Winning a League makes one a Master according to the final episode of DP. As much as I hate that saga, I won't pretend it isn't canon.
That's actually untrue. The Japanese version explicitly states that it's only one step towards being a Pokemon Master.
The hell's a Pokemon Master.
Whenever someone asks Ash interrupts them.For all we know to be a Pokémon master you might just need to pass the test in the original series lol
Tuned out as soon as I saw those words. Whatever it has to say is meaningless.
How do you say that you’ll acknowledge a region’s saga as canon despite it not being your cup of tea but then go on to ignore the Japanese dub (the original mind you)?
Hey, don't be rude. That version is actually the one that doesn't go through any changes and lays the ground...that the English version then massacres.
I've been ignoring the JP version for years until PM2019 premiered. PM2019's JP self being good doesn't magically make all the other sagas' JP selves good. So, to me, they're meaningless and not worth regarding as true.
the one that took until last November to stop being an annoying piece of trash.
I ignore a lot of the franchise but I don’t write it off as meaningless if it has importance like the meaning of a PM. I’m not someone who really cares about what form of the show I watch outside of music sometimes like you and other people so I’m not going to compare the differences between the Japanese and English airings.The show is created with the mindset of what was established in previous episodes of the Japanese dub so that’s what I’m going by.
What about in the ice cream version? Or in the sock monkey version? In the milkman version? Or in the pink donut version? Do you discriminate those? Huh! Do ya!
PM2019 literally has Ash state that a pokemon master is "much more" than being the strongest trainer in the world (which, for obvious reasons, is much more than just a champion)
If that's true, then that'd be a retcon (which, to be fair, this show--no, the whole franchise--is no stranger to) of DP's statement.
Agreed.
Do what you want, I'm not stopping you.
To think it all started because I was happy with Ash becoming a Pokemon Master. Or whatever the show's deeming him assuming it already retconned the Master requirements once again.
He certainly became a favorite, there were lots of memes about him being the goodest of bois, also some from SM fanboys about him doing what greninja couldn't.
Furthermore, the series after DP (BW, XY, SM and PM) state that Ash is still aiming to become Pokemon Master, which is proof enough Ash didn't become Pokemon Master in DP. He is still trying to accomplish this goal in the current series. So really, there's not much to discuss here. The dub made a mistake. It happens, not the first nor the last time.
