis

Not as good as the sleep talk set but still works.
 

adnan

my ultimate espeon!
ut the fing is im pretty sure i figting a umbereon, slaking and snorlax so i think a fighting move wud be in place
 

adnan

my ultimate espeon!
a friend who is an awsome trainer im sure he will bve using most of those pokemon and its going to be hard to beat him the fing is he taught evryfin about pokemon and the other freind who taught me i have to fight him 2 lol so wat do u fink
 

adnan

my ultimate espeon!
nope its a complete suprise its a master v.s student match me being the student! so im sticking with espoen, venasaur , dragonite , kingdra ??? , ?? but who else!? i think a annoyin defencive fighting pokemon by the way its non legendary
 

Dark-Matter

Well-Known Member
Snorlax and Milotic would make good members.

Here's the counters I can come up with:

Snorlax:Special attack is good but defence is crap. A few volleys of Earthquakes from Dragonight should beat it.

Umbreon:Taunt skrews up it's annoying capability, but you probably won't have a pokemon with that. Both it's defences are good but it's defence is the lowest. A physical volley should beat it eventually. Alternetly you could attack it with status infliction. Toxic then stall, Milotic should be able to pull this off.

Slaking: This guy will be hard with his god like stats. His SpDef is lower than average so try to utilise this. Try a special volley.

I haven't given any real strategy with these tactics. Basicly focused on their weakest defences. Does your friend use any real strategy. Does he have a user name on serebii.
 

adnan

my ultimate espeon!
hes really talented that is the problem do u fink i should work on his attack then i can give him brick break hows dat i dnt wnt anova water type kingdra ios enough
 

Dark-Matter

Well-Known Member
Kingdra's not the best water type. If you want only one water type then swap Kingdra for Milotic, you can't go wrong with him. He has exellent tanking abilities.

On Dragonight you could swap Aerial Ace for Brick Break for this specific battle. I would also recomend swaping Espeon for a special sweeper, if your friend is good you'll want to use some of the best pokemon available.
Gengar is one of the best special sweepers in the game. Here's the moveset:


Gengar @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Modest Nature
- Fire Punch
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Punch
- Giga Drain
 

adnan

my ultimate espeon!
sounds good but il never switch out espeon my espeon sp attck at 56 is over 200 alrready he is my fav u know but milotic he um his type it can be beatebn eeasdilky unlike kingdra only one type is supereffective against him u get me
 

Dark-Matter

Well-Known Member
Strength isn't based upon on type and type weaknesess. Milotic may have more type weaknesess than Kingdra but it can take a lot more hits than Kingdra and can also restore health with restore. It also has a higher sp.atk stat meaning it's gonner be dealing more damage than Kingdra.

You can keep Espeon but I would recomend adding Gengar to your team too, he will really help out.

If you still dont believe me have a look at this:

http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=157473

This will give you a good idea of what pokemon are good at what job.
 

Frost Nova

The predator awaits.
sounds good but il never switch out espeon my espeon sp attck at 56 is over 200 alrready he is my fav u know but milotic he um his type it can be beatebn eeasdilky unlike kingdra only one type is supereffective against him u get me

You've got to be kidding me.

Milotic's one of the best bulky waters out there. That thing takes hits, especially physical hits and status effects like nothing. Rest + Sleep Talk absolutely rapes the BF. Kingdra's moveset sucks. Enough said.

And for your friend's team? A Dragon Dancing Tyranitar with Taunt is guaranteed to sweep him away. Here's the set.

T-Tar@lefties
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Taunt / Substitute / T-Wave

Dragon Dance boosts your titanic attack and below average speed, Earthquake for raw damage, Rock Slide for STAB. Taunt screws up annoyers / stallers like Umbreon, while Substitute blocks status effects while you Dragon Dance up. This thing is pure power personified. Nuff said.

If you want something to annoy, you could try out Weezing or Skarmory.

Weezing@lefties
Impish / Relaxed Nature
- Will-o-Wisp
- Haze / Shadow Ball / Explosion / Fire Blast
- Sludge Bomb
- Pain Split / Rest

Blocks Snorlax, Slaking and Umbreon decently, and with Haze you can 'annoy' by removing all stat ups. Shadow Ball is for ghosts, Fire Blast for steels, Explosion to go out with a bang (pun intended). Pain Split / Rest so you survive longer. Go with Impish for non Fire Blasting versions and go with Relaxed if you are.

Skarmory@lefties
Impish Nature
- Drill Peck / Aerial Ace
- Roar / Whirlwind
- Rest
- Spikes

Quite simple really. Lay down your Spikes, once you're done, Roar / Whirlwind them away and cause damage. Drill Peck / Aerial Ace anything that refuses to switch out. Rest so you survive longer. Works better against real life opponents who actually switch instead of the AI.
 
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