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Help with team needed!

MorningStar

Active Member
Ok..Im resetting my Diamond and here's what team i have in my mind. Be free to change anything! Help especially with moves and EVs.

New Team:

Physical Sweepers:

Flygon@???
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Adamant
EVs:???
Stone Edge
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
???(probably a physical attack thats strong against ice)

Primeape@???
Ability:Vital Spirit
Nature: Adamant
EVs:???
Cross Chop
Low Kick
???
???

Special Sweepers:

Roserade@Persim berry
Ability:???
Nature:Modest
EVs:???
Petal Dance
Ingrain
???
???

Magmar
Ability:Flame Body
Nature:Modest
EVs:???
Flamethrower
???
???
???

Physical Wall:

Cloyster
Ability:Shell Armor
Nature:Bold
EVs:???
Spikes
Supersonic
???
???

Special Wall:

Bronzong
Ability:
Nature:???
EVs:???
Hypnosis
Confuse Ray
Heal Block
???
 

arceus03

Well-Known Member
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Flygon, Adamant (+Atk, -SAtk)
-Stone Edge/U-Turn
-Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Fire Blast
Stone Edge is already strong for Ice.

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Primeape, Jolly (+Speed, -SAtk)
-Close Combat
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Return/U-Turn/Aerial Ace

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Roserade, Modest (+SAtk, -Atk)
-Sludge Bomb
-Energy Ball/Leaf Storm
-Extrasensory
-Shadow Ball
Or replace Sludge Bomb and Extrasensory for Sleep Powder and Growth. Weather sets would either hinder Magmortar or Cloyster.

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Magmortar, Modest (+SAtk, -Atk)
-Flamethrower/Fire Blast/Lava Plume
-Thunderbolt
-Focus Blast
-Psychic/HP: Ice

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Cloyster, Rash (+SAtk, -SDef)
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Explosion
-Toxic Spikes
Cloyster does not have a large movepool unfortunately.

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Bronzong, Sassy (+SDef, -Speed)
-Gyro Ball
-Earthquake
-Rest
-Sleep Talk

If you want pure wall, though,
Item: Light Clay
-Toxic
-Reflect
-Light Screen
-Gyro Ball/Earthquake
I think.
 

Icosahedron

レミオロメン♪
Flygon @ Choice Band / Life Orb
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -Sp. Atk) / Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Sp. Atk)
EV's: 6 HP // 252 Atk // 252 Spd
~ Earthquake
~ Dragon Claw
~ Fire Blast
~ Crunch / Stone Edge / U-turn

U-turn is pretty much the only thing that sets it apart from Salamence besides STAB Earthquake, so it's an option. Quite nice with Choice Band, and extremely useful for scouting.

Primeape @ Life Orb / Choice Scarf
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Sp. Atk)
EV's: 6 HP // 252 Atk // 252 Spd
~ Cross Chop / Close Combat
~ Stone Edge
~ Punishment
~ U-turn / Earthquake

Punishment is great fun against Calm Mind'ers.

Roserade @ Choice Specs
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
EV's: 6 HP // 252 Sp. Atk // 252 Spd
~ Leaf Storm
~ Shadow Ball
~ Sludge Bomb
~ Sleep Powder / Energy Ball / Extrasensory

Extrasensory and Leaf Storm is possible if you breed a female Roselia/Roserade holding Rose Incense with a male Shiftry that knows both moves. Weather Ball is an interesting option for Roserade but since your team clearly isn't weather-oriented, it's not preferable.

Magmar? Surely you mean Magmortar:

Magmortar @ Leftovers
Mild Nature (+Sp. Atk, -Def)
~ Flamethrower
~ Thunderbolt
~ Will-O-Wisp / Substitute
~ Focus Blast / Focus Punch

Use Substitute only with Focus Punch, obviously. I'm not too good with specific EV spreads, but I'd say to max special attack and toss the rest into Speed and HP.

