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how annoying is it when fans call good dubs bad?

Blackjack Gabbiani

Clearly we're great!
Uncutpokemon, is it even remotely possible for you to get through *one* thread without bringing your hatred of 4Kids into things?
 

MugenKeiji

THERE'S NO $50 HERE!
i'm not bringing it up here, i just saying the truth

Moderation is the key... down mods, down. I meant PERSONAL moderation of one's character.

Of course we know 4Kids is stupid, we just don't need to reiterate it every flipping hour of the day.
 

Asrialys

Well-Known Member
Utawarerumono is going to have a good dub. But people are going to go crazy over Eruruu's (fine by me, by the way) name-change and the "older-sounding" voices of several of the main females. Well, the first episode only has Eruruu and Aruruu present and talking, and Aruruu has very few lines to begin with. So I don't know what everyone else sounds like.
 

Dogasu

Frustrated Elf
The problem with this thread is that dub quality is in the eye of the beholder. So people don't agree with your opinions that the Naruto or the Bleach dub is awesome. So what? At the end of the day, does that really matter? Does it impede your enjoyment of the dub? Or is it just used as a talking point to be used in threads like these that segregate anime fans based on their preference in voice actors?

Stating that the Naruto dub is good as if it was a fact is just as bad as someone stating that the Naruto dub is bad as if it was a fact.
 
Guys even though One Piece sucks when are they showing new episodes?

They only thing that I really hate about One Piece is that they took out 30 episodes and the taking out of the guns and cigarettes. I couldn't care less for the voices or the name changes.

Also if any of you guys got One Piece Grand Adventure did you hear Ohm and Eneru's voice? Eneru sounds like some kind of power mad god, but that is just how he should be. I'm suprised they didn't make Ohm a steriotypical black person. He sounds like he is some kind of honorable savior. There voices are just fine.

They haven't shown episodes in four months! Could god have spoken and 4kids abandoned One Piece! If 4kids doesn't dub One Piece any more that will be the best thing ever! I just hope another company agrees to dub it. Then again this will never happen. New One Piece episodes will never be made.

Since episodes are being cut on Youtube, and there are no uncut DVDs.....I will have to read the manga! I will have to imagine the voices I guess. I want to know what Ms. Goldenweek/April Foolday's voice is in the dub. I imagine it as a serious voice like the english voice of Rukia from Bleach.
 

Chris

Old Coot
The problem with this thread is that dub quality is in the eye of the beholder. So people don't agree with your opinions that the Naruto or the Bleach dub is awesome. So what? At the end of the day, does that really matter? Does it impede your enjoyment of the dub? Or is it just used as a talking point to be used in threads like these that segregate anime fans based on their preference in voice actors?

Stating that the Naruto dub is good as if it was a fact is just as bad as someone stating that the Naruto dub is bad as if it was a fact.
There is a difference, however. Most claims of shows like Naruto or Bleach being "ruined" tend to stem from people following fansubs who don't know an ounce of Japanese. Namely when something mistranslated or missed in translation in a fansub ends up being corrected in the dub. Lord knows how many times people complain about Naruto saying "Believe it" yet seem to ignore the Japanese counterpart always saying "Dattebayo." Or in Bleach's case where Shinigami is translated properly to Soul Reaper, yet people complain as if it was a wrong translation.

Can't also forget how fansubs tend to throw in swears left and right (Kaizoku-Fansubs, I'm looking at you) when the dialogue is actually supposed to be a lot tamer.

Also doesn't help that some shows that are dubbed use the DVD versions, as opposed to the TV versions, thus confusing some fansub followers to assume the dubbers tinkered with the video quality.

GhostMaster27, new episodes will be done when 4Kids finishes dubbing them. They're already planning to go on ahead and skip most of post-Alabasta and Goat Island, while going on to air the Rainbow Mist and Jaya/Skypiea arcs.
 

Ashy Boy

Paul's #1 Rival
Even though I like Transformers Cybertron (Galaxy Force in Japan), I just can't stand Galvatron (in the dub version). I understand that he is an evil character, but the VA who voiced him made him sound too evil in an arrogant way even when he gets killed by Optimus.

I didn't like the dub series finale of Yu-Gi-Oh because the last lines had no emotion at all.
 
Exaclty opinions are subjective and no one is the authority on what is and what is not a good dub as people have different opinons of what is good and what is not.

Like I don't care what Dogasu thinks at all, the first movie dub was good.
 

Hikozaru390

Well-Known Member
Pokemon it really was good no matter what people said.

Yeah, it was pretty good in comparison to some other shows.

But it wasn't good like the Naruto dub. Speaking of,
Naruto and Onepiece... I am not gona say anything. Feel like killing the dubbers. (how the hel can you guys listen to NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-RUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-TOOOOOOOOO)?
Do you mean "Nah-roo-toe" or "Nair-roo-toe"? Because the former is right, while I squeal with hatred at the latter.

And I hate when schoolmates tell me, for a fact, that it is pronounced Nair-roo-toe, and I should go jump in a lake and stop calling myself a Narutotaku (like they even know what an otaku is)

The Naruto dub was handled pretty well. For season 3, we got the whole second japanese opening song intact, and throught the whole thing, they kept as much japanese text as they could (some things had to be changed because they were part of the story, such as Anko's tarp at the end of the first chunin exam.) I don't know about the lines being changed or not, but the majority of the blood was left in too.



What the...the First Movie dub was absolute CRAP. http://dogasu.bulbagarden.net/comparisons/movies_specials/mov01.html

Most of that isn't Dogasu's opinion, but actual changes made to the movie.
 
