A lot of users do not know what a counter is. This saddens me quite a bit. Therefore, since Garchomp is a pokemon a lot of people have problems countering, I have made this thread to help come up with some. Trust me, the number of successful counters will be slim, but with all the smart users on Serebii we can come up with some.
A COUNTER MUST BE ABLE TO SWITCH IN AND POSE A DIRECT THREAT TO THE POKEMON BEING "COUNTERED" WITH LITTLE RISK TO ITSELF.
Examples of poor counters:
-Skarmory is not a counter, because it cannot pose a threat to Garchomp.
-Weavile and Froslass are not counters, because they cannot risk a switch-in.
Smogon University has decided to ban Garchomp to ubers until further notice. When Platinum has come out and the metagame has changed it will be tested again. When it was allowed in OU, Garchomp's usage got as high as being on 65% of teams, so it was "overcentralizing". Because of his new "Uber" Status I have removed all of the non viable Uber sets for him.
Garchomp @ Yache Berry
252 Atk, 252 Spe, 6 HP
ADAMANT NATURE
Outrage
Earthquake
Fire Fang
Swords Dance
Yache Berry makes it impossible to OHKO with Ice Beam, unless backed by STAB and an impressive Special Attack stat. This lowers the amount of potential counters to pretty much nothing, because Garchomp can swords dance without fear. Whoever comes in will have to eat a hit from 788 Attack, twice, before it gets a shot at KOing Garchomp. If you miss either of your Ice Beams, Garchomp can continue it's rampage.
Fairly destructive in Ubers thanks to his respectable Speed stat putting him ahead of all pokemon except for Deoxys, Mewtwo, Darkrai and the Latis. With STAB on the most destructive attacking type in the Ubers metagame, Garchomp has no trouble ripping through teams with Outrage. Surprisingly, most teams only have one pokemon faster than Garchomp so if it can be removed it's pretty easy to sweep.
Lugia with a lot of Speed EVs and Reflect can counter SD Yache Chomp. In fact, it is the only true Garchomp counter in the game, being able to switch in, set up a Reflect, and alternate Roost and Ice Beam until Garchomp is killed.
CB chomp. Literally 2HKOs every pokemon in the game, without setting up.
Garchomp @ Choice Band
16 HP, 252 Atk, 240 Spe
Dragon Claw
Outrage
Earthquake
Fire Fang
Dragon Claw helps pummel your counters early on without leaving you open to Weavile and Mamoswine after. Earthquake and Fire Fang kill steels. Outrage is for later game clean up. Garchomp will likely not use this move unless it knows your entire team. Choice Banded Outrage easily 2HKOs the entire Ubers metagame. Even Lugia is 2HKOed, and actually takes enough damage that it cannot safely set up a Reflect when it switches in.
I would sort of like this thread to die, because there was little to no intelligent discussion at all. Even though I clearly stated in the original post, some users went "tl;dr" and posted crap like "porygon-Z counters chomp". I expected better out of you people. All the information you need is at your fingertips around Serebii.net yet only a couple posters actually did any research, finding out stuff like you need 530 SpA to OHKO Yache Chomp with Ice Beam, and that Cressilia is easily 2HKOed by Swords Danced or Choice Banded Outrage. This is pitiful. The intelligence of this website has gone down so far so quickly. 80% of the people who posted here should be ashamed of themselves.
A COUNTER MUST BE ABLE TO SWITCH IN AND POSE A DIRECT THREAT TO THE POKEMON BEING "COUNTERED" WITH LITTLE RISK TO ITSELF.
Examples of poor counters:
-Skarmory is not a counter, because it cannot pose a threat to Garchomp.
-Weavile and Froslass are not counters, because they cannot risk a switch-in.
Smogon University has decided to ban Garchomp to ubers until further notice. When Platinum has come out and the metagame has changed it will be tested again. When it was allowed in OU, Garchomp's usage got as high as being on 65% of teams, so it was "overcentralizing". Because of his new "Uber" Status I have removed all of the non viable Uber sets for him.
Garchomp @ Yache Berry
252 Atk, 252 Spe, 6 HP
ADAMANT NATURE
Outrage
Earthquake
Fire Fang
Swords Dance
Yache Berry makes it impossible to OHKO with Ice Beam, unless backed by STAB and an impressive Special Attack stat. This lowers the amount of potential counters to pretty much nothing, because Garchomp can swords dance without fear. Whoever comes in will have to eat a hit from 788 Attack, twice, before it gets a shot at KOing Garchomp. If you miss either of your Ice Beams, Garchomp can continue it's rampage.
Fairly destructive in Ubers thanks to his respectable Speed stat putting him ahead of all pokemon except for Deoxys, Mewtwo, Darkrai and the Latis. With STAB on the most destructive attacking type in the Ubers metagame, Garchomp has no trouble ripping through teams with Outrage. Surprisingly, most teams only have one pokemon faster than Garchomp so if it can be removed it's pretty easy to sweep.
Lugia with a lot of Speed EVs and Reflect can counter SD Yache Chomp. In fact, it is the only true Garchomp counter in the game, being able to switch in, set up a Reflect, and alternate Roost and Ice Beam until Garchomp is killed.
CB chomp. Literally 2HKOs every pokemon in the game, without setting up.
Garchomp @ Choice Band
16 HP, 252 Atk, 240 Spe
Dragon Claw
Outrage
Earthquake
Fire Fang
Dragon Claw helps pummel your counters early on without leaving you open to Weavile and Mamoswine after. Earthquake and Fire Fang kill steels. Outrage is for later game clean up. Garchomp will likely not use this move unless it knows your entire team. Choice Banded Outrage easily 2HKOs the entire Ubers metagame. Even Lugia is 2HKOed, and actually takes enough damage that it cannot safely set up a Reflect when it switches in.
I would sort of like this thread to die, because there was little to no intelligent discussion at all. Even though I clearly stated in the original post, some users went "tl;dr" and posted crap like "porygon-Z counters chomp". I expected better out of you people. All the information you need is at your fingertips around Serebii.net yet only a couple posters actually did any research, finding out stuff like you need 530 SpA to OHKO Yache Chomp with Ice Beam, and that Cressilia is easily 2HKOed by Swords Danced or Choice Banded Outrage. This is pitiful. The intelligence of this website has gone down so far so quickly. 80% of the people who posted here should be ashamed of themselves.
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