Cloyster @ Leftovers
Lax Nature (+Def, -Sp. Def)
EV's: 100 HP // 252 Def // 152 Sp. Atk
~ Surf
~ Ice Beam
~ Explosion
~ Iron Defense / Return

Blah I suck at EV's. Ingame you won't ever need Spikes or Rapid Spin. However, if you plan on using this team on Wi-Fi, I'd recommend both of those moves.

Bronzong @ Leftovers
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
EV's: 252 HP // 252 Def // 6 Sp. Def
~ Hypnosis
~ Calm Mind
~ Extrasensory / Psychic
~ Rest / Confuse Ray / Flash Cannon

Meh.
 

MorningStar

Active Member
Actually, its not a typo. I chose Magmar since it has higher speed or is MAgmortar really better?.....
 
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Magmortar has higher Attack and Sp.Attack.... so you should use it... It also learns more moves. *coughTHUNDERBOLTcough*

Magmortar (Mild/Rash Nature) @Expert Belt
EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 84 Attack, 172 Speed
-Flamethrower/Fire Blast
-Thunderbolt
-Cross Chop
-EQ

I don't really see the point of having Primeape and Flygon on a single team, if both are playing the same role, but whatever.

is what I would use.
 

MorningStar

Active Member
That's like what i said, feel free to change anything.. Even the pokemon....But thanks for your help anyways. I appreciate all your help.
 

[GS]

Staring at my phone
I dunno much about most of the other's but I know a good set for cloyster

Cloyster @ Nevermeltice
Adamant Nature
*Skill Link*
-Avalanche
-Ice Shard
-Brine
-Spike Cannon/Icicle Spear

I know the last 2 moves don't seem like good ideas, but in-game a 5-hit Spike Cannon can do some good damage
 
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arceus03

Well-Known Member
The trouble with the above set is that Cloyser has 3 Ice moves and one Water move. It needs to be more diverse so as not to be completely walled by water Pokemon. And, the nature is Modest yet 3 of the moves are physical.
 

randomn00b

Arcane Trainer
I think GrumpySnorlax meant this:

Cloyster@Scope Lens
Adamant (+Atk, -Sp. Atk)
Trait: Skill Link
EVs: 252 Atk, 240 Def, 16 Speed

Spikes Cannon
Icicle Spear
Leer
Payback

About as good as Skill Link Cloyster will ever be.
 

Excitable Boy

is a metaphor
Give Bronzong:
Psychic
Gyro Ball
Rest
Sleep Talk

And have it hold Leftovers.
 

KingGengar

New Member
i prefer usin many diferent moves on one pokemon.
i'am not wery good at EVs and natures i just say to use one pokemon for all
walls you want: shukle

shukle@leftovers
nature:+def. -att
ev:252 def. 252sp.def. 6 hp
rest
thunder
reflect
light screen

special sweper

porygon-z@wise glasses
nature:+spa. -att.
ev:252 sp. atk. 252 speed 6atk.
psychic
thunder
extrasensory
calm mind

phisical sweeper

hitmonchan@???
nature:+att. -sp. att.
ev: 252 att. 252 speed 6 hp
close combat/cross chop
fire punch
punishment
???

other three at your choice maybe
umbreon/espeon
alakazam
and flygon
 

Rad3n

Banned
shukle@leftovers
nature:+def. -att
ev:252 def. 252sp.def. 6 hp
rest
thunder
reflect
light screen

Ummm huh? Always invest evs in HP first on shuckle. Thunder is useless and Shuckle isn't the best set up for Reflect/light screen.

porygon-z@wise glasses
nature:+spa. -att.
ev:252 sp. atk. 252 speed 6atk.
psychic
thunder
extrasensory
calm mind

Ummm huh? 6hp for a start. Thunder is also useless on porygon-z. As is psychic, extrasensory and calm mind. And wise glasses.

hitmonchan@???
nature:+att. -sp. att.
ev: 252 att. 252 speed 6 hp
close combat/cross chop
fire punch
punishment
???

What again? You replaced his pokemon with hitmonchan? Huh? no comment.

What?
 
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