Like I don't care what Dogasu thinks at all, the first movie dub was good.

no it wasn't! it may be opinion but fact is that first movie was pure BS, i bet next your gonna tell me that chronicles was a great dub! and actualy this is just my opinion and all but i think as far as the pokemon dub in general, that it realy dosen't fall under the catagory of a good dub or a bad dub! mostly because of the fact that some parts are quite good, and other parts are so bad that the One Piece dub quivers in fear! basicly as far as the parts of it go i would say that up until the point in joto were they started changing music left to right that part was good, however the movies up until movie 4 were they started using the origonal music was crap! stsrting with the point were they started changing music in joto an movie 4 and up, the movies started getting better while the episodes started getting worse, then once advanced generation started, that was when 4kids realy started treating it like the rest of their crap, while the movies were doing great! as for chronicles, i would say what i think about it but it would probily get me kicked off forums for too many swear words! whike as the new battle frontier dub (the non 4kids one) is doing a pretty good job, not perfect but ok. so as you can see pokemon as a whole is a little of each!

personaly as far as dubs go i think that when it comes to them good or not that these four things would be a good guidline as to it being good or not.

1. does it have decent (dosen't have to be perfect) voices? that you can put up with hearing
2. is all the BGM kept?
3. is the company in any way planing to give us uncut bilingual DVDs?
4. is it free of lame dialoge? and somewhat accuratly translated

of cource theres more thing to judge it on but those are some basic things to look at, so if the anime has all four of these traits then it's a good dub, and if it has zero then it's a bad one! these four things seem reasonable right?
 

Hikozaru390

Well-Known Member
1. does it have decent (dosen't have to be perfect) voices? that you can put up with hearing
2. is all the BGM kept?
3. is the company in any way planing to give us uncut bilingual DVDs?
4. is it free of lame dialoge? and somewhat accuratly translated

1. I agree.
2. Meh, in DBZ not a lot of the BGM is kept, but I still liked the BGM.
3. What does this have to do with the quality of the dub?
4. What is dialoge? If you mean DIALOGUE, then yes. And it should be more than "somewhat" accurately.
 
no it wasn't! it may be opinion but fact is that first movie was pure BS, i bet next your gonna tell me that chronicles was a great dub! and actualy this is just my opinion and all but i think as far as the pokemon dub in general, that it realy dosen't fall under the catagory of a good dub or a bad dub! mostly because of the fact that some parts are quite good, and other parts are so bad that the One Piece dub quivers in fear! basicly as far as the parts of it go i would say that up until the point in joto were they started changing music left to right that part was good, however the movies up until movie 4 were they started using the origonal music was crap! stsrting with the point were they started changing music in joto an movie 4 and up, the movies started getting better while the episodes started getting worse, then once advanced generation started, that was when 4kids realy started treating it like the rest of their crap, while the movies were doing great! as for chronicles, i would say what i think about it but it would probily get me kicked off forums for too many swear words! whike as the new battle frontier dub (the non 4kids one) is doing a pretty good job, not perfect but ok. so as you can see pokemon as a whole is a little of each!

personaly as far as dubs go i think that when it comes to them good or not that these four things would be a good guidline as to it being good or not.

1. does it have decent (dosen't have to be perfect) voices? that you can put up with hearing
2. is all the BGM kept?
3. is the company in any way planing to give us uncut bilingual DVDs?
4. is it free of lame dialoge? and somewhat accuratly translated

of cource theres more thing to judge it on but those are some basic things to look at, so if the anime has all four of these traits then it's a good dub, and if it has zero then it's a bad one! these four things seem reasonable right?

I'm not reading that crap. The first movie was good, I enjoyed it as an 11 year old when I saw it in the movies. It accomplished the goal of entertaining a child.
 

Rhea

Ruby & Gold fangirl~
But it wasn't good like the Naruto dub. Speaking of, Do you mean "Nah-roo-toe" or "Nair-roo-toe"? Because the former is right,

Actually, it's more like "Naru-toe".
The 'Nah' and 'Ru' are more together.
Same with "Shikamaru"
It's not "Shee-kaah-maa-ruu"
It's "Sheeka-maaru", more or less.
The American isn't that good at pronoucing the names.
Atleast they dosnt say "Sas-oo-kay".
Like my best friends dad.

I don't even like Naruto, anymore.
It got WAY to popular, WAY to fast.
 

Chris

Old Coot
I'm not reading that crap. The first movie was good, I enjoyed it as an 11 year old when I saw it in the movies. It accomplished the goal of entertaining a child.
Just because it entertained a child doesn't automatically make it good.

Teletubbies do absolutely nothing but dance around halfwittingly, yet they entertain children and stoners around the nation. >_>

Remember, what one person may not enjoy is something someone can. Doesn't automatically make it good or bad, though.

..Unless you're playing Superman 64. Then that's all around bad.
 

Remember, what one person may not enjoy is something someone can. Doesn't automatically make it good or bad, though.

..Unless you're playing Superman 64. Then that's all around bad.

Agreed on both point.
 

Sachiko

...is gone. =(
have you ever gone to a thread/forum about an anime that had just been dubbed to find that fans complain about how horrible the dub is? i'm not talking about dubs like One Piece were the music was changed and was treated horribly, i'm talking more about dubs that were decent, had minimul editing, kept all the music, free of name changes, and even had pretty cloce to accurate dialoge! yet despite how true to the origonal the dub was, fans complain about it anyway!!! saying stuff like "they pernounced this charactors name wrong" or "they dumbed down the dialoge so that kids could understand" or "the voices were awful" even when the names were pronounced correctly, the dialoge was not dumbed down, and the voices actualy sounded cloce to the origonals! well here's a place to talk about how annoying those fans are! oh and the fact that when the company does chose to releace uncut bilingual DVDs fans chose not to buy them!

You're right. It is annoying. They complain about things that I think are fine, especially voices.
 
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