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Help Needed for Platinum Run-Through!

Discussion in '4th Gen RMT' started by Cmack102, Mar 12, 2013.

  1. Cmack102

    Cmack102 Well-Known Member

    Right, so I'm starting my re-play-through of Platinum :D But I need some opinions for my team, this is what it is so far.. Note that this is just what I want the layout to be eventually, along the way of course, the move-set will be different.

    Infernape: (Adamant)
    Close Combat
    Flare Blitz
    Thunder Punch
    Swords Dance
    ~
    Togekiss: (Timid)
    Yawn
    Wish
    Endeavour
    Fly
    ~
    Roserade: (Hasty)
    Grasswhistle
    Synthesis
    Sludge Bomb
    Energy Ball/Petal Dance
    ~
    Froslass: (Mild)
    Destiny Bond >:D
    Crunch?
    Ice Beam
    Shadow Ball
    ~
    Gallade: (Adamant)
    Zen Headbutt
    Close Combat
    Hypnosis
    Dream Eater/Drain Punch
    ~
    Kingdra: (Lonely)
    Waterfall
    Outrage
    Yawn
    Dragon Dance

    ~
    Still not too sure about Kingdra, it's move-pool is horrible, it's either Kingdra, Snorlax or Rhyperior. (I think all 3 would be good for coverage, either that or Electivire)
    When I re-play a game or play a new game, I try to use pokemon I've never trained before :3 It's a fun way to re-play things!

    Thanks :3
     
  2. Shine

    Shine Psyched Up Staff Member Moderator

    Togekiss
    Modest/Calm/Timid Nature, Serene Grace ability
    ~Air Slash
    ~Aura Sphere
    ~Nasty Plot
    ~Flamethrower

    Wish and Endeavor don't match each other well, and Fly on a Timid Togekiss is a bad idea.



    Roserade
    Modest/Timid Nature
    ~Shadow Ball
    ~Giga Drain
    ~Sludge Bomb
    ~Weather Ball/Hidden Power [anything not Grass/Ghost/Steel/Poison]

    Don't bother with Synthesis in-game, you have access to potions.



    Froslass
    Modest/Timid Nature
    ~Shadow Ball
    ~Ice Beam
    ~Thunderbolt
    ~Destiny Bond/Hidden Power [anything not Ice/Ghost/Electric/Dark/Steel/Poison]

    You don't need Crunch, Ghost shares similar coverage with Dark.



    Gallade @ Scope Lens
    Adamant Nature
    ~Close Combat
    ~Psycho Cut
    ~Night Slash
    ~Stone Edge/Leaf Blade

    Dream Eater is a bad idea on an Adamant Gallade, and having only STAB moves is a bad idea as well. Dark + Fight has a wide coverage.
     
  3. ((JAWS))

    ((JAWS)) Johto Trainer

    Infernape@Focus Sash
    -Swords Dance
    -Fire Punch
    -Thunderpunch
    -Close Combat

    No need for flare bits when you have a physical stat booster. Infernape isn't made to be mixed sweeper.
     
  4. Cmack102

    Cmack102 Well-Known Member

    Right, well I thought the nature changed each time the egg hatched, not when you receive the egg..
    So Togepi is stuck with a naughty nature.
    Any suggestions for move-sets? I can probably just switch the moves around for their Physical Counterparts..

    Togekiss: (Naughty)
    (Black Belt)
    Double-Edge
    Drain Punch
    Yawn/Sweet Kiss
    Extreme Speed
     
    Last edited: Mar 13, 2013
  5. ((JAWS))

    ((JAWS)) Johto Trainer

    With Naughty Nature.

    Togekiss@Life Orb
    -Shadow Ball
    -Fire Blast
    -Extreme Speed
    -Nasty Plot
     
  6. Aura Sensei™

    Aura Sensei™ User Title

    Jaws, 104 / 104 Offenses are made for Mixed, or a Sweeper from either side of the spectrum.

    Alas, why ExtemeSpeed with Nasty Plot? That is pointless. Shine has already posted a nice NP set anyways which beats yours any day of the week.

    Kingdra can use Substitute instead of Yawn imo.
     
  7. Shine

    Shine Psyched Up Staff Member Moderator

    What about breeding for another Togepi?

    It's basically pointless to use a Naughty Togekiss due to a major lack of Attack stat (its base Attack is only 50, while its base SAtk is 120)

    and Naughty reduce SDef, one of its best stat.
     
  8. ((JAWS))

    ((JAWS)) Johto Trainer

    He has a wide move pool so a nasty plot set up was a suggestion.
     
  9. Aura Sensei™

    Aura Sensei™ User Title

    Again, you prove to know nothing about the simplest of things. Nasty Plot dosen't boost ESpeed, so I fail to understand the point. Please elaborate.
     
  10. Cmack102

    Cmack102 Well-Known Member

    Regardless it's Sp-a will still be higher, so I don't see why with one or two nasty plot's it couldn't still sweep. It opens up opportunities to use some physical moves, as long as they have semi-decent base power.. I could breed it, however it was a bit of a pain making it friendly enough to evolve. But those are my options..
     
  11. ((JAWS))

    ((JAWS)) Johto Trainer

    Nasty Plot is one of the best moves for special attacking, due to the wide move pool and despite its stats it's a good setup for the special attacks given to him. I'm of course gonna take advantage of flamethrower when given the opportunity through stat boost.
     
  12. Aura Sensei™

    Aura Sensei™ User Title

    Shine had previously posted a set that took better advantage of NP. ESpeed with NP is retarted, so why would you not use Air Slash?
     
  13. ((JAWS))

    ((JAWS)) Johto Trainer

    You spelled the word "Retarded" wrong which is quite ironic :p. Anyways let the OP pick his sets I'm just putting my input out there to help him, not fight with you, if you want to correct me fine, but don't be downright stubborn about it.
     
  14. Aura Sensei™

    Aura Sensei™ User Title

    ^ I'm not stubborn, you're the one being stubborn. You constantly post shitty sets and whenever I'm there to say you need to learn you headlessly continue posting shitty sets and go "hurr durr use extremespeed on togekiss". You never took a minute to listen, which is why I have to put it through your head.
     
  15. ((JAWS))

    ((JAWS)) Johto Trainer

    I think the thread is about the OP trying to improve his team, if you would like to message me about your personal
    issues then you can, but this is not the time or place to be cursing out the OP's thread.
     
  16. Aura Sensei™

    Aura Sensei™ User Title

    I am; I'm fixing your mistakes so the OP dosen't take your crappy advice.
     
  17. ((JAWS))

    ((JAWS)) Johto Trainer

    Then calm down and don't curse. It was not very effective. (No pun intended)
     
  18. Aura Sensei™

    Aura Sensei™ User Title

    I'll have to redirect you to another section if you don't like cursing, as this is the usual route when people don't listen. Also, I am being calm.
     
  19. ((JAWS))

    ((JAWS)) Johto Trainer

    Read the rules
    8. Don't troll or flame users. Be respectful.
    Includes the use of language that's racial, religious, rude, sexually explicit, insulting, threatening, abusive, hateful, ethnic, or just a general intent to annoy others.
     
  20. Aura Sensei™

    Aura Sensei™ User Title

    Except most of the time the Mods here allow it, as they themselves know people who don't listen need to be told, regardless if it's bluntly.
     

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