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Conquistador

Vive la Revolution!
Well, here's my team... again xP. Third time lucky, aye? The two major questions which I really need answering is IP or TP on Metagross and Gilscor or Skarmory (standard Skarmory).

PorygonZ|Modest|Adaptibility @ Choice Scarf
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Tri Attack
- Dark Pulse
EVs: HP: 4/Sp Atk: 252/Spd: 252
Opener. Standard Choice Scarf PorygonZ. Like it because I think it is a good opener w/ Adaptibility and Tri Attack and high speed (outruns a Jolly CB Weavile). Dark Pulse and BoltBeam for type coverage, Skarmory and Dragon counter.

Salamence|Adamant|Indimidate @Leftovers
- Roost
- Earthquake
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Claw
EVs: HP: 160/Atk: 252/Spd: 96
Physical Sweeper. Roost and HP EVs because it will be tanking early in game, and sweeping late game.

Metagross|Adamant|Clear Body @Leftovers
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- Agility
- Thunder Punch/Ice Punch
EVs: HP: 100/Atk: 252/Def: 52/Spd: 104
Partial physical wall and physical attacker. Standard Agiligross with Thunder Punch just in case Skarmory thinks it can wall it. Ice Punch if Gilscor thinks it will wall it. Which one should I have?

Starmie|Modest|Natural Cure @Choice Specs
- Surf
- Thunderbolt
- Grass Knot
- Ice Beam
EVs: Spd: 252/Sp Atk 252/Sp Def: 4
Special sweeper. Like it for its type coverage. Bolt-Beamer sorts out those pesky Dragons and whatnot while Grass Knot KOs Tyranitar. Surf for stab and more type coverage.

Blissey|Bold|Natural Cure @Leftovers
- Ice Beam/Thunder Wave
- Seismic Toss
- Aromatherapy
- Soft-boiled
EVs: HP: 252/Def: 252/Sp Def: 4
Standard Blissey, special wall. Need I really say more? Need advice on whether to have Thunder Wave or Ice Beam.

Gilscor|Impish|Sand Veil @Leftovers
- Earthquake
- Roost
- Aerial Ace
- Stealth Rock
EVs: HP: 252/Atk: 6/Def: 252
Standard set. My main physical wall and Heracross counter. Roost so it can take some extra hits, EQ for stab and Aerial Ace for stabbed 4x Heracross weakness :p


So there it is. Threat list coming soon. Rate away!
 

PsiUmbreon

Well-Known Member
Skarmory still walls Metagross regardless of Thunderpunch, unless the Metagross is Life Orb or CB. I guess that answers your question. You might have some Gyarados issues though, since Gliscor is weak to Waterfall and PorygonZ won't like switching into Gyarados's attacks.

Use this set on Starmie:

Starmie@Leftovers
172 HP, 252 Speed, 84 SA
Timid Nature
-Rapid Spin
-Surf
-Thunderbolt
-Recover

And you will do better against Gyarados. Rapid Spin is always a helpful move, as sometimes people use Spikes or even Toxic Spikes in addition to Stealth Rock.
 
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togekiss bomber

bomb+togekiss=!!!
PorygonZ|TIMID|Adaptibility @ LIFE ORB
- NASTY PLOT
- Ice Beam
- Tri Attack
- Dark Pulse
EVs: HP: 4/Sp Atk: 252/Spd: 252
Opener. Standard Choice Scarf PorygonZ. Like it because I think it is a good opener w/ Adaptibility and Tri Attack and high speed (outruns a Jolly CB Weavile). Dark Pulse and BoltBeam for type coverage, Skarmory and Dragon counter.

Salamence|Adamant|Indimidate @Leftovers
- Roost
- Earthquake
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Claw
EVs: HP: 96/Atk: 252/Spd: 160
Physical Sweeper. Roost and HP EVs because it will be tanking early in game, and sweeping late game.

Metagross|Adamant|Clear Body @Leftovers
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- Agility
- Thunder Punch/Ice Punch
EVs: HP: 100/Atk: 252/Def: 63/Spd: 93
Partial physical wall and physical attacker. Standard Agiligross with Thunder Punch just in case Skarmory thinks it can wall it. Ice Punch if Gilscor thinks it will wall it. Which one should I have?THUNDER PUNCH TO DETER GYARADOS WHICH ALSO SET UP ON THIS SET

Starmie|Modest|Natural Cure @Choice Specs
- Surf
- Thunderbolt
- Grass Knot
- Ice Beam
EVs: Spd: 252/Sp Atk 252/Sp Def: 4
Special sweeper. Like it for its type coverage. Bolt-Beamer sorts out those pesky Dragons and whatnot while Grass Knot KOs Tyranitar. Surf for stab and more type coverage.

Blissey|Bold|Natural Cure @Leftovers
- Ice Beam/Thunder Wave
- Seismic Toss
- Aromatherapy
- Soft-boiled
EVs: HP: 252/Def: 252/Sp Def: 4
Standard Blissey, special wall. Need I really say more? Need advice on whether to have Thunder Wave or Ice Beam.

Gilscor|Impish|Sand Veil @Leftovers
- Earthquake
- Roost
- Aerial Ace
- Stealth Rock
EVs: HP: 252/Atk: 6/Def: 252
Standard set. My main physical wall and Heracross counter. Roost so it can take some extra hits, EQ for stab and Aerial Ace for stabbed 4x Heracross weakness :p

Mostly, just change the PorygonZ around. However, in general a good team. Hope the changes I have made have helped - listen to me on PorygonZ, it needs nasty plot to counter special walls like blissey, and to do that it can't have scarf, but then it loses speed, so it needs timid, but then it loses attack power, so give it life orb. This results in a more powerful, versatile, and overall more threatening Porygon/Uber random thing
 

aipomkong

prophecy fulfilled
listen to me on PorygonZ, it needs nasty plot to counter special walls like blissey

Counter: Is able to switch into a Pokemon taking very little damage and not taking an attack that harms it's potential.


Because switching into a Thunder Wave, or Nasty Plotting while Blissey Thunder Waves you is;

- countering Blissey
- not harming PorygonZ's sweeping potential at all.

Stick with the Scarf Porygon especially if you insist on using Modest Starmie as Scarf Porygon will be the only thing faster then Garchomp.
 

Conquistador

Vive la Revolution!
And I especially need the speed as it's my opener. Plus, as you said I insist on using a slowish Modest Starmie :p The reason I do use Modest is because it's too late to change it :(

Also, I want to have 202 speed on Metagross so I can outrun a CS Heracross (after Agility that is).
 

Imperator_Venit

Well-Known Member
Awesome team, Conquistador. Just don't know if having two 4 X weaknesses is a good idea, especially against ice, unless you have something that has a strong resistance against it.
 